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Chelsea will field a youth team and beat us just like utd did.
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Chelsea will field a youth team and beat us just like utd did.
Oh why don't you just FUCK OFF!
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Chelsea will field a youth team and beat us just like utd did.
What like Chelsea beat us with their first team at Selhurst this season or at The Bridge last season???

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In fact Wigan in 2012/13 are most often used as the example of how detrimental a cup run can be. In that 2012/13 season when they won the cup, they took 18 points from their first 21 games prior to the third round of the cup. In their remaining 17 games they also took 18 points, so again a slight upturn in results and again an extrapolation of that points per game ratio across the entire season would have been sufficient to see them safe from relegation.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the cup run which did us the most damage which was 1976. If memory serves, we were running away with the old third division title when the Cup run began, and as we progressed we all got very excited about fedoras and forgot about the league.

It was great fun, especially the wins at Leeds and Chelsea, but hugely damaging to our league form. Does anybody have any data about our form pre and post the cup run, which I believe began against the mighty Walton & Hersham?
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the cup run which did us the most damage which was 1976. If memory serves, we were running away with the old third division title when the Cup run began, and as we progressed we all got very excited about fedoras and forgot about the league.



It was great fun, especially the wins at Leeds and Chelsea, but hugely damaging to our league form. Does anybody have any data about our form pre and post the cup run, which I believe began against the mighty Walton & Hersham?

Just had a look. I have converted our results into the current 3 points for a win method, and for the sake of a reasonable 'before and after' comparison, ignored rounds 1 and 2 of the cup.

This splits the season equally into 23 games before round 3 and 23 after. In the first half we accrued 43 points, in the second half 28 so certainly a tail off in form although not quite as drastic as I had assumed.

A couple of interesting points from that season. We only lost 1 of our first 20 league games, which is highly impressive. However, our form actually started to nosedive immediately before the third round of the cup when we lost 3 on the bounce in the league over the Christmas period. We ended the season with a dismal run of just 1 win in our last 8 games, yet still only missed out on promotion by 3 points (old 2 points for a win basis), so just a couple more wins would have seen us home. Inevitably, the Weed did the double over us that year, and we only took 1 point from our 2 games against Millwall.
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Just had a look. I have converted our results into the current 3 points for a win method, and for the sake of a reasonable 'before and after' comparison, ignored rounds 1 and 2 of the cup.

This splits the season equally into 23 games before round 3 and 23 after. In the first half we accrued 43 points, in the second half 28 so certainly a tail off in form although not quite as drastic as I had assumed.

A couple of interesting points from that season. We only lost 1 of our first 20 league games, which is highly impressive. However, our form actually started to nosedive immediately before the third round of the cup when we lost 3 on the bounce in the league over the Christmas period. We ended the season with a dismal run of just 1 win in our last 8 games, yet still only missed out on promotion by 3 points (old 2 points for a win basis), so just a couple more wins would have seen us home. Inevitably, the Weed did the double over us that year, and we only took 1 point from our 2 games against Millwall.
Many thanks.

I seem to remember Peter Taylor missing a hugely important penalty in the 0-0 draw at home to Millwall. It was an evening kick-off in the middle of the cup run, IIRC.
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I seem to remember Peter Taylor missing a hugely important penalty in the 0-0 draw at home to Millwall. It was an evening kick-off in the middle of the cup run, IIRC.

Yes, 30 March which was only 4 days before the semi final against Southampton.

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Yes, 30 March which was only 4 days before the semi final against Southampton.

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Many thanks again. I was 13 that season and spellbound by it all. So within the space of a few months we won at Chelsea and lost at Chester!
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