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jazman 29-08-2009 11:14 PM

There could be an arguement but I think what has happened to the Eagles in the close season has improved them and I'm hoping the same stands for the Cowboys. Obviously the Skins can be included in that but the GIants could be the team to struggle. Sounds silly but could be what happens. For that reason the NFC BEast remains the toughest in my view ....

Swanny32 30-08-2009 09:12 AM

AFC South and AFC East are no where near the level of the NFC Beast. Having said that I genuinly think that the only team in the NFC Beast to improve over off season is us. Cowgirls haven't replaced TO and IMO don't have a go to WR anymore. The Foreskins need to face up to facts and realise they need a new QB and The Giants don't have anyone for Eli to pass too!

We have one of the best QB's in the league and another superb QB at #2 in Vick, now have a big name go to receiver in DJax (can't wait for Elliott to get home with my new jersey!), one of the best running backs in the NFL in Westbrook and his new right hand man Shady McCoy is proving to be a bit of a handful as well. A very highly respected and quality Defense with a few players with a point to prove like Laws and Mikell, the OL hasn't been all that spectacular in pre season but am told that they will be one of the best in the NFL come the start of the season. Barr a few annoying injuries especially Stewart Bradley at MLB we have a great chance to go places this season and prove we are the best team in the strongest division. Tell me you're not scared of us, do it, I dare you!

pauldrulez 30-08-2009 09:47 AM

Eagles may have strengthened their offense. But they lost Brian Dawkins, Stewart Bradley and their DC Jimmie Johnson (RIP) as well as injuries to Westbrook and the booing of McNabb ;). The worst move being putting Ellis Hobbs in as 3rd CB. Awful idea. He needs Safety help, didn't get it in one play I saw and it was a 70 yard TD.

I'm not particularly scared of the Eagles. Our D plays vanilla in pre-season with their pathetic attempts at tackling and we still got the win ;)

I think they are being overhyped right now

I think Eagles could start 0-2.

I think Campbell is a decent QB for that offense if he can do what he done for the first half of the season last year. DON'T turn the ball over. Let Portis do his thing and find Cooley, Moss, Randle El, Kelly, Thomas etc when you have to.

Cowboys will get a huge year from D-Ware. Contract year. This has to be Romo's last year to prove himself. You can't not win in December and the play-offs.

Giants pass-rush gets them through whatever their offense is. Schefter said that whoever gets cut out of the 9 D-Linemen they have, would be a starter in more than half of the league. Some of the QBs will end up hurt with that Line against them. They can run the ball until Jacobs breaks down without Ward. Eli isn't as good as he is hyped. One dropped glue helmet-catch and he would not be as good as rated. I'd struggle to put him in a top 10 of QBs.

pauldrulez 30-08-2009 09:55 AM

Just a quick add-on from last nights games.

Matt Cassel got badly hurt. Pocket collapsed and he went to run, brought down from behind and his leg went all twisted. Made me feel sick seeing it on the replay live. Not sure what angles they have on NFL.com though. That O-Line are going to end up having more of their own QBs hurt than the oppositions by their D.

pauldrulez 30-08-2009 10:05 AM

http://static.nfl.com/static/content...allery_600.jpg
http://static.nfl.com/static/content...allery_600.jpg

ardeo 30-08-2009 10:56 AM

I've got to say i'm a bit worried by our defence this season, think we'll put up plenty of points though as our offence has been improved again and we have so many weapons and options now, as long as the OL holds should be able to outscore teams. Just don't think we are looking like a superbowl team. Think the NFC East will be very close again this year and Redskins might be a bit of a surprise package!

jazman 30-08-2009 11:01 AM

Did we really need close up's of a player in pain?

jazman 30-08-2009 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swanny32
AFC South and AFC East are no where near the level of the NFC Beast. Having said that I genuinly think that the only team in the NFC Beast to improve over off season is us. Cowgirls haven't replaced TO and IMO don't have a go to WR anymore. The Foreskins need to face up to facts and realise they need a new QB and The Giants don't have anyone for Eli to pass too!

We have one of the best QB's in the league and another superb QB at #2 in Vick, now have a big name go to receiver in DJax (can't wait for Elliott to get home with my new jersey!), one of the best running backs in the NFL in Westbrook and his new right hand man Shady McCoy is proving to be a bit of a handful as well. A very highly respected and quality Defense with a few players with a point to prove like Laws and Mikell, the OL hasn't been all that spectacular in pre season but am told that they will be one of the best in the NFL come the start of the season. Barr a few annoying injuries especially Stewart Bradley at MLB we have a great chance to go places this season and prove we are the best team in the strongest division. Tell me you're not scared of us, do it, I dare you!

I agree that we haven't particularly strengthen big time but you just don't know what the rookies will be like but from what I have read we have strengthened in the right arears and got teh cancer out of the locker room. A happy locker room will make such a difference to a team. I know that as I have played football from both a relaxed team of guys to one that are at each others throats and it's not nice the latter at all ... Romo will have some freedom now to pass to who he wants to without having to think he has to give a particular WR happy ...

