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"Official" F1 Predictions & Gossip 2017

Positions after the Brazil GP, race 19 of 20 for 2017, 12th November 2017

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1 MasterYoda 874 19 46
2 SwampThing 871 19 45.84210526
3 Scrumpy 831 19 43.73684211
4 mexicaneagle 799 19 42.05263158
5 EddieEdwards 790 19 41.57894737
5 little al 790 18 43.88888889
7 CT_Palace 783 19 41.21052632
8 Bintang 782 19 41.15789474
9 Biggus Mickus 776 19 40.84210526
10 Percy Dalton 751 19 39.52631579
11 Richard 746 19 39.26315789
11 zaph_01 746 18 41.44444444
13 spunky 741 18 41.16666667
14 davech 724 19 38.10526316
15 Mitch Mickus 719 19 37.84210526
16 Maidstoned Eagle 717 19 37.73684211
MASSIV 714
17 RednBlue 702 19 36.94736842
18 eagles073 687 19 36.15789474
19 Hibernator 680 19 35.78947368
20 Eaglesfan1 663 17 39
21 Latvian Eagle 652 19 34.31578947
22 Mike Douglas 649 19 34.15789474
23 Newts G 635 16 39.6875
24 grand aigle 624 18 34.66666667
25 Ridcully 620 18 34.44444444
26 meee 612 19 32.21052632
27 charltonhater 609 17 35.82352941
28 Icy 572 19 30.10526316
29 Bones14 568 16 35.5
30 danpalace07 379 12 31.58333333
31 Quipton 221 7 31.57142857
32 Eagle's Nest 151 4 37.75
33 Excowboy 145 3 48.33333333
34 foresthillbilly 37 1 37
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The Rules :

Only 3 months to go now so time to dust off the spreadsheet, convene the stewards meetings and decide on the Rules and Regulations for 2017.
If any one would like to suggest any changes feel free, but this thread is not democratic and the power hungry despot in charge will as per F1 make his own mind up.


2017 GP Drivers and Teams :
Blue colour indicates a confirmed 2017 contract
Green indicates a confirmed/current Reserve/Test Driver for the team
Magenta indicates we don't know if they will be taking part.


Red Bull Racing - Engine TAG Heuer badged Renault
3. Daniel Ricciardo - Red Bull Racing
33. Max Verstappen - Red Bull Racing

Pierre Gasly


McLaren - Engine Honda
14. Fernando Alonso - McLaren Honda
47. Stoffel Vandoorne - McLaren Honda

22. Jensen Button


Scuderia Ferrari
5. Sebastian Vettel - Scuderia Ferrari
7. Kimi Raikkonen - Scuderia Ferrari

Antonio Giovinazzi


Mercedes Grand Prix
44. Lewis Hamilton - Mercedes Grand Prix
77. Valtteri Bottas - Mercedes Grand Prix



Renault
27. Nico Hulkenberg - Team Renault
30. Jolyon Palmer - Team Renault



Williams - Engine Mercedes
19. Felipe Massa - Williams-Mercedes
18. Lance Stroll - Williams-Mercedes



Force India - Engine Mercedes
11. Sergio Perez - Force India F1 Team-Mercedes
31. Esteban Ocon - Force India F1 Team-Mercedes



BMW Sauber - Engine Ferrari (2016 Specification)
9. Marcus Ericsson - BMW Sauber-Ferrari
94. Pascal Wehrlein - BMW Sauber-Ferrari
36. Antonio Giovinazzi - BMW Sauber-Ferrari


Scuderia Toro Rosso - Engine Renault
55. Caros Sainz - Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari
26. Daniil Kvyat - Scuderia Toro Rosso-Ferrari

Pierre Gasly


HAAS- Engine Ferrari
8. Roman Grosjean - HAAS
20. Kevin Magnusson - HAAS



Schedule :

