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Old 09-02-2019, 07:47 PM
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If you have a big bloke up front who is widely regarded as one of the best headers in the league, you have to cross balls for him to try and head. If he plays, try and set the team up to play to his strengths.
Must say totally agree Zaha and Townsend seem to have forgotten how to whip in a centre forwards type cross
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Old 09-02-2019, 07:50 PM
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There's nothing wrong with Benteke, its the tactics. He scored for Allardyce and Pardew he only stopped scoring when Royboy arrived.

He can do one thing only and that's head the ball he needs high crosses and he's not getting them.
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There's nothing wrong with Benteke, its the tactics. He scored for Allardyce and Pardew he only stopped scoring when Royboy arrived.
He stands still and waits for the ball,its easy for defenders. Batshuayi moved and pulled the defence all over the placecreating space for others as well as himself. The difference was massive same tactics.
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There's nothing wrong with Benteke, its the tactics. He scored for Allardyce and Pardew he only stopped scoring when Royboy arrived.
He stands still and waits for the ball,its easy for defenders. Batshuayi moved and pulled the defence all over the place creating space for others as well as himself. The difference was massive same tactics.
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There's nothing wrong with Benteke, its the tactics. He scored for Allardyce and Pardew he only stopped scoring when Royboy arrived.

He can do one thing only and that's head the ball he needs high crosses and he's not getting them.
Not true..it maybe what the current management thinks, and so we play in a very constrained way...but we could try getting in some early diagonal balls that he can run onto. Countless times in the first half he set himself up for an early ball over the top, but just never got it. Instead we always seem to want to get to about 3 yards from the goal line before any sort of cross comes. That means we're try to get the ball past several defenders and in the air rather than a decent ball he can take on the ground.

I am not necessarily his biggest fan, but he, Ayew and certainly Gayle (way back) have suffered from the lack of decent service time and again, of the sort that Jamie Vardy used to get at Leicester.

He looked so much better last week with Ayew as his foil
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There's nothing wrong with Benteke, its the tactics. He scored for Allardyce and Pardew he only stopped scoring when Royboy arrived.

He can do one thing only and that's head the ball he needs high crosses and he's not getting them.
So your opening statement "There's nothing wrong with Benteke "
And then you go on to say " he can do 1 thing only and that's head the ball "
So surely if he can't even kick the ball there must be something wrong with Benteke.
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:19 PM
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So your opening statement "There's nothing wrong with Benteke "
And then you go on to say " he can do 1 thing only and that's head the ball "
So surely if he can't even kick the ball there must be something wrong with Benteke.
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His wages have nothing to do with it. We definitely don't play to his strengths!!! The odd thing is when Bats came on we lofted a couple of crosses that would have been perfect for Big Ben but Bats didn't even jump for!
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Old 09-02-2019, 09:24 PM
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maybe the players have zero confidence in benteke
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I'm not suggesting Benteke is perfect but to me the problem is deeper than that. Can't help but feel the issue is the midfield and as much as the three who played today worked hard there is a lack of quality. Don't think it is a coincidence that we looked far more effective at the end of last season with a bit of creativity in the midfield. Also true once Meyer came on today.
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I thought he has looked much better since his return and it's only a matter of time before he scores

Comparing him to a Chelsea loanee isn't helpful for many reasons, not least cos they are very different players.. how many headers and how much link up play was Michy involved in?
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He stands still and waits for the ball,its easy for defenders. Batshuayi moved and pulled the defence all over the placecreating space for others as well as himself. The difference was massive same tactics.
Saying all that, Batshuayi missed a sitter.
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For me, Benteke needs someone else close to him. He will be most effective in a 442. He can hold the ball up and bring others in to play but no one was close enough to him for that to happen today.

Michy's movement really improved us and allowed us to get the best out of Max's passing ability.
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He was really poor. Sorry. I really wanted a resurgence but it wasn't there. Same clogging, lack of awareness, inability to read the ball and the play, at times not even jumping or challenging for the ball. He cost us the game.
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For me, Benteke needs someone else close to him. He will be most effective in a 442. He can hold the ball up and bring others in to play but no one was close enough to him for that to happen today.

Michy's movement really improved us and allowed us to get the best out of Max's passing ability.
This in a nutshell. Good post.
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Is this a joke? I must be going insane, I didn't actually think he was that bad today. He won flick ons, he held the ball up, he was unlucky with his effort. Seeing as the people around me were dissapointed he was taken off I surely can't have been the only one?
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He wasn’t that bad. Most people know **** all. It looked better with Michy on but you have to take into account we had already put the tossers well on to the back foot.
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Within the first 5 minutes he failed to help McArthur who found himself bursting forwards with no options and no support on the break. He just needed to come in, but he was oblivious. It set the tone for his match.

When the ball was whipped in from the right in front of the spammers it was a classic opportunity to slide in at the far post behind the defence and bundle the ball over the line. But he was nowhere to be seen.
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