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Old 10-03-2015, 11:44 AM
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I have a G Watch R - have had it for a few months now. I needed a watch and do love a gadget so went for it. It does some cool stuff but it is a watch for me first and foremost. The iWatch I feel is just too pricey. Mine was over £200 and that did nearly put me off but that is pretty much the price of a standard watch so that's how I talked myself into it.
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Ugly as sin. The modern day equivalent of those Casio calculator watches of yesteryear. Surely producing something aesthetically pleasing should have been high up the list of requirements for any watch designer, "Smartwatch" or not...
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A watch is a fashion item for me, and none of these smart watches have even come close to making me want to replace my watches.

Apple has stopped innovating... I keep thinking their success can only last so long, but considering so many people have bought into their 'ecosystem' it is hard now to escape their grasp.

Thought the new MacBook was good for weight and the new USB type C (although only one port?!). BUT the price of the MacBook is an absolute joke... (whilst I appreciate their hardware - I would never consider using Apple's software anyway)
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The battery life stats are also quite misleading.

You get 3 hours if you use it for phone calls, for example.
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This watch has made me think the same.

Other companies have beaten them to it - Apple will probably end up taking them to court even though they are a year behind everyone. They spend more on legal costs than they do on R&D and it shows now. They have run out of ideas.
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Saw on CNN last night that the base price is $349 and typically the UK price being £299. Can't see them selling the 20 million units Apple predict by the end of the tear.
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I'm not sure what the iWatch offers that the Android Wear watches don't to be honest. Apart from the ecosystem. Mine needs to be paired with a phone and connected at all times and gives all the notifications, navigation, remote camera operation, and all the fitness tracking gubbins like heart rate monitor. The iWatch seems to have built in GPS but why if it needs to be paired with a phone that also has GPS, surely that's just a battery drain and as we know anything less than a day is unusable.
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And that is the company spin on battery life... what will the reality be?

I have heard you get around 5 hours from quite heavy use of the watch... which kind of makes it pointless.

It is still a problem with phones in terms of battery life. We all accept charging every night when not that long ago, we used to only charge our mobile phones once a week - but obviously they do a lot more now so that is the trade off.

However, will people accept also charging their watch when their phone does everything it can do and a standard watch is able to tell the time for 24 hours a day...
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Other companies have beaten them to it - Apple will probably end up taking them to court even though they are a year behind everyone. They spend more on legal costs than they do on R&D and it shows now. They have run out of ideas.
I was saying Apple was on the decline over twelve months ago and then this happened this year, so what do I know?!
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From what I can gather, quite a few Apple users seem tied to buying Apple now having bought into their ecosystem of iTunes and apps and feel they can't change now. It is the main reason why I can't stand Apple - it is a backwards step producing software that can only be used on a device produced by a single company. We should be way past that kind of development by now - it is dated way of thinking and developing.
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My first thought when seeing it was, "How the **** would I be able to see/read anything on the screen?"

As someone that can't go anywhere without his reading glasses, I'm at about my limit without glasses reading an iPhone.
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- Agree that battery remains a critical constraint. Surprised this hasn't been nailed by now.
- nothing obviously exciting about this which is disappointing after all of this time
- Power of brand is that Apple have world attention and yet Sony are on version 3 having had one for years. Probably will be credited with inventing the phone. Weird but powerful.
- despite this the Apple halo is slipping but the business will be sustained due to China
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- nothing Apple has ever launched has worked well until at least version 3 or later.
- ooh and they invented white apparently.

Sadly a poor showing by Apple may kill the 'smart-watch' market despite the momentum created by Pebble, Sony and the fitness firms. I do think the health monitoring will survive this though and the smart fitness bands will tell the time.
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Just noticed the iWatch feature that could be used to open your hotel room. It's not stupid altogether is it but surely this isn't one of the first things you would mention to promote it. It has to be things that make sense for you to buy an iWatch. You are unlikely to go to your room without your phone though and so its surely missing the mark. Would I think - oooh I will buy one now - don't think so.

I do think the health monitoring of the smart wearables is one that will win through. I do sense a growing concern re health from the fit who love to measure it to feel good through to those that fear they should monitor because they aren't so fit. That plus the text/email/notifications on your wrist instead of taking out your phone seem to be the key. I don't think Apple have nailed the health ones and from a design perspective it is definitely in the MEH category. They will sell a load on day one because they do but it will be interesting to see what else sells in the following months.

Apple's only other remaining card is that historically it has made integration of experience seamless. If they can stretch apps out into the watch usefully then cool but I suspect this wrests more on the developer than them and not sure what their incentive is really. Let's see what happens. There is one more card and that is a bottomless pit of marketing spend that could see us pounded to death until we buy one but that won't drive up usage and repurchases.
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I ended up getting a Moto 360 watch as a birthday present.

I like it. I like how it's integrated with Google Now, voice integration and it's gradually getting more support from apps, too. It also looks smart
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