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jazman 19-08-2009 11:04 AM

1. I don't agree
2. Agreed
3. If he survives to the Packers away game then he'll certainly be in trouble there ... is he going to be starting QB though? Didn't Rosenfels play well in the pre-season game?
4. He's the kind of tool that would have burnt it before today .. ;)

pauldrulez 19-08-2009 11:10 AM

Well, you could actually say that the current Favre sucks.

He cost the Jets a playoff spot last year.

They were 8-3 after beating the Patriots and Titans.

How the hell do you end up not making the playoffs when you were 2nd at that point?

They won the 8 games with Thomas Jones running the ball. 5 games to go, then Favre got cocky, decided to be the gun slinger and cost them at least 2 matches. The Week 17 match was the worst QB display of the season and I include Dan Orlovsky running out of the end-zone and Sage "protect the ball and we win" Rosenfels running into 3 Colts and being turned into a helicopter.

Will they be better with Favre? Yes. But only if Favre keeps it in hand and allows AD to run ALL DAY long.

jazman 19-08-2009 12:05 PM

He's a gun slinger, end of. He's not there to just pass it to AP. I don't know much about the Vikings if I'm honest, do they have much at WR?

pauldrulez 19-08-2009 12:07 PM

Berrian.

Drafted Harvin.

Shiancoe at TE.

If they don't let Peterson run as much as he used to. They will not be as good as they would be with a game manager IMO.

jazman 19-08-2009 12:14 PM

Will be interesting to see how it works out. There's a lot to look for for me this season;

1. How will the Lions and more to the point Stafford get on?
2. Can Matt Ryan continue in the same vein this season?
3. Will Flacco start where he left off?
4. Return of the Cowboys?
5. Vick at the Eagles
6. Crabtree at 49ers
7. Cassel in Kansas
8. Miami & Saints - I'm sticking my neck out as saying that I think either of these two could go all the way

pauldrulez 19-08-2009 12:24 PM

Cutler and Orton :)

Singletary.

Can Rex Ryan back up his BS'ing at the Patriots and Dolphins? (I'm going no)

Can the Texans push on and become a playoff team and push out the Colts/Titans.

Giants Defense back to the way it was in 07.

And last, but not least.

Who can kill the Wilddog? and the Wildpat?

jazman 19-08-2009 12:27 PM

Agree with yours as well ...

pauldrulez 19-08-2009 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Can Rex Ryan back up his BS'ing at the Patriots and Dolphins? (I'm going no)

http://www.nfl.com/trainingcamp/stor...s&confirm=true

This guy is writing a check that Sanchez, Gholston, that defense and his fat ass can't cash.

I really, really hope they finish bottom of the division.

nookiebear 19-08-2009 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazman
Will be interesting to see how it works out. There's a lot to look for for me this season;

1. How will the Lions and more to the point Stafford get on?
2. Can Matt Ryan continue in the same vein this season?
3. Will Flacco start where he left off?
4. Return of the Cowboys?
5. Vick at the Eagles
6. Crabtree at 49ers
7. Cassel in Kansas
8. Miami & Saints - I'm sticking my neck out as saying that I think either of these two could go all the way

My thoughts on these

1. I think Culpepper will start. He's meant to have slimmed down and looks improved

2. Ryan, Yes I think he will. He's the real deal

3. Flacco, not so convinced. Is he dynamic enough to become a threat through the air? Not sure.

4. I'll sound biased, but I think Dallas will find it tough without TO. I think the Skins and Eagles have upgraded the most in the NFC BEast. I think three teams will go through to the play-offs from the league's toughest division.
But I have no idea which three. Too tough to call.

5.Vick - He'll be a bit part until very late in the season. He might be a game changer a couple of times. There'll be headlines, but not many. He's been out for a long time

6. Crabtree - wide receivers often struggle in year one, and he's missed a lot of camp and a lot of time learning the playbook, learning his routes, etc. He could have a very quiet first year, but his cocksure attitude means he could be the next Desean Jackson

7. Cassel - I think he'll be found out. He knew the system in NE and had great talent and coaches to help him through

8 Miami and Saints. I don't think either will win. Miami have a tough schedule and I'm not sure the wildcat will be so effective. Saints. Great offense, defense still a work in progress

Strathclyde Eagle 19-08-2009 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oz_da II
He lives in Mississippi. I think that's your answer right there. ;)

I can't remember which tweet it was that said it, but it is true that Brett Favre's retirements don't say much for spending time down on the farm in Mississippi.

jazman 20-08-2009 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nookiebear
My thoughts on these

1. I think Culpepper will start. He's meant to have slimmed down and looks improved

2. Ryan, Yes I think he will. He's the real deal

3. Flacco, not so convinced. Is he dynamic enough to become a threat through the air? Not sure.

4. I'll sound biased, but I think Dallas will find it tough without TO. I think the Skins and Eagles have upgraded the most in the NFC BEast. I think three teams will go through to the play-offs from the league's toughest division.
But I have no idea which three. Too tough to call.

