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Grim Reaper 01-11-2007 08:56 PM

Probablyy right but there's one team who's suddenly back in devastating form and that's the best team of last season - the Chargers.

Three thumping victories in a row following a 1-3 start (bear in mind two of those losses came on the road against teams with a 13-1 record so no shame there) has got me excited.

Jets and Giants are my teams but I also closely follow San Diego simply because LT is superhuman (a power Tom Brady has evidently acquired!!) Obviously they're yet to reach the prowess of the Pats and Colts...for now.

Remember the Pats went to Qualcomm as underdogs in January, were outplayed yet somehow won. Wouldn't surprise me if the Chargers managed to plot their revenge at some stage in the play offs, especially if they carry on recent form.

The best team usually wins the Superbowl.....but it's not always the case. Just ask the '98 Vikings or the '06 Chargers.

Grim Reaper 01-11-2007 09:02 PM

Just talked myself into a bet with that last post.

That said, my effort at trading on Betfair this year has been dire!

Took San Fran at 50 - now 530
Took Jets at 55 - now 1000 (at least I managed to trade a chunk of this off pre-season at 50)
New Orleans at 17 - now 50
Denver at 22 - now 200

and even Dallas which I took at 7.8 are now 14!

Tactic worked well last year with 70 on Indy at 8.00 (we'll forget the 40 on Carolina!!!)

saxoneagle 01-11-2007 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
Probablyy right but there's one team who's suddenly back in devastating form and that's the best team of last season - the Chargers.

Three thumping victories in a row following a 1-3 start (bear in mind two of those losses came on the road against teams with a 13-1 record so no shame there) has got me excited.

Jets and Giants are my teams but I also closely follow San Diego simply because LT is superhuman (a power Tom Brady has evidently acquired!!) Obviously they're yet to reach the prowess of the Pats and Colts...for now.

Remember the Pats went to Qualcomm as underdogs in January, were outplayed yet somehow won. Wouldn't surprise me if the Chargers managed to plot their revenge at some stage in the play offs, especially if they carry on recent form.

The best team usually wins the Superbowl.....but it's not always the case. Just ask the '98 Vikings or the '06 Chargers.

Agreed. Similarly the Saints have got their season back on track and could the NFC Superbowl candidate. Nowhere near as strong as hlaf the AFC though!!!

saxoneagle 01-11-2007 09:10 PM

Looking forward to seeing Maroney back for a full match and seeing what NE can do with a decent (not great) running game to back up the passing game.

Also, will the defence of the Pats last the season? It's not getting any younger... Seau, Bruschi, Vrabel, etc, etc

Strathclyde Eagle 01-11-2007 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
Probablyy right but there's one team who's suddenly back in devastating form and that's the best team of last season - the Chargers.

Three thumping victories in a row following a 1-3 start (bear in mind two of those losses came on the road against teams with a 13-1 record so no shame there) has got me excited.

Jets and Giants are my teams but I also closely follow San Diego simply because LT is superhuman (a power Tom Brady has evidently acquired!!) Obviously they're yet to reach the prowess of the Pats and Colts...for now.

Remember the Pats went to Qualcomm as underdogs in January, were outplayed yet somehow won. Wouldn't surprise me if the Chargers managed to plot their revenge at some stage in the play offs, especially if they carry on recent form.

The best team usually wins the Superbowl.....but it's not always the case. Just ask the '98 Vikings or the '06 Chargers.

Quote:

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
Just talked myself into a bet with that last post.
I'll wish you well with it, but fear you might end up hating Norv Turner by season's end. :(

Grim Reaper 01-11-2007 10:39 PM

Maybe true but I challenge you to listen to a complete Chargers commentary with Hank Bauer and Josh Lewin and tell me that you're not hooked on San Diego and their chances. These guys could make Palace sound good!!

Dave Nunn 01-11-2007 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Dave, who's your favourite ever Patriot?

Brady, Moss, Bruschi, Vinatieri?

Or Grogan, Morgan, Tippett?

