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aj4england 16-04-2020 11:07 AM

Agreed - as a Cardinals fan i was chuffed. Looks like the Texans have gone for Cobb and Cooks to pair with Fuller and "if" fit and back to his best, David Johnson is a very good receiving back.

Worth discussing the draft that has snuck up on me? For me the NFL is the only thing giving me my sport fix that I need!

Tripod 10 16-04-2020 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by aj4england (Post 15184978)
Agreed - as a Cardinals fan i was chuffed. Looks like the Texans have gone for Cobb and Cooks to pair with Fuller and "if" fit and back to his best, David Johnson is a very good receiving back.

Worth discussing the draft that has snuck up on me? For me the NFL is the only thing giving me my sport fix that I need!

As a Cowboys fan I was disappointed to see Cobb go under FA. He had a solid season last as a No.3 receiver year and with a misfiring QB, although I do think the Texans are paying over the odds.
Looking forward to the Draft next week, gonna be strange seeing it done virtually. Hope Sky still cover at least the first day.

Crozzy71 16-04-2020 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Tripod 10 (Post 15184999)
As a Cowboys fan I was disappointed to see Cobb go under FA. He had a solid season last as a No.3 receiver year and with a misfiring QB, although I do think the Texans are paying over the odds.
Looking forward to the Draft next week, gonna be strange seeing it done virtually. Hope Sky still cover at least the first day.

I think they're desperate for any live content so will hopefully show a lot of it.

Crozzy71 16-04-2020 11:38 AM

Here you go - all 3 days !!

https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/3...an-ever-before

GB2506 16-04-2020 11:59 AM

Really looking forward to the draft, like others have said NFL is the only real sporting fix at the moment.

As a Pats fan i'm even more excited, i'm one of the few who was okay with moving on from Brady and looking forward to what the future holds. I think we will be in for a QB but don't think it will be in the first round. I think they are really high on Stidham who we drafted last year, whether we bring in a Newton or Dalton so he can develop another year will be interesting to see. We also brought back Hoyer but cant see him being a serious candidate for starting week 1. Picking at 23 I cant see any of the 1st round prospects being available (maybe Love but he's seen as a project behind an established QB which we dont have) and I cant see us trading up, much more likely we will trade down. We have need for a playmaker at LB after losing Van Noy, Collins and Roberts in free agency. I have seen quite a few mock drafts going with LB or DE/Edge Rusher with the pick. Still desperate for a TE but doesnt look like this TE class is all that great. Also some depth on the DL and at WR.

Also interested to see what we do with Joe Thuney. We franchise tagged him but lots of rumours circulating he may still be a trade candidate as we dont want to pay him the money long term. Would be a strange move as having him return and Andrews coming back at Centre it would have been good to have a solid OL for the new QB.

Just some thoughts there, looking forward to the draft from Rodger Goodell's basement, will be interesting to see.

CP-RJW 16-04-2020 05:15 PM

I’m looking forward to the draft too. Well, excited and scared. Huge draft for the Vikings, lots of picks, and could be a real overhaul.

aj4england 16-04-2020 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GB2506 (Post 15185036)
Really looking forward to the draft, like others have said NFL is the only real sporting fix at the moment.

As a Pats fan i'm even more excited, i'm one of the few who was okay with moving on from Brady and looking forward to what the future holds. I think we will be in for a QB but don't think it will be in the first round. I think they are really high on Stidham who we drafted last year, whether we bring in a Newton or Dalton so he can develop another year will be interesting to see. We also brought back Hoyer but cant see him being a serious candidate for starting week 1. Picking at 23 I cant see any of the 1st round prospects being available (maybe Love but he's seen as a project behind an established QB which we dont have) and I cant see us trading up, much more likely we will trade down. We have need for a playmaker at LB after losing Van Noy, Collins and Roberts in free agency. I have seen quite a few mock drafts going with LB or DE/Edge Rusher with the pick. Still desperate for a TE but doesnt look like this TE class is all that great. Also some depth on the DL and at WR.

Also interested to see what we do with Joe Thuney. We franchise tagged him but lots of rumours circulating he may still be a trade candidate as we dont want to pay him the money long term. Would be a strange move as having him return and Andrews coming back at Centre it would have been good to have a solid OL for the new QB.

Just some thoughts there, looking forward to the draft from Rodger Goodell's basement, will be interesting to see.

I would be surprised if the Pats took a Qb in Rd 2. Unless, it works out that one of the Top 5 drops to them. Otherwise I dont see the value in using that Rd 2 pick this year. Its a rare and unique position for the pats to be in. Id imagine that they may be tempted to trade up to try and get one of the QBs if they think he is their future guy. Love seems the most likely fit to me for the Pats. TE is a clear need but would be more inclined to go for another RB for BB's system, or hope that one of the better receivers fall in their lap. Edleman or Sanu must also be ones that the Pats may be looking to move on if they could get some value back for them.