5.Vick - He'll be a bit part until very late in the season. He might be a game changer a couple of times. There'll be headlines, but not many. He's been out for a long time

6. Crabtree - wide receivers often struggle in year one, and he's missed a lot of camp and a lot of time learning the playbook, learning his routes, etc. He could have a very quiet first year, but his cocksure attitude means he could be the next Desean Jackson

7. Cassel - I think he'll be found out. He knew the system in NE and had great talent and coaches to help him through

8 Miami and Saints. I don't think either will win. Miami have a tough schedule and I'm not sure the wildcat will be so effective. Saints. Great offense, defense still a work in progress

Great response fella, and very sensible thoughts. I really do hope however that losing TO will have the opposite effect on the Cowboys.

pauldrulez 20-08-2009 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nookiebear
My thoughts on these

1. I think Culpepper will start. He's meant to have slimmed down and looks improved

2. Ryan, Yes I think he will. He's the real deal

3. Flacco, not so convinced. Is he dynamic enough to become a threat through the air? Not sure.

4. I'll sound biased, but I think Dallas will find it tough without TO. I think the Skins and Eagles have upgraded the most in the NFC BEast. I think three teams will go through to the play-offs from the league's toughest division.
But I have no idea which three. Too tough to call.

5.Vick - He'll be a bit part until very late in the season. He might be a game changer a couple of times. There'll be headlines, but not many. He's been out for a long time

6. Crabtree - wide receivers often struggle in year one, and he's missed a lot of camp and a lot of time learning the playbook, learning his routes, etc. He could have a very quiet first year, but his cocksure attitude means he could be the next Desean Jackson

7. Cassel - I think he'll be found out. He knew the system in NE and had great talent and coaches to help him through

8 Miami and Saints. I don't think either will win. Miami have a tough schedule and I'm not sure the wildcat will be so effective. Saints. Great offense, defense still a work in progress

I'll follow through on Nook's predictions.

1. Culpepper. They'll ruin Stafford if they start him straight away.

2/3: Ryan has the intangibles that a star QB needs. Flacco, i'm not so sure about, but ready to be proved wrong.

4: I don't think 3 get through from the NFCE. Just because of the quality of the NFCN and NFCS.

5: Vick's impact. After his suspension, he'll have something to prove. But, i'm not sure how his agility or arm strength is now.

6: Crabtree. I doubt he'll start. Both La Canfora and Schefter saying that they are still a huge amount apart. Just get your ass in camp, if you do well, you get a big contract 2nd time around. Considering DH-B has sucked in Oakland, he only needs to be decent to prove Oakland wrong.

7: Cassel. I think he'll fail now. Didn't before, do now. No Gonzalez, Bowe being an ass, no quality at TE, already knew the OLine sucked. At Denver, in the system he was familiar with. He'd have done very well. KC, not so sure.

8. Miami/Saints. I think the AFCE is going to be the hardest division to get out of this year. A hard schedule. Will struggle to get a wildcard spot with teams like Bengals/Ravens, all 4 AFCS teams and the rest. Saints though I think will be in there. Defense has improved a lot, depends if it clicks.

pauldrulez 20-08-2009 09:29 AM

Oh, missed out Dallas.

I think it depends on how much pressure is put on Romo.

If Barber, Jones and Choice stay healthy. Then I think they improve.

If they don't and Romo needs to sling it to Williams and Witten (and Crayton/Austin) in December to win games. They aren't going to do it. They need to get a good start this year. If they don't, it could be a long year.

But, D-Ware. Contract year. Massive, Massive year ahead for him. Uncapped year. Guaranteed money, off the charts.

Finally,

2011 - Kraft's son Jonathan was on the radio the other day. It sounded like the Lockout in 2011 is coming. Said there was little to no contact between the Owners and the rest of the league about this. Said Uncapped Year was 99%

jazman 20-08-2009 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldrulez
I'll follow through on Nook's predictions.

Do you need some toilet paper? :o

pauldrulez 20-08-2009 10:18 AM

;)

It looked worse how I first wrote it.

I'm tired, blame it on that.

jazman 20-08-2009 01:36 PM

I blame it on Favre ;)

elliott 20-08-2009 10:17 PM

As if by magic Paul...


http://smartfootball.com/uncategoriz...-on-d#more-163

pauldrulez 20-08-2009 10:19 PM

Thanks,

Will give it a read now :p

pauldrulez 20-08-2009 10:22 PM

Let me quickly take a tangent and say that I noticed something with the names of the last 2 Patriots Linemen drafted.

Darryl RICHARD and Myron PRYOR.

Richard Pryor.

Oh, I hope they make the team.

Chances in both making the team - 0%

pauldrulez 20-08-2009 10:26 PM

Quote:

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger suffered an injury during practice on Thursday, and he currently is being tended to by trainers.

Per our buddy Mike Logan of ESPN 1250 in Pittsburgh (yes, the same Mike Logan who played for the Steelers and West Virginia University), left tackle Max Starks fell and rolled up on Roethlisberger's leg.

Logan advises that, according to ESPN 1250's Ken Laird, Roethlisberger's leg is "heavily wrapped" and he couldn't put pressure on it when trying to stand.

Coincidentally, the injury occurred on the day that typically includes an "unexpected" break from practice, a tradition started by former coach Bill Cowher.

But there was no "Movie Day" this year; instead, the Steelers concluded camp with one more session of two-a-days.

"Just a little mental warfare," coach Mike Tomlin said after the morning session. "Sometimes people need to be horribly disappointed and then asked to perform. And they did pretty well."

As Mike Logan said, "I bet you they are thinking Movie Day would have been a good idea now."
I think the last update I saw was that it may have been a torn achilles, but now think it isn't.


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