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pauldrulez 17-03-2009 07:23 PM

Jets and Bills also in there for Cutler.

Might as well send all the talent over to the AFC East :D

If I was Buffalo, i'd stick with Edwards.

I want the Jets to sign him and Favre to then come back and put them $10m over the cap ;)

Kaberle15 18-03-2009 12:55 AM

If Favre comes back I might have to fly over there and give him a slap. Enough is enough!

I just can't believe how quickly this Cutler situation has escalated. Not surprised that the Jets are sniffing around, but Denver have really messed this up.

Benzhiyi 18-03-2009 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
And I would like to formally welcome Julius Peppers to the New England Patriots.

Sorry, can you repeat that?

nookiebear 18-03-2009 12:34 PM

Lots more rumours today about the Skins going for Cutler

This has got to be the most laughable of the lot though.

The deal would see Jay Cutler, Tony Scheffler and Cleveland’s 3rd round pick going to Washington.

Jason Campbell and Chris Cooley Going to Cleveland and one of Denver’s 5th round picks.

Brady Quinn going from Cleveland to Denver and LaRon Landry from Washington will be going to Denver. And we thought that the Bailey-Portis trade was big. Our source says that teams will announce the deal at 5pm this evening.


Campbell's in the last year of his contract and the Skins haven't offered him a new one, hence the rumours, but I can't see us giving up two of our top players for a QB who's yet to win a play-off game.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...g-and-2-drafts

It's a wind-up anyway, but I wouldn't put anything past the Skins FO :)

jazman 18-03-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nookiebear
Lots of Skins fans on the boards want a Draft Day trade for Cutler...

I want to stick with Campbell meself and think Zorn will as well, but nothing would surprise me when it comes to the chimps running the tea party in DC

West Coast Offense QB and all that

I would prefer Campbell over Cutler I think, he's showing some promise even if he didn't completely fulfull that last season. Give him time, but that maybe the key, they don't want to?

nookiebear 18-03-2009 01:43 PM

i agree. He was hampered last season by a bad O-line and teams double-teaming Moss and Cooley. He had no-one else to throw to really

Strathclyde Eagle 18-03-2009 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzhiyi
Sorry, can you repeat that?

Julius Peppers, who Mike Lombardi says is owed $17m next season, and the Patriots, who Mike Lombardi says refuse to pay anyone more than what Tom Brady gets, which next year is $12m.

So if this happens, either Mike Lombardi is a liar or Julius Peppers doesn't need $5m.

pauldrulez 19-03-2009 12:09 AM

I'll clear up what I put. I'll try and do the whole situation in quick, short sections. And quote it so it takes up less space.

Quote:

Monday:
Carucci says Peppers in talks with NE as he is allowed to do with his tender unsigned.
Carucci also mentions the #34 pick being involved in the deal with the Panthers $500k under the cap before signing rookies. Also mentions other inside dealings with the Patriots some of which have come to pass. As well as a big want for Rey Maualuga.
Tuesday:
Schefter: 99% that Peppers will not sign. Says this on local Boston radio. But says 50-50 that Taylor will sign.
Carucci then calls in to PFWinProgress (official PatsRadio) and says his sources maintain the story and the reports out of Carolina backup that something is going on.
Carucci also says that Schefter was 95% that Cassel would not be traded.
Wednesday:
Carucci: The timeframe for the deal to take place is between the owners meetings (next week) and the Draft.
ESPN discuss the reported deal and NFL.com have more news, columns and discussions on it.
My thoughts:
Peppers would not get the money for the Franchise Tag if he comes to New England. He is coming here as an unproven 3-4 OLB and therefore does not get the money of an All-Pro 4-3 DE.
I am sceptical due to our position under the cap. I make it around $7m under the cap. But in restructuring Brady and 2 other players (whose names I forgot), another $9m can be created.

My next theory which has been talked about is the Uncapped Year in 2010.
There is thoughts that you tie up other teams FAs in 2009.
You then re-sign your main guys in 2010. Which for the Patriots includes Vince Wilfork, Logan Mankins and Stephen Gostkowski. (Note: I don't include Seymour) ;)

My final thought is that if I have a choice of Julius Peppers on a $12m per year contract over 7 years or Jason Taylor, our #34 pick and only $5-6m a year or so. There is no comparison for me.
I take Taylor for 2 years in a heartbeat. I then draft Connor Barwin who is a DE/OLB hybrid and let him learn the system behind Taylor and Thomas and then unleash him when Taylor goes.

My 3 other comments of the day:
1. Denver fans, blame Bernard Pollard for the mess that you have.
2. Why do Carolina want #34 rather than #23?
3. Check out the link below for an EXCLUSIVE 10 minute conversation with NFL Draft 2009 Prospect Connor Barwin from Cincinnati and myself.
http://pfwinprogress.com/forum/viewt...t&sd=a&start=0
And yes, it is legit and did come from Facebook :D

Benzhiyi 19-03-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
1. Denver fans, blame Bernard Pollard for the mess that you have.

