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Old 20-03-2017, 05:03 PM
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Old 20-03-2017, 05:10 PM
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Why worry about Hull when Palace hold all the aces and can decide their own fate with 6 more points out of 30 likely to be enough to relegate them.

6 more points from Palace in 10 games leaves Hull needing 11 points from 9 games.

With Hull's awful away record this leaves them having to win 4 home games out of 5 against West Ham,Boro,Watford,Sunderland and Spurs

Hull's away games are far from easy Man City,Stoke,Southampton and Palace.

Hull have only won 5 home games out of 14 played so far but now have to win 4 of their last 5.

Can you really see Palace not getting more than 6 points which makes Hull's task even harder.

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Why worry about Hull when Palace hold all the aces and can decide their own fate with 6 more points out of 30 likely to be enough to relegate them.

6 more points from Palace in 10 games leaves Hull needing 11 points from 9 games.

With Hull's awful away record this leaves them having to win 4 home games out of 5 against West Ham,Boro,Watford,Sunderland and Spurs

Hull's away games are far from easy Man City,Stoke,Southampton and Palace.

Hull have only won 5 home games out of 14 played so far but now have to win 4 of their last 5.

Can you really see Palace not getting more than 6 points which makes Hull's task even harder.

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Old 20-03-2017, 07:12 PM
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Why worry about Hull when Palace hold all the aces and can decide their own fate with 6 more points out of 30 likely to be enough to relegate them.

6 more points from Palace in 10 games leaves Hull needing 11 points from 9 games.

With Hull's awful away record this leaves them having to win 4 home games out of 5 against West Ham,Boro,Watford,Sunderland and Spurs

Hull's away games are far from easy Man City,Stoke,Southampton and Palace.

Hull have only won 5 home games out of 14 played so far but now have to win 4 of their last 5.

Can you really see Palace not getting more than 6 points which makes Hull's task even harder.

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Old 20-03-2017, 07:19 PM
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I think the reality is however that this tighter harder to beat palace is more likely to pick up the odd shock draw (possibly even win) as opposed to the version we saw earlier in the season that would have mustered plenty of shots on goal but lost badly.
You may well be right. 40 years of supporting Palace has, however, taught me to have low expectations - anything more is a wonderful surprise
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Old 20-03-2017, 07:40 PM
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You're right but of course I don't expect the players of Spurs, Arsenal, City, Man Utd, Liverpool or Chelsea will be as worried by these facts - or that we didn't muster a shot on target at home to Watford.

That's what makes this thread (and football in general) so infuriatingly addictive - the same facts & figures that can be used to show we are categorically staying up can also be used to prove without doubt that we are doomed.

We just need to keep hoping that we can pick up some surprise points and that the others don't. Bloody Palace, they'll be the death of me.
We didn't have one on target but we had shots.. cabayes effort was close.. wilf had a volley blocked which probably was on target and we created a fair few chances.. so the shots on target thing is a sport bible special.. we created chances.

We have go into the top 6 games with no expectation.. and they have pressure on them, probably as much..

We need to not worry about surprise points and win the games against hull Burnley and Leicester.. then it's job done anything else from the other 7 is a bonus
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Old 21-03-2017, 12:35 AM
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Old 21-03-2017, 01:15 AM
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What makes you think that Hull are going to get 14 points out of 27 when they have only got 24 out of 87 so far and have a goal difference of -32 having conceded 58.

They have won just 4 games in the league since October and their only away win was back in August.

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Old 21-03-2017, 02:52 AM
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What makes you think that Hull are going to get 14 points out of 27 when they have only got 24 out of 87 so far and have a goal difference of -32 having conceded 58.

They have won just 4 games in the league since October and their only away win was back in August.

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A. They appear to have improved recently
B. They have a kind set of fixtures
C. Most years some teams near the bottom rally and pick up more points in their final 10 games

Anyway, there is no point arguing it really. We are all guessing and there is no right or wrong anyway because these things aren't going to follow some kind of pre determined destiny... Anything could happen from here, it hasn't been written.
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Old 21-03-2017, 07:41 AM
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Even if Hull do benefit from their easier run in they'll have to pass other teams besides us.

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A. They appear to have improved recently
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Anyway, there is no point arguing it really. We are all guessing and there is no right or wrong anyway because these things aren't going to follow some kind of pre determined destiny... Anything could happen from here, it hasn't been written.
West Ham beat Hull that will finish them
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Old 21-03-2017, 09:22 AM
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What makes you think that Hull are going to get 14 points out of 27 when they have only got 24 out of 87 so far and have a goal difference of -32 having conceded 58.

They have won just 4 games in the league since October and their only away win was back in August.

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Because it's the end of the season. All sorts of things happen. West Brom were bottom at Christmas but lost only 3 of their last 12 games. We all know what happened that season.
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Why is nobody thinking we could be the side that has that run to propel us up the table we are on a run of three unbeaten

Everybody is talking all the other teams up but not us that seems strange to me
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There's too many teams in the mix right now to worry about Hull. Sure Hull might go on a streak. But then Swansea might not. Or Watford and Burnley might continue their awful runs.

Let's just concentrate on getting some decent results and put any doubts on the back burner.
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Old 21-03-2017, 09:43 AM
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We have to get Benteke scoring again - or hope Campbell/Remy come in and grab a few. Can't keep relying on Wilf, Andros or Deeney to get the goals we need.
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Old 21-03-2017, 09:56 AM
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There are so many unknown variables involved i think the temptation to seek comfort from stats is potentially misleading. I still think it's a coin flip at this moment in time as to whether we will do enough and i think the bookies have offered significant value on a bet for us to be relegated for most of the season. I have cashed mine out though for a decent profit as i think we look far more likely now than ever to pull it off. I think we possibly have the best starting 11 currently in the bottom half and i think we are starting to look solid. The trouble is the dreaded run in and the fact that ultimately it's not a case of comparing the teams directly.
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I can't see Hull getting enough points. I would much rather have more points but a harder run in than be in Hull's position.
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Everybody is talking all the other teams up but not us that seems strange to me
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Yeap my 30th year as a season ticket holder so seen a lot of ups and downs, just feel we have a good team spirit now and enough about us to cause problems, to all the teams we have left to play.
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