You can;t discount the NYG, I like what the SKins have done and really think Campbell coud be out to prove the doubters wrong this season. Philly though are in top spot in terms of changes and it will be interesting to see how and when or if it all clicks ....

pauldrulez 30-08-2009 11:20 AM

Yep. The close-ups are from NFL.com. So I think they are pretty necessary.

Romo now only has to keep his boyfriend Witten happy to succeed.

Skins Defense = improved. Offense = about the same but better because of an extra year for Kelly/Thomas.
Cowboys Defense = about the same. Offense = Who knows? Williams hurt, TO's ego gone, but his talent has gone too but return of Felix Jones adds a bit.
Giants Defense = much improved. Injuries meant that wave after wave of pass rush had gone, that's now back. Offense = much weaker.
Eagles Defense = weaker. Eagles Offense = much improved.

Tough, Tough division.

Definition of irony:

Irony = Dog belonging to Robin Starr, CEO of SPCA, died after she left him in the car for 4 hours. Starr has been a very vocal critic of Eagles QB Mike Vick.

nookiebear 30-08-2009 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldrulez
I think Campbell is a decent QB for that offense if he can do what he done for the first half of the season last year. DON'T turn the ball over. Let Portis do his thing and find Cooley, Moss, Randle El, Kelly, Thomas etc when you have to.

You've said a few curious things about the Redskins recently IMHO

This suggests Campbell is a turnover machine - that's the one thing he's not. He only threw six picks last season. He is a game manager, but maybe too much of one sometimes, I'll admit, but that's as much on Zorn's playcalling as Campbell's decision

you said in another that he had inflated stats against the Pats because of busted coverage. Sorry, that's tosh.

That means all QBs ever have 'inflated' stats

Campbell hit a wide open Cooley for a massive gain after going through more than one read. Extra yards were gained through the skills of Cooley and an excellent block from rookie Mitchell.

I know why people don't show Campbell much love, but I think this could be his year

Last year he had a crumbling O-line, was playing yet another new system and basically only had Moss and Cooley to throw to. Teams clocked it, closed them down and Campbell struggled as a result

This year he'll have more options to throw to, understands the most complex passing playbook even more and has a healthy line which is looking strong

Portis also struggle when the line failed last year.

Give Campbell options and a bit of time and he'll deliver, as he showed the other night.

jazman 30-08-2009 11:31 AM

Whitten doesn't have the ego of TO. Actually, not a lot of people do!

Swanny32 30-08-2009 02:10 PM

Ardeo does!

Swanny32 30-08-2009 02:18 PM

Regardless of what happens this season for us I'm just excited about the season starting. Last season was the first season I actually sat up and took a real interest in the NFL, before that I liked it but never really watched any games and had never sat through an entire Superbowl! This year I'm excited because it all means something to me now, I know the players, the formations, majority of the rules and penalties, and of course we have our Fantasy Football which I'm determined not to come last in.

My goal this season is to learn about other teams, their players and the style of play they like to use as well as dip my toes into College football so that when the draft comes round next year I'll have an idea of who is good.

Also, and this might sound a tad gay but it's great to have you guys on here who I can learn from, have some banter with and to discuss happenings throughout the season. Bring on the season!!

Strathclyde Eagle 30-08-2009 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazman
Whitten doesn't have the ego of TO. Actually, not a lot of people do!

I would have loved it if someone employed by the Cowboys last season had said, "Actually we love Jason Witten because he plays hard, doesn't drop throws in his direction, and isn't all about himself." Pity it didn't happen.

jazman 30-08-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
I would have loved it if someone employed by the Cowboys last season had said, "Actually we love Jason Witten because he plays hard, doesn't drop throws in his direction, and isn't all about himself." Pity it didn't happen.

Agree completely.

Swanny32 30-08-2009 06:15 PM

I have just been looking at the cost of Philly tickets and it would appear that the only place you can get tickets is from Ticketmaster. Problem is (although Im not looking to go yet, still saving) they have no tickets left for any games so you have to go to the Philly Ticket Exchange where you are able to buy tickets from other fans who can't make the game for whatever reason. These tickets start from $139 (80)!!! And that's only for the home game against the 49ers. What is the face value of tickets?

Strathclyde Eagle 30-08-2009 10:23 PM

Can anyone in America let us in on the Andre Smith/weight jokes that have been going on in Hard Knocks? A YouTube search is tragically lacking in any useful results.

oz_da II 31-08-2009 04:36 AM

Very good signs regarding the Packer offense. :p

Quote:

The Packers' first-team offense has nine TDs and a field goal in 12 possessions. The starters have not been forced to punt.

pauldrulez 31-08-2009 10:07 AM

Rodgers has looked awesome so far.

That division (Lions aside) should be exciting.

24 odd hours in Patriotland.

We cut (or so it seems) our 3rd round back-up QB (hopefully for Feeley).

Now Teddy Bruschi has retired. IMO He didn't have a role this year and can't play on Special Teams and would have been cut, but I think that leaves 2 players who have the 3 rings on their fingers.

Orton's finger = nasty. Looked disgusting.

Latvian Eagle 01-09-2009 01:39 PM

0-3 Pre season for us so far! :hi:


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