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As a member of the EU, the U.K. benefits from more than 40 preferential trade agreements with countries and regional groups around the world. The country will probably cease to participate in those agreements when Brexit is complete, Foraus said.
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As a member of the EU, the U.K. benefits from more than 40 preferential trade agreements with countries and regional groups around the world. The country will probably cease to participate in those agreements when Brexit is complete, Foraus said.
PROBABLY...... We will have our own individual separate tariff free agreements with those 40 in place by then anyway.
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PROBABLY...... We will have our own individual separate tariff free agreements in place anyway.
Who's going to agree them Dribble?

David Davies and his crack squad of negotiators?
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PROBABLY...... We will have our own individual separate tariff free agreements with those 40 in place by then anyway.
we are still waitiing for the link to the official govt report on the effect of EU immigration on the education system from you
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Anyone who voted Leave to stop EU migrants scrounging care to comment on this?
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It's worth noting that THE UK HAS NEVER ENFORCED THIS. This is because doing so would require tracking of entry and exit dates, which would likely require an ID card system. The UK government has always decided that this is too high a cost AS EU CITIZENS PAY IN TAXES MORE THAN THEY COST.
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we are still waitiing for the link to the official govt report on the effect of EU immigration on the education system from you
Keep looking then. I am sure you will find it if you look hard enough. What with your sta... detective skills. Its quite well hidden, apart from the fact Telegraph, and Ms Morgan knowing its whereabouts. I suggest you try them for starters.
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Brexit economy: UK faces slowdown amid living standards squeeze

The latest monthly Guardian analysis finds households facing rising costs and firms concerned over political uncertainty

Britain’s vote to leave the EU has squeezed living standards, hit consumer spending and dampened the country’s growth prospects, a Guardian analysis of economic news over the year since the referendum shows.

One year since voters narrowly opted for Brexit, the Guardian’s monthly tracker of economic news paints a gloomy picture, with households facing rising costs and firms fretting over falling demand and political uncertainty.

But at the turn of the year the economy slowed markedly and the UK slipped to the bottom of the European growth league. It was also left trailing behind the world’s advanced economies.

As the pound’s sharp drop since the referendum works its way through the economy into higher prices in the shops, the pressures on consumer spending threaten to keep growth in the doldrums. Now that complex Brexit talks are gettting under way, business groups are also warning of headwinds from fraught domestic politics and uncertainty around the UK’s future trading and immigration arrangements.

To gauge the impact of the Brexit vote on a monthly basis, the Guardian has been tracking eight economic indicators, along with the value of the pound and the performance of the stock market.

The dashboard for June shows retail sales have dropped, inflation is at a four-year high, wage growth has slowed and the housing market is losing momentum (pdf). The pound has weakened again after Theresa May’s election gamble backfired and she failed to secure a majority in parliament.
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Keep looking then. I am sure you will find it if you look hard enough. What with your sta... detective skills. Its quite well hidden, apart from the fact Telegraph, and Ms Morgan knowing its whereabouts. I suggest you try them for starters.
I can't be bothered as you have been caught fibbing again. Did Willeim tell you to?
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Anyone who voted Leave to stop EU migrants scrounging care to comment on this?
I tried that last year - you can't get past their xenophobia
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one really does wonder why we bothered with Brexit at all.

(Bloomberg) -- Britain should consider a pact with the European Free Trade Association to kick-start its post-Brexit trading relations with 38 nations, according to Foraus, a think tank focused on Swiss foreign policy.

The U.K. could emulate the association agreement Finland had with EFTA for 25 years until 1986, said Cenni Najy, a Geneva-based senior policy fellow at Foraus. Such a setup would give Britain access to EFTA’s free-trade arrangements, without committing it to the free movement of people permitted between full members Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein, he said.

“It would allow the U.K. to preserve a status quo in non-EU trade, instead of starting from scratch,” said Najy, who co-authored a study on the topic with David Phinnemore, a professor of European politics at Queen’s University Belfast in the U.K. “The natural house of Britain is EFTA.”

U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May, who intends to pull the U.K. out of the European Union’s single market for goods and services, should consider taking Britain back into EFTA, which it left in 1972 to join the EU, as a way to jump-start post-Brexit global trade negotiations, a panel of U.K. lawmakers said in March. An association agreement with EFTA, which the U.K. helped found in 1960, would be much better than falling back on WTO rules, said Najy.

Such a deal would provide flexibility to the U.K. and reassure existing EFTA members that the balance of power in the association wouldn’t shift, he said. Swiss Economy Minister Johann Schneider-Ammann said in April that if the U.K. rejoined EFTA as a full member, there would be a risk of Britain dominating the group.

“Switzerland would be particularly favorable to this option, because it has its own issues with immigration,” Najy said. An association agreement could include a “safeguard clause” to limit the movement of people, he said.

An association deal could be a precursor to full EFTA membership and potentially rejoining the EU’s single market, said Najy. Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein are part of European Economic Area, which gives access to the single market, while Switzerland has negotiated 120 separate bilateral agreements with the EU.

As a member of the EU, the U.K. benefits from more than 40 preferential trade agreements with countries and regional groups around the world. The country will probably cease to participate in those agreements when Brexit is complete, Foraus said.
It is quite astonishing that we haven't had one senior politician come out and say that we need to take stock of where we are at and review what is best for the country (regarding Brexit). The whole political climate has now changed and all political parties are (or claim to be) moving away from austerity politics. But when is someone going to stand up and say that Brexit and an end to austerity are mutually incompatible in terms of the finances of the country and resources to actually get things done?
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I tried that last year - you can't get past their xenophobia
mik and I tried before the referendum (a lot). Hell I even quoted the law iirc.

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Oh don't get me wrong, so did I back then - just thought it might be worth another shot now. Seeing as we're now seeing in closer focus the costs of leaving ...

(And I am quoting the law - its linked in the text!)
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It's hard to hear anything when you're too busy chanting "We want our country back" I think.
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PROBABLY...... We will have our own individual separate tariff free agreements with those 40 in place by then anyway.
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PROBABLY...... We will have our own individual separate tariff free agreements with those 40 in place by then anyway.

How do you know that the new separate agreements will be tariff free? I wonder how many agreements currently exist with other blocs that give the EU favourable terms, which may prevent tariff free agreements with other nations?

Everything that pro-Brexit voters say always seems like wishful fantasy thinking against the cold light of day.
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