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Benzhiyi 09-12-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
...stupid plays like the 2 point conversion attempt

An insane statement.

Did you watch the game? The KC D was knacked and had no answer to San Diego in the late going - the only way the Chiefs were going to win was with a two pointer. It was a ballsy, worth-a-gamble call.

Strathclyde Eagle 09-12-2008 03:56 PM

I hate it when people quote other users out of context. ;)

Anyway, here is Paul further explaining why he doesn't like going for two late on when he could kick an XP and get a tie.
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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
27-26. I scored early on in 2 plays. Forced a 3 and out. And scored on the 2 minute warning. Both were converted for 2. 19-19. I tried for a 3 and out but failed so used my brains to let them score a TD with 1:08 left. Then they were up by 7. I drove 76 yards in 8 plays with my 2 Timeouts left as well as running with Tarvaris out of bounds to pick up some big yardage with my 4 WR set going down field. I got a 4yd TD with 0:06 left on the clock. Went for 2. Used the QB sneak for the first time in ages as I thought the FB or Peterson would be stopped and scored :lux:

http://forums.cpfc.org/showthread.php?t=173392 ;)

saxoneagle 09-12-2008 03:59 PM

Have some rep, Strath :D

Strathclyde Eagle 09-12-2008 04:07 PM

[elvis]thankyouverymuch[/elvis]

Paul, sorry, couldn't resist it. Hope you take it in the manner intended. :p

saxoneagle 09-12-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
[elvis]thankyouverymuch[/elvis]

Paul, sorry, couldn't resist it. Hope you take it in the manner intended. :p

He's due another 12 hour flounce :p

Benzhiyi 09-12-2008 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Stewart has slowed recently, but I heard there have been injury concerns which is why DeAngelo has had a lot of carries.

Still disagree with me on the Panthers RBs after last night? :angel:

Latvian Eagle 09-12-2008 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzhiyi
Still disagree with me on the Panthers RBs after last night? :angel:

Why is there even any debate? The two work TOGETHER as a team. I wouldn't take either one over the other as long as they are playing this well as a tandem at the moment! :p Stewart & Otah have really changed the way we run the ball. Helps having a capable QB too!

pauldrulez 09-12-2008 06:51 PM

Er.

a) The 2 point conversion on Madden 09. The scenario is that you have to win which Ben can confirm, so you need the 2 point win.

b) There was no debate about the Panthers RBs, I said that they had slowed down and were coming up against a great defense and that Stewart had injury concerns. I was wrong as the Bucs couldn't stop them but I never said either Stewart or Williams were bad, just that Williams got the TDs in the RZ recently.

c) I explained the 2pt conversion point before Bens post, I was referring to the fact that they will do plays like that and other risky things as it doesn't affect their season as if they win, they win, if they lose, they get a better draft pick. And the Dolphins have to take advantage of the risks that may be taken.

pauldrulez 09-12-2008 06:55 PM

Oh, and Bruschi is on IR.

Are there any other players that people like for LB that are available. We now have two players that this time last week didnt have a team, two rookies performing above what they should be and 2 on the Practise Squad. With our other 2 linebackers in the Squad partially injured in Redd and Vrabel.

pauldrulez 09-12-2008 07:27 PM

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Posted about 12 hours ago0 Comments 17 Recommendations E-mail
Patriots coping after injuries to Bruschi, Wilfork, Sanders
Associated Press


SAN JOSE, Calif. -- With just three regular-season games left, there's plenty of uncertainty surrounding the New England Patriots.

Will they make the playoffs for the sixth straight season? And, if they do, how many of their first-string defenders will be able to play in them after three more were injured in Sunday's 24-21 win at Seattle.

"We had a lot of players step in for us defensively," coach Bill Belichick Monday.

That's been a season-long pattern.

Only five of the defensive players who started the season opener were physically able to play at the end of the victory over the Seahawks. The Patriots lost three key players in the first half -- linebacker Tedy Bruschi with a left knee injury, nose tackle Vince Wilfork with a shoulder injury and safety James Sanders with a rib injury.

They already were without safety Rodney Harrison and linebacker Adalius Thomas, both on the injured reserve list and done for the season. Defensive end Ty Warren missed his third game in four weeks with a thigh injury.

And on offense quarterback Tom Brady went on injured reserve after the first game and running back Laurence Maroney joined him after the fifth.

Yet the Patriots still have a chance to reach the playoffs. At 8-5, they're in a three-way tie with Miami and the New York Jets for the AFC East lead.

"It's a testament to the system and the coaching staff and what they do with schemes," recently unretired linebacker Junior Seau said in a conference call Monday from San Jose, where the Patriots are preparing for Sunday's game against the Raiders in Oakland. "Obviously, being competitive in the NFL with the injuries that have occurred this season, it's pretty impressive that we're still in the hunt."

Seau rejoined the Patriots last Thursday to add depth at the depleted linebacker spot. The previous day, linebacker Rosevelt Colvin returned. He hadn't played since being cut by Houston in training camp after New England allowed him to leave as a free agent after last season.

Bruschi returned to Boston after Sunday's game and was examined, although no results were released. Belichick had no updates on the injuries. The next indication of the severity of the injuries would come Wednesday when the Patriots issue their first practice participation report of the week.

They also played Sunday without linebackers Pierre Woods, Thomas' replacement who has a jaw injury, and Vince Redd, suffering from an ankle injury. There was another brief scare when 12-year veteran linebacker Mike Vrabel was shaken up. But he missed just one play before returning to lead the defense.

Belichick said Vrabel, defensive end Richard Seymour and safety Brandon Meriweather kept the defenders working together.

"Those guys are involved with a lot of communication and adjustments we had to make, by nature of their position," Belichick said. "They were really solid that way, especially Mike as the signal-caller. He's very good, probably as good as anybody could possibly be in that situation with the number of things he has to handle."

With all the injuries, defensive linemen Mike Wright and LeKevin Smith played more than expected.

"They play behind some very good players and I think they've learned from them and" defensive line coach Pepper Johnson, Belichick said. "When they've gotten a chance to play in the past, they've done a solid job for us."

They may have to keep doing it against the Raiders on Sunday and in the final two games -- at home against Arizona and at Buffalo.

Miami would win the AFC East by winning its remaining three games against San Francisco, Kansas City and the Jets. The Jets would take the division with victories in their three games against Buffalo, Seattle and Miami. The Dolphins and Jets currently have the tiebreaker edge if either ties the Patriots for the division's best record.

A wild-card berth appears to be even a longer shot for New England, which trails Indianapolis and Baltimore by one game in that race.

For now, Belichick is focusing on Sunday's game against the struggling Raiders, not on what his team must do to make the playoffs.

"I'm sure if we do, somebody will let us know," he said.
:(

Lots of other injuries as well. Hillis and Frerotte both out for the season as well. Denver on to their 8th RB now with a BJGE-type player in him being an undrafted free agent.

Culpepper possibly out, Ross and Jacobs likely out in NY and Jags WR Jones suspended for final 3 weeks.

pauldrulez 09-12-2008 07:29 PM

Oh, and for the Number 1 pick for the Lions we have:

Stafford x 2
Oher x 1.

Oh, Saxon. Where's the quote gone in your signature :hi: :hi:

:lux:

Latvian Eagle 09-12-2008 07:31 PM

Speaking of number 1 picks.

I had known for ages that San Diego drafted Eli Manning number one and then traded him for Rivers... But what I didn't know was that Eli had already said he didn't want to play for the Chargers even if they did pick him...

My quite obvious question is... WHY?

pauldrulez 09-12-2008 07:40 PM

Why he didnt want to go to San Diego?

or Why did the Chargers pick him?

Either way, its worked out for the Chargers, Rivers is a better QB (IMHO of course although inconsistent) and they got a lot of picks out of it at the time.

saxoneagle 09-12-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Oh, and for the Number 1 pick for the Lions we have:

Stafford x 2
Oher x 1.

Oh, Saxon. Where's the quote gone in your signature :hi: :hi:

:lux:


I removed my entire sig. I couldn't think of anything inspiring to add so I deleted it. You should consider the same with your piece of tripe ;) :D

saxoneagle 09-12-2008 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle
Speaking of number 1 picks.

I had known for ages that San Diego drafted Eli Manning number one and then traded him for Rivers... But what I didn't know was that Eli had already said he didn't want to play for the Chargers even if they did pick him...

My quite obvious question is... WHY?

His daddy didn't like the set-up and coaching in San Diego and basically told Eli it would be a bad career move.

IIRC, the Giants and Chargers had already agreed what they were going to do with the first two picks. Not sure why the Chargers didn't just pick Rivers although I'm guessing they got something else in return. - Appears they hadn't agreed anything! LOL!

Never trust Wiki, but most of this seems accurate enough:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers-Manning_trade

pauldrulez 09-12-2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by saxoneagle
I removed my entire sig. I couldn't think of anything inspiring to add so I deleted it. You should consider the same with your piece of tripe ;) :D

I'm fine.

Advertises my unused but accurate blog ;)

The PatsRadio website :)

How old I am and the fact that I was a betting masters champion for the Olympics

Latvian Eagle 09-12-2008 07:55 PM

I'm sure from what I understand that NY weren't number 2? But I agree I just don't understand why Chargers just didn't take Rivers in the first place.

Although I don't agree he is better than Eli! :hi:

saxoneagle 09-12-2008 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle
I'm sure from what I understand that NY weren't number 2? But I agree I just don't understand why Chargers just didn't take Rivers in the first place.

Although I don't agree he is better than Eli! :hi:

Giants had 4th pick. Eli was the best player so Chargers knew they'd get something else for him even if he didn't sign with them.

Latvian Eagle 09-12-2008 08:02 PM

Fair enough! I laughed when I read he held up the Chargers shirt but refused to wear the cap!

Isn't it generally a really poor move to reject a deal anyway? Fortunately the Giants wanted Eli, because generally if you turn a team down, the next year no one will go near you?!

Strathclyde Eagle 09-12-2008 08:08 PM

He got lots of stick for not signing with the Chargers, but in the end it has worked out well for both teams.

I think that might have been the first draft I saw live. I particularly remember that the analysts were starting to think a San Diego-New York trade might not happen. I'm pretty sure the trade was only announced just before the fifth pick (San Diego drafted first, the Giants drafted fifth).

Ultimately I think the trade worked pretty well for both teams. I'm pretty sure that San Diego got Merriman out of the trade, while the Giants got a QB who won them the Super Bowl. At the time though the general consensus was that the Chargers got the better deal.


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