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Malaga Eagle 27-06-2021 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle (Post 15866171)
Its a bar restaurant called Olivias in a little town called La Cala and is owned by a z lister who, apparently, was on Towie. Is marketed as "Marbs", but Marbella is over 20km away.

My wife went there yesterday to meet a friend and was outraged at the prices. This 12 euro water arrived, opened, at the table and was poured for everyone. Now water is usually a freebie or is sold for around a euro a bottle in restaurants. When she saw the bill she couldnt believe it.

Cheapest pizza is 17 euro, burgers range from 20 to 50 euro.

Total rip off, and mugs pay it.

So the fire didn't close them down?
I thought it had been destroyed.
There is a much better restaurant called El Olivo

which is sort of behind the BP garage towards the beach.
Oh and they did have Tyson Fury in there one night:jerkit: Olivia's that is!!

Pidster 27-06-2021 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle (Post 15866171)
Its a bar restaurant called Olivias in a little town called La Cala and is owned by a z lister who, apparently, was on Towie. Is marketed as "Marbs", but Marbella is over 20km away.

My wife went there yesterday to meet a friend and was outraged at the prices. This 12 euro water arrived, opened, at the table and was poured for everyone. Now water is usually a freebie or is sold for around a euro a bottle in restaurants. When she saw the bill she couldnt believe it.

Cheapest pizza is 17 euro, burgers range from 20 to 50 euro.

Total rip off, and mugs pay it.


I’m guessing you get Channel 5 in that part of Spain.

I H8 CWEED 27-06-2021 07:53 PM

When Rio Ferdinand incorrectly says “them” instead of “those”.... “one of them ones”

Malaga Eagle 27-06-2021 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by I H8 CWEED (Post 15866638)
When Rio Ferdinand incorrectly says “them” instead of “those”.... “one of them ones”

What "one of those ones"lol:supergrin:

Reps AJ 27-06-2021 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by I H8 CWEED (Post 15866638)
When Rio Ferdinand incorrectly says “them” instead of “those”.... “one of them ones”

Could have stopped at Rio Ferdinand

Nostrils 27-06-2021 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WLYWLYAWYPWF (Post 15866074)
If you go to privacy settings you can disable it but you can't see if people have read yours then either.

You were indeed correct, the thing I remembered was the 'online' bit at the top. They also need to bin that.

Herr Colonpharter 27-06-2021 09:57 PM

TV commercials with piss poor dubbing cos they can't be arsed to make one with English dialogue.

cappuccinoeagle 27-06-2021 11:03 PM

Sam Matterface again- does he ever stop talking? Presumably gets paid by the word.
Eden Hazard- such a drama queen- reminiscent of his Chelsea days.

Maidstoned Eagle 28-06-2021 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr Colonpharter (Post 15867316)
TV commercials with piss poor dubbing cos they can't be arsed to make one with English dialogue.

If it's a product available around Europe it doesn't make economical sense to make an advert for each country. Also look out for car commercials with number plates that can be mirrored so the image can have a driver on the left or right.

Herr Colonpharter 28-06-2021 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle (Post 15868286)
If it's a product available around Europe it doesn't make economical sense to make an advert for each country. Also look out for car commercials with number plates that can be mirrored so the image can have a driver on the left or right.

Wouldn't expect one specifically for all countries but given the culprits are usually seriously minted global brands, the size of the UK market + level of foreigners who can readily speak English I'd have thought it would justify one?

art malice 28-06-2021 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bipe (Post 15866297)
"Cry more / stop crying"

"Living rent free in your head"

"That's it. That's the tweet"

"WrItInG tHiNgS wItH jUmBlEd UpPeRcAsE aNd LoWeRcAsE lEtTeRs"

Etc etc and so on and so forth. Just stop it all of you.

Give your head a wobble

Olympian2 28-06-2021 10:43 AM

Making history

Making history’ is finding America, landing the 1st man on the moon, being the first woman UK PM, knocking down the Berlin Wall.

Making history’ is not ‘being the 1st England team to beat Germany in a knock-out game in a major tournament since 1966’ any more than I made history this morning by being ‘The first 52 year old whose name begins with G to have porridge for breakfast in the CB24 postcode on a Monday morning after scoring 56 points & finishing 2nd in the Duke of Wellington pub quiz the previous evening’

Olympian2 28-06-2021 10:43 AM

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Maidstoned Eagle 28-06-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pidster (Post 15866626)
I’m guessing you get Channel 5 in that part of Spain.

Dunno, Piddles. We don't have English telly boxes.

Maidstoned Eagle 28-06-2021 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr Colonpharter (Post 15868330)
Wouldn't expect one specifically for all countries but given the culprits are usually seriously minted global brands, the size of the UK market + level of foreigners who can readily speak English I'd have thought it would justify one?