1 26th March Australian Grand Prix Melbourne
2 09th April Chinese Grand Prix Shanghai International Circuit
2 16th April Bahrain Grand Prix Sakhir (Live on Channel 4)
4 30th April Russian Grand Prix Sochi (Live on Channel 4)
5 14th May Spanish Grand Prix Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona
6 28th May Monaco Grand Prix Monte-Carlo (Live on Channel 4)
7 11th June Canadian Grand Prix Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal
8 25th June Azerbaijan Grand Prix Baku (Live on Channel 4)
9 9th July Austria Grand Prix Red Bull Ring, Spielburg
10 16th July British Grand Prix Silverstone (Live on Channel 4)
11 30th July Hungarian Grand Prix Hungaroring
12 27th August Belgian Grand Prix Spa-Francorchamps (Live on Channel 4)
13 3rd September Italian Grand Prix Monza
14 17th September Singapore Grand Prix Singapore (Live on Channel 4)
15 1st October Malaysian Grand Prix Sepang International Circuit (Live on Channel 4)
16 8th October Japanese Grand Prix Suzuka
17 22rd October United States Grand Prix Austin
18 29th October Mexico Grand Prix Mexico City (Live on Channel 4)
19 12th November Brazilian Grand Prix Interlagos
20 26th November Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Yas Island (Live on Channel 4)

Rules as follows :

First five places to pick

Win 25 pts
2nd 18 pts
3rd 15 pts
4th 12 pts
5th 10 pts

Correctly predicting driver in top 5, but not in correct position 2 pts.

Pole 10 pts
Fastest lap 10 pts

5 Bonus points to be awarded if prediction is made before first practice for the race, times as per BBS clock and official practice start times.

Therefore, maximum points for a race week are now

(25+18+15+12+10+10+5+5 = 100 Points)

Predictions are fixed at qualifying, no changes permitted afterwards although late entries will be accepted with a 10 point deduction for predictions after the start of the qualifying session.

Predictions are welcome by PM, please PM Mike Douglas and I will post them on the thread before the race if this option is used.

Note : Timings are taken as per post or edit times if post is changed.
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From the BBC:

Manor Racing have gone into administration and will collapse without new investment.

Staff were informed of the development on Friday by chief executive officer Thomas Mayer, a source told BBC Sport. Administrators FRP said there was "a very limited window of opportunity" to save the team before the start of the 2017 season in Australia on 26 March. FRP said it was "assessing options" and that the process affected Manor's operating company Just Racing Services. Manor Grand Prix Racing, which owns the rights to the team's participation in F1, is not in administration.
Team owner Stephen Fitzpatrick said in a note to staff: "It was imperative that the team finish in 10th place or better in 2016." Manor, who finished 11th and last in the championship last season, have been in talks with new investors but so far no deal has been concluded.
Administrator Geoff Rowley said: "The team has made significant progress since the start of 2015, but the position remains that operating a F1 team requires significant ongoing investment. The senior management team has worked tirelessly to bring new investment, but regrettably has been unable to do so within the time available. Therefore, they have been left with no alternative but to place [Manor Racing] into administration."

A source said several buyers had been lined up over the past few weeks and two had gone as far as conducting a due diligence process. But none of them provided the funds necessary to buy the team, nor was there any proof they had the money to run it.
Fitzpatrick, the boss of the energy company Ovo, decided to put the team into administration on Thursday night.
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From the BBC quoting ITV News:

The future of the British Grand Prix at Silverstone could be under threat because of the "potentially ruinous risk" of staging the loss-making race. Circuit owner the British Racing Drivers' Club (BRDC) is considering giving notice to exercise a contract-break clause at the end of 2019.

A letter written by BRDC chairman John Grant - seen by ITV News - says a decision will be made by "mid-year". The BRDC's contract with Formula 1 runs until 2026. Silverstone first hosted the British Grand Prix in 1950 and has been the event's permanent home since 1987. Formula 1 chief Bernie Ecclestone told ITV News: "If they want to activate a break clause, there is nothing we can do. Two other tracks have contacted us and we are keen to keep a British Grand Prix, there is no doubt about it, we want to have one."

Three-time world champion Sir Jackie Stewart added: "I think it's a credible threat, not impossible for it to happen. I would be very sad if it did. There's no other race track that would be able to host the British Grand Prix."
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Manor in trouble again. I think maybe now is the time to call it a day.
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From the BBC:

Frederic Vasseur has left his position as boss of Renault's Formula 1 team after a single season. A Renault statement said the decision to part company was "agreed by mutual consent" and was effective immediately. The moves comes after months of claims by sources of a difficult relationship between Vasseur and Renault Sport managing director Cyril Abiteboul. But the statement added that Renault and Vasseur expected to work together again in "a new form in the future". Renault added that the team would continue to be managed by president Jerome Stoll and Abiteboul.

