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Old 11-10-2018, 12:03 PM
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I've met transgender people. I've spoken with them about their decision to change.

In one case, prior to meeting him, I had no idea he'd been a woman before and I had clear ideas about gender and the use of him/her/he/she etc.

I spoke to him about it. His parents supported his change. They said he always behaved like their other son, rather than like a woman. This idea that it's a delusion or a mental illness is a very easy way to undermine or denigrate what is ultimately an incredible process to go through for people who are transgender. Why would people willingly differentiate themselves from the societal norms in such a way, if it wasn't for a very good reason?

So yeah, Shapiro isn't wrong about his use of a gender pronoun. He's not wrong to call someone a 'he' when they used to be a 'she' -- in biological terms, he's absolutely right. But the context is that for people who go through this process, who go through a process of alienation (which in many cases it is) they have to fight societal perception but also their own insecurities to be called a man.

It's not just about political correctness but about some kind of basic level of decency, isn't it? Why when it only affects a tiny percentage of the population is it such a defining issue?
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He’s a massive bellend and he uses his “intelligence” to entice in stupid people who thinks that anyone on the right that can speak properly must be ok. He’s a very clever man and uses that to manipulate people who aren’t.
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Saying that, this is a thread started by Coastal Palace, so I fully expect it to be a wind up that I’ve just fallen for. Shit.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:28 PM
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"“When someone calls you a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe because you happen to disagree with them about tax policy or same-sex marriage or abortion, that’s bullying. When someone slanders you because you happen to disagree with them about global warming or the government shutdown, that’s bullying. When someone labels you a bad human being because they disagree with you, they are bullying you. They are attacking your character without justification. That’s nasty. In fact, it makes them nasty.” "

What a cry baby
Shapiro makes the assumption that people even know what they're talking about in the first place. Being able to blurt out misinformed bullshit and straight up lies doesn't make someone immune to being labelled what they are without having to pretend to give due merit.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:29 PM
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Saying that, this is a thread started by Coastal Palace, so I fully expect it to be a wind up that I’ve just fallen for. Shit.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:33 PM
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"“When someone calls you a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe because you happen to disagree with them about tax policy or same-sex marriage or abortion, that’s bullying. When someone slanders you because you happen to disagree with them about global warming or the government shutdown, that’s bullying. When someone labels you a bad human being because they disagree with you, they are bullying you. They are attacking your character without justification. That’s nasty. In fact, it makes them nasty.” "

What a cry baby
Of course when you believe that citizens deserve only some rights that others have, that does tend to mean you're a bigot. Sure, you might not believe in gay marriage, but fundermentally that's a bigoted position - by default, it doesn't matter how you justify it to yourself, you're supporting a position in which enforces inequality by default of position of a majority.

That's not actually bullying.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:40 PM
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Saying that, this is a thread started by Coastal Palace, so I fully expect it to be a wind up that I’ve just fallen for. Shit.
It's not a wind up. I genuinely like most of his views.
You don't like his views so it's automatically a wind up.
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He’s a massive bellend and he uses his “intelligence” to entice in stupid people who thinks that anyone on the right that can speak properly must be ok. He’s a very clever man and uses that to manipulate people who aren’t.
Because his views conflict with yours then people that agree with him are stupid?
And they said democracy was dead.

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Actually, you're like the woman panellist on the left...




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That doesn't really fit the 80 year theory, though, does it?

Did you not like the 60s and 70s?
Sorry - was referring to a cycle, rather than a specific time gap.

I have wonderful memories of the (late) 60s and the 70s - but as a carefree child, not concerned about the economy. And trips to Selhurst Park were an exciting adventure, rather than filled with foreboding ...
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No, there's only so many ways I can opine that I think Hennessey is a shit keeper.
Link me to your arguments about that on the BBS please?
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Of course when you believe that citizens deserve only some rights that others have, that does tend to mean you're a bigot. Sure, you might not believe in gay marriage, but fundermentally that's a bigoted position - by default, it doesn't matter how you justify it to yourself, you're supporting a position in which enforces inequality by default of position of a majority.

That's not actually bullying.
Yep... but that makes him right-wing... not a extremist (as some call him). I don't agree with the majority of his views... but I've not heard anything that deserves the "no platforming" protests in the states.
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