:rolleyes:

This is the most tenuous single thing you have ever posted.

pauldrulez 19-03-2009 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Benzhiyi
:rolleyes:

This is the most tenuous single thing you have ever posted.

a) Its a joke.

b) Did you not watch Total Access yesterday? There was a whole joke feature on how it all came back to him

nookiebear 19-03-2009 03:15 PM

hohoho, and I thought the UK transfer window was silly season

Cutler to Redskins in three-way deal? Cassel to Denver?

The Philadelphia Inquirer reported the Washington Redskins are trying to land unhappy quarterback Jay Cutler from the Denver Broncos. According to the report, the rumored deal would also include the Kansas City Chiefs.

According to the report, Cutler would end up in Washington, Matt Cassel in Denver and Jason Campbell in Kansas City.

According to The Inquirer, the 'Skins are denying they have any intention of dumping Campbell, which shows they were paying attention when the Broncos got themselves into this mess to begin with. New coach Josh McDaniels, formerly QB coach and offensive coordinator for the Patriots, actively tried to trade Cutler for Cassel last month, didn't succeed, then lied about it.

Source: Philly.com

pauldrulez 19-03-2009 05:20 PM

KC must be getting something as well.

Washington get Cutler.
Denver get Cassel and something.
KC get Campbell and something.

Say Washington give up a 2nd and Campbell for Cutler.
Denver get a 2nd and give up a 3rd and Campbell for Cassel.
KC get a 3rd and Campbell for Cassel.

Or something like that because the 3 QBs are different abilities.

nookiebear 19-03-2009 05:23 PM

I just don't see it happening. And I don't see the Skins giving up any more draft picks. We've only got four picks as it is.

And I don't want us to give up picks next season

pauldrulez 19-03-2009 05:45 PM

True, the Skins never seem to use the picks but use Free Agency a lot more than other teams do.

The amount that the Pats have been in FA has surprised me. We have 9 picks now as well as a likely 3 Compensatory picks ranging from Round 3 (Samuel) to 2 5ths (Stallworth and others).

So, I see us trading up or into next year as we don't have enough roster spots for all the rookies.

ardeo 19-03-2009 05:48 PM

Philly have loads of draft picks (a million) but only 3 players :(

nookiebear 19-03-2009 06:25 PM

These trade rumours make me laugh. Who's to say the Chiefs want to give up Cassel?

Do the Chiefs actually want Campbell?

Lot of straw clutching

jazman 19-03-2009 06:28 PM

Hilarious. About as silly as when the rumour first surface about Lombardo joining Palace ... :o

pauldrulez 19-03-2009 06:30 PM

Precisely.

No way Cassel goes anywhere unless the Chiefs get a first I would say.

Although unless i'm mistaken, Cassel hasn't got a new contract and still has the $14m contract for one year. So if he refused to play ball with the Chiefs and wants to go to Josh, he could screw them and say he wants to go and will only stay in KC for one year.

pauldrulez 19-03-2009 09:50 PM

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Eric Mangini was fired as the New York Jets’ coach after a disappointing conclusion to the 2008 season, but he could become a key factor in what would be the team’s biggest acquisition since, well, Brett Favre.

Close to one year after he welcomed Favre’s short stay in the Big Apple, Mangini could help facilitate a deal that would put disgruntled Denver Broncos QB Jay Cutler in green and white, Rich Cimini writes in Thursday’s New York Daily News.

Cimini suggests that the Jets have two of the three pieces required to make a move for Cutler — the salary-cap room and the draft picks. But the third element, a tradeable quarterback, is something that might require the help of a third team. Enter Mangini and his new team, the Cleveland Browns, who Cimini notes has two starting quarterbacks.

“The former Jets coach has two viable quarterbacks, Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson, neither of whom has received an endorsement from Mangini. Quinn might be appealing to Broncos coach Josh McDaniels because he played at Notre Dame under Charlie Weis, who used to work with McDaniels in New England. Quinn is well-versed in the Weis/Patriots offensive system, which McDaniels will use in Denver.

“That means the Browns could emerge as the third team in a potential three-way trade. The main components of a three-way deal would be the Jets getting Cutler, the Broncos getting Quinn and the Browns getting a premium draft pick (or picks) to help their rebuilding process. Without Mangini, the Jets would be hard-pressed to swing the deal.”
Next it will be:
Browns, get picks
Jets, get Cutler
Chiefs, get Brohm
Broncos get Cassel
Bucs get Romo
Patriots get McDaniels and Pioli
Cowboys get O'Connell
Packers get Favre
in a blockbuster 8-team trade.

(Check it, I think it works out) ;)

Benzhiyi 20-03-2009 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jazman
Hey fella. How was the trip? I've always fancied going to Japan myself ....

Basically incredible. My photo diaries speak for themselves:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...0&l=98d491c4d6
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...0&l=82e1962cbf

Probably my third favourite city in the world now after Boston and Vancouver. Desperate to go back.


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