Please ask "who?". :D

Bonus points if your actual answer is Rich Camarillo, and someone can find online footage of his 62 yard punt in Super Bowl XX that bounced and rolled for about thirty yards on the Superdome Astroturf. :cool:

Grogan!! He should have started over Tony Eason. Though we would still have lost to the Fridge. Beating the Fish in the AFC game was good enough for me! :p:

Strathclyde Eagle 01-11-2007 11:51 PM

My best mate at the time (the two of us were just ten) hated Grogan. He despised his long neck for some reason.

And what was that thing he had taped to his arm? Looked like a wider than usual lollypop stick or something. Very odd. (Typical, Google Images lets me down for once.)

Benzhiyi 01-11-2007 11:59 PM

As an NFL fan, I'm hoping Sunday is an open contest, a shootout between the two best quarterbacks in the NFL, a spectacular occasion where both teams leave everything on the fie...

Actually, screw that. I hope the Colts piss it. The real sportsmen of New England already have their world title. ;) :lux:

jazman 02-11-2007 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by Benzhiyi
As an NFL fan, I'm hoping Sunday is an open contest, a shootout between the two best quarterbacks in the NFL
Bold but arguable statement, but I see what you're saying.

Benzhiyi 02-11-2007 10:37 AM

I was only taking the mick... but in all seriousness, there's surely no-one better than Brady and Manning right now?

Brees is up there but had an awful first four weeks, Palmer's solid but not on their level, Favre's all-time accomplishments are much deserved but he's not the player he was (though having a great season)... then you're down to Roethlisberger, Rivers, Hasselbeck: all great QBs but too inconsistent to be considered as good as Brady or Manning.

Grim Reaper 02-11-2007 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
a shootout between the two best quarterbacks in the NFL, a spectacular occasion
Manning (that's Eli) versus Pennington already happened in Week 5. And yes, it was a shootout as the 35-24 scoreline will confirm. :p

Strathclyde Eagle 02-11-2007 12:03 PM

:D

That's the Chad Pennington who's riding the pine this week. :)

nookiebear 02-11-2007 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by elliott
Agreed.

Taking out the knee is wrong.

A team have earnt those four downs and should be able to use them how they please.

But I also agree with icing the kicker. I see nothing wrong with that.


With regards running up the score, when your miles ahead why not throw in your reserves? If then you are still racking up points, that fine in my books. Surely it's a no brainer, the one time players can fight for a starting berth.

I just think the excitement of NFL would increase even more if teams had to run it or throw it instead of taking a knee. Imagine some of the result's you'd get. How exciting is it when a defense causes a fumble? Imagine that with less than a minute to go. :)

saxoneagle 02-11-2007 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by nookiebear
I just think the excitement of NFL would increase even more if teams had to run it or throw it instead of taking a knee. Imagine some of the result's you'd get. How exciting is it when a defense causes a fumble? Imagine that with less than a minute to go. :)
You mean like the Bus fumbling in the red zone a couple of years back and nearly costing the Steelers the match? :D

Strathclyde Eagle 02-11-2007 12:53 PM

Now that was a crazy game. Vanderjagt's FG attempt after that was somewhat reminiscent of that Andy Gray free kick that was featured in the Eagle Eye book.

jazman 02-11-2007 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
I was only taking the mick... but in all seriousness, there's surely no-one better than Brady and Manning right now?

Brees is up there but had an awful first four weeks, Palmer's solid but not on their level, Favre's all-time accomplishments are much deserved but he's not the player he was (though having a great season)... then you're down to Roethlisberger, Rivers, Hasselbeck: all great QBs but too inconsistent to be considered as good as Brady or Manning.

I would add Tony Romo to the list of in form QBs :p

Grim Reaper 02-11-2007 03:14 PM

Here you go

Forget all the hype about Indy v New England

THIS is a finish......

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/2...y-vs-millsaps/

saxoneagle 02-11-2007 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
Here you go

Forget all the hype about Indy v New England

THIS is a finish......

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/2...y-vs-millsaps/

I've watched that numerous times now and it is amazing.

Benzhiyi 02-11-2007 04:44 PM

Wow. Best play ever!

This runs it close, if only for its surreal finish:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAxu9Rfm77M


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