There's a reason they are "seriously minted" and this is one of them.

Maidstoned Eagle 28-06-2021 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Malaga Eagle (Post 15866448)
So the fire didn't close them down?
I thought it had been destroyed.
There is a much better restaurant called El Olivo

which is sort of behind the BP garage towards the beach.
!

The fire that gutted the bar area and didn't touch the kitchen? Closed them for a week, now pretty much fully renovated.

I know El Olivo, nice place. The BP garage has a good restaurant too.

RazorsEdge 28-06-2021 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 15868512)
Making history

Making history’ is finding America, landing the 1st man on the moon, being the first woman UK PM, knocking down the Berlin Wall.

Making history’ is not ‘being the 1st England team to beat Germany in a knock-out game in a major tournament since 1966’ any more than I made history this morning by being ‘The first 52 year old whose name begins with G to have porridge for breakfast in the CB24 postcode on a Monday morning after scoring 56 points & finishing 2nd in the Duke of Wellington pub quiz the previous evening’

Technically Southgate is right, this is the new Wembley and if I remember correctly we lost to the Germans in the last game that was played in the old Wembley and Keegan resigned from his job as a manager in the loo……this is the new Wembley stadium and we have a chance to make history or carry on from where Hamman scored for Germans….

Isle of Wight 28-06-2021 09:58 PM

Win, lose, draw game abandoned/not started due to aliens having a big poo in the middle of the pitch, isn’t history being made whatever happens?

Maz 28-06-2021 09:59 PM

You made history just by posting that.


Of course it may not feature in any Simon Schama doc though.

cranesparkeagle 28-06-2021 10:10 PM

Being told that carrier bags for supermarket deliveries will now cost 80 p a shot. Whose bloody bright idea was that

GorBlimey 28-06-2021 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cranesparkeagle (Post 15870075)
Being told that carrier bags for supermarket deliveries will now cost 80 p a shot. Whose bloody bright idea was that


Anyone who thinks plastic bags are a f*cking polluting nightmare.


£1 a pop would encourage people further to seek alternatives.

cranesparkeagle 28-06-2021 11:02 PM

extortion rebellion. So be it . No more bags. \Supermarkets get enough of my money as it is

RazorsEdge 28-06-2021 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Isle of Wight (Post 15870046)
Win, lose, draw game abandoned/not started due to aliens having a big poo in the middle of the pitch, isn’t history being made whatever happens?

Yes

Reps AJ 29-06-2021 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cranesparkeagle (Post 15870299)
extortion rebellion. So be it . No more bags. \Supermarkets get enough of my money as it is

Think that's kinda the point

Olympian2 29-06-2021 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15870048)
You made history just by posting that.


Of course it may not feature in any Simon Schama doc though.

Quite - hence my ‘porridge’ history claim.

But with regards to ‘real’ history - England will make it if they win the tournament, not if they win tomorrow & then get beaten in, say, the QFs…

EagleSE24 29-06-2021 12:12 AM

Football managers I’d not heard of a week ago but now think are possibly the greatest coach in world football turning down the Palace role.

Isle of Wight 29-06-2021 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15870048)
You made history just by posting that.


Of course it may not feature in any Simon Schama doc though.

Yea but it will be a post that forever marks the history of the BBS and for that I am proud to have contributed to part of its rich history

Pidster 29-06-2021 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorsEdge (Post 15870007)
Technically Southgate is right, this is the new Wembley and if I remember correctly we lost to the Germans in the last game that was played in the old Wembley and Keegan resigned from his job as a manager in the loo……this is the new Wembley stadium and we have a chance to make history or carry on from where Hamman scored for Germans….

Yep…and it rained a lot that day.

PeterH 29-06-2021 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Reps AJ (Post 15870527)
Think that's kinda the point

Crane's not the brightest spark.

Also, seems to have been living in some kind of isolation for longer than this pandemic. Do they allow limited internet access, and supermarket deliveries to prison cells these days?

Tell him about the 'bag for life' scheme. :eek:

TBF. I wouldn't expect people who don't want to wear masks anywhere to take a re-usable bag out with them. I suspect they would rather march for their right to watch a dolphin strangle itself on their discarded plastic.

west country boy 29-06-2021 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cranesparkeagle (Post 15870075)
Being told that carrier bags for supermarket deliveries will now cost 80 p a shot. Whose bloody bright idea was that

You know it’s 80p per delivery rather than per bag? And you’re not forced to pay it as you can just pick up your groceries from the delivery crates, or if that's too much of a headf~ck just use your own bags? And