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Old 11-10-2018, 12:10 PM
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Earlier posters said they were told 400 on the phone will be removed from Block E.

I am guessing HF will have 100-200 and the rest will be open, how they do it I don't know as there will be big demand.

But Parish carefully hinted in FYP he wants it grow so I expect this is phase 1 with year on year people being moved.
It with the number this year, with the section growing forwards year on year (I expect)
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:11 PM
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when I was called I asked about joining the singing section but was told that they didn't know how the seats for that will be allocated yet, do they know what they are doing
Itís just being dressed up as that, itís clear from those getting calls itís all about Parish little boys in black getting better seats, nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:14 PM
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Just had a message from the club and itís the back 16 rows of block E, 50% off ST for next year and 1500 loyalty points.

I don't really need more loyalty points as I'm already in the top bracket and 50% off a seat that won't be near the singing section isn't exactly what I was looking for. I guess I'm just one of the few hundred that are going to have to take one for the HF. Disappointed that the club haven't made any effort to create an inclusive singing section.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:16 PM
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If the club had any sense, for the first year of this singing section, if anyone wants to join and be part of it, they have to already have a ST in the LH.

That will at least then allow those being moved to get seats still in the LH.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:23 PM
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:23 PM
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I was hoping the deal to fans didn't include Parish points as major games where you need points suddenly will see us dropping right down the pecking order.
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could have been something really positive & brought the fan base together.

but this is a PR disaster and will drive a even bigger wedge through the LH.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:28 PM
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I was hoping the deal to fans didn't include Parish points as major games where you need points suddenly will see us dropping right down the pecking order.
So it's alright to remove loyal supporters from their seats so long as they don't give them Parish points to drop you down the pecking order?
I thought we were being selfish not wanting to give up our seats?
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:29 PM
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I was hoping the deal to fans didn't include Parish points as major games where you need points suddenly will see us dropping right down the pecking order.
Bad for fans who could miss away game because of it but it's a sweetener that don't cost club any money those who thought sp would be throwing massive actual cash were dreaming
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:34 PM
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Apparently, you can't use the word 'displaced' on this thread. It insults the Palestinans.

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So it's alright to remove loyal supporters from their seats so long as they don't give them Parish points to drop you down the pecking order?
I thought we were being selfish not wanting to give up our seats?
I've not condemned the Parish points offer have I? I was merely stating it is a good offer and one that equally puts other fans in a worse position so it isn't all one sided.
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Maybe the HF will respond to Parish that this (essentially) seat grab is not what they wanted so forget it and they’ll go back to block b.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:50 PM
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Itís just being dressed up as that, itís clear from those getting calls itís all about Parish little boys in black getting better seats, nothing more, nothing less.
How did 200 Hol Flouncers get all that block for the FA cup final. ?

Don't tell me it was all ST people with history. This was nothing more than the Hol Flouncers bringing their family and mates,...at the expense of other supporters.

Don't get me wrong. Visually and vocally it was fantastic.

Shedding your most loyal fans is not a good long-term business strategy to me.
But I'm not a millionaire like our owners, so I guess what they say goes.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:54 PM
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Maybe the HF will respond to Parish that this (essentially) seat grab is not what they wanted so forget it and theyíll go back to block b.
^^^ hopefully, but I wouldn't pin too much on that.

The other issue is possible crowd trouble. there are plenty of big units outside of the HF, that won't be picked-on to move seats like the women and children they regularly displace.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:56 PM
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Parish has made another terrible decision here and I donít sit in block E.He has set a terrible precedent and will find himself in a similar position when the ďfanaticsĒ donít get their own way in the future and they have another hissy fit/strike.


In Italy many clubs are at the mercy of the ultras and the ultras do what they want. This has translated here as rushing the Amex gates, kicking fans out of their seats, fighting our own fans, coin throwing etc.

The HF were based in block B because that was where the singing and standing section was. When the away fans were moved they claimed a corner of noise would be created. Now they demand the best seats in the Holmesdale despite the fact that ultras are generally at the front of the stand in most other countries....

Go to a German game and you will see he HF For what they are.
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Apparently, you can't use the word 'displaced' on this thread. It insults the Palestinans.

Some people are just plain tw*ttish.
Palacetinians surely?

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Just listened to SP on the FYP podcast. Three points he made that stuck out:

1. The larger the singing section, the greater the disruption. There is a logic to this if the singing section is created simply by moving people out and moving others in (the hf plus some as yet undetermined 'singers'. But by resetting the whole stand there would be less disruption (I'm defining this as net negative impact) even if more people move seats, as well as a far greater impact on the size and ferocity of the vocal section. Surely SP must understand this? He is either 'fudging it' (despite saying 'there's no point fudging it') because it involves to much admin work or:

2. He believes that opening the vocal section up so that anyone can apply will mean that many will apply just to get better seats and there is no guarantee they will sing. This maybe true and obviously we aren't going to hold singing competitions. However it surely wouldn't be any worse than the situation they are about to create by plonking singer/standers into an area where most sit? The many possible benefits of resetting the stand have been discussed at length on here, however it seems that SP doesn't trust people to make a seating decision based on actually wanting to be in the vocal area or not, and that people will just try and grab the better seats. Will people that like to sit/have to sit/don't want to sing/dislike the drum/bouncing up and down of the hf really opt to sit in that section just because of a better view?

3. He says this will solve the issues of standing and sitting. How exactly. A full reset may help. This may just make things worse.

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