Renault have undertaken a restructure in recent weeks after a difficult first season back as a team owner in 2016 when they finished ninth in the constructors' championship. Rob White, the long-time boss of Renault's F1 engine division close to Paris, was moved before Christmas to a new role as chief operating officer of the UK-based chassis part of the team in Enstone, Oxfordshire. Renault are undertaking an expansion programme aimed at increasing staff numbers from a little over 400 when they were in their previous guise as Lotus to more than 600 by the end of this year.

Vasseur, who also runs the ART GP2 team, had formed good relationships with the senior staff at Enstone. But his departure is likely to have little effect on the day-today running of the team under chief technical officer Bob Bell, technical director Nick Chester, sporting director Alan Permane and chief race engineer Ciaron Pilbeam, who joined this winter from McLaren.
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More from the BBC:

Paddy Lowe has left his position as technical boss of Mercedes. The 54-year-old, who led the team to three drivers' and constructors' championship doubles in a row from 2014 to 2016, is expected to join Williams. He will be replaced by former Ferrari technical director James Allison, whose deal was signed some months ago, sources say, but is not yet confirmed.

Lowe is set to take on a role heading the technical side of the entire Williams group, including the F1 team. He is also expected to head up the burgeoning Williams Advanced Technologies business. However, sources say a final agreement between Lowe and Williams has not yet been reached.
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I am sure Bottas has goes to Mercedes? And Massa back at Williams?
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Why Massa?

Two younger drivers now with the new car, is good for a years time. They now have Paddy to overlook.
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My prediction ;

2017 will be as dull and boring as 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012 etc etc
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Stroll has a contract but of course that doesn't mean that Massa will not return.
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As suggested by Latvian and rumoured since December, we now have confirmation of the Mercedes/Williams/Sauber drivers (This from BBC):

Valtteri Bottas has succeeded world champion Nico Rosberg as Lewis Hamilton's team-mate at Mercedes. The move, expected since December, also sees Brazilian Felipe Massa come out of retirement to replace the 27-year-old Finn at Williams.
Mercedes' young driver Pascal Wehrlein, passed over in favour of Bottas, joins the Swiss Sauber team.
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Interesting article covering potential changes in F1 and the possible demise of Ecclestone (I know, we've been there before)

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I always come up with an idea for a rule change that never gets implemented. Bit of fun - predict the last finisher (or to be more accurate the last car not classed as DNF).

Having come second in 2016 I can't be arsed with proposing the increased points for being one place out rule for the 42nd* year running.

*possibly not that many.
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Old 24-01-2017, 02:24 AM
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Cor blimey he's finally gone:

Bernie Ecclestone has been removed from his position running Formula 1 as US giant Liberty Media completes its $8bn (6.4bn) takeover of the sport. Ecclestone, 86, who has been in charge for nearly 40 years, has been appointed chairman emeritus and will act as an adviser to the board. Chase Carey has had Ecclestone's former role of chief executive officer added to his existing position of chairman.

Liberty has also brought ex-Mercedes team boss Ross Brawn back to F1. The former Ferrari technical director, who had been acting as a consultant to Liberty, has been appointed to lead the sporting and technical side of F1.
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I always come up with an idea for a rule change that never gets implemented. Bit of fun - predict the last finisher (or to be more accurate the last car not classed as DNF).

Having come second in 2016 I can't be arsed with proposing the increased points for being one place out rule for the 42nd* year running.

*possibly not that many.
Oh go on. It's the highlight of my year ignoring it.
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Cor blimey he's finally gone:

Bernie Ecclestone has been removed from his position running Formula 1 as US giant Liberty Media completes its $8bn (6.4bn) takeover of the sport. Ecclestone, 86, who has been in charge for nearly 40 years, has been appointed chairman emeritus and will act as an adviser to the board. Chase Carey has had Ecclestone's former role of chief executive officer added to his existing position of chairman.

Liberty has also brought ex-Mercedes team boss Ross Brawn back to F1. The former Ferrari technical director, who had been acting as a consultant to Liberty, has been appointed to lead the sporting and technical side of F1.
I hope this is good news for F1 mike.
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