Interested to see what my Cardinals do. We added Hopkins in he trade but with a high pick it must also be tempting to try and get one of the "big 3 WR" to compliment him, Kirk and Fitzgerald (pick as a Fitzgerald) long term replacement though really O-Line is what we need. Potential trade away of Pat Peterson (I wouldnt be against) for picks may be something we look to do too.

elliott 16-04-2020 11:19 PM

Pats shop Edelman and take my boy Malcolm Perry. Get it in the books.

pauldrulez 19-04-2020 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by elliott (Post 15185769)
Pats shop Edelman and take my boy Malcolm Perry. Get it in the books.

Iíd say itís a guarantee that either Edelman or Thuney are traded. Edelman has value to the Bucs.

Anyway, I was bored and did a mock draft with trades using: https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com...raft-simulator

Ended up with this for the Patriots:
42 - Cole Kmet, TE
67 - Jalen Hurts, QB
73 - Jonah Jackson, OL
87 - Curtis Weaver, Edge
98 - Adam Trautman, TE
125 - Rashard Lawrence, DL
150 - Anfernee Jennings, Edge
198 - Rodrigo Blankenship, K
219 - LíJarius Sneed, S
239 - Jacob Phillips, LB

I think Iíd be pretty happy with this. Iíll probably do a couple of others without a QB and maybe one with a trade up too.

aj4england 20-04-2020 10:30 AM

Hurts to the Pats seems like a fit to me. The Lions and the Raiders and Dolphins hold the key to this trade as have picks that could alter round 1 and 2 in terms of who they take, trading up and down and who they actually rate the best. Ranked number 4 out of the lot, i feel that Justin Jefferson could turn out to be one of the better WR in this class.

LLCOOLSTEVE 21-04-2020 10:14 PM

Gronk signing for the Buc’s eh....

pauldrulez 21-04-2020 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LLCOOLSTEVE (Post 15192075)
Gronk signing for the Bucís eh....

Pats get a 4th for a player who would never have played for them again, so BB isnít going to be hugely concerned.

If they could get a 2nd for Thuney, theyíre back in a good position draft wise.

Iíd be trying to get a pick from Tampa for Edelman.

Rebuild from the bottom. Get younger.

CP-RJW 21-04-2020 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez (Post 15192140)
Pats get a 4th for a player who would never have played for them again, so BB isnít going to be hugely concerned.

If they could get a 2nd for Thuney, theyíre back in a good position draft wise.

Iíd be trying to get a pick from Tampa for Edelman.

Rebuild from the bottom. Get younger.

Think Stidham is the QB answer?

GB2506 22-04-2020 10:41 AM

As a Pats fan it will hurt watching Brady to Gronk in a different uniform but this is a new era. We need to rebuild though and get younger, big draft for us this year but also free agency next off season when we have around the $90million mark in cap space.

aj4england 22-04-2020 10:48 AM

I think that the Pats will run with Stidham this year. He doesnt have too many weapons around him but the Pats dont have any cap space to address that this year so may as well run with him and see what he can do. You would imagine that the Pats will look for some skill positions, namely a WR to develop alongside N'Keal Harry. Could use a TE as could lots of teams but not many in this years draft so may hold out on that. A lot will depends on NE defense again this year.

Winning the divison will be tougher as the Bills have improved, though hard to predict Jets or Miami, even with draft picks being any better than 8-8.

aj4england 22-04-2020 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez (Post 15192140)
Pats get a 4th for a player who would never have played for them again, so BB isnít going to be hugely concerned.

If they could get a 2nd for Thuney, theyíre back in a good position draft wise.

Iíd be trying to get a pick from Tampa for Edelman.

Rebuild from the bottom. Get younger.

What would Edleman command. A 2nd?

GB2506 22-04-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aj4england (Post 15192509)
What would Edleman command. A 2nd?

34 in May, played through a lot of injuries last season and also had the ACL injury just a couple of seasons ago. Maybe a 2nd at a push more likely another 3rd

GB2506 22-04-2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by aj4england (Post 15192507)
I think that the Pats will run with Stidham this year. He doesnt have too many weapons around him but the Pats dont have any cap space to address that this year so may as well run with him and see what he can do. You would imagine that the Pats will look for some skill positions, namely a WR to develop alongside N'Keal Harry. Could use a TE as could lots of teams but not many in this years draft so may hold out on that. A lot will depends on NE defense again this year.

Winning the divison will be tougher as the Bills have improved, though hard to predict Jets or Miami, even with draft picks being any better than 8-8.

Agree with that. Think they like Stidham and he showed a lot of promise last pre-season (yes I know itís only pre-season). Níkeal Harry needs a big year 2 jump and stay injury free. A 9-7 this season with one eye on next is my prediction. Lots of Deshaun Watson talk and him being a free agent. We will have huge cap space going into 2021....

CP-RJW 22-04-2020 09:50 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWOSwCCW...jpg&name=large

aj4england 23-04-2020 09:31 AM

Haha quite like that as a Cardinals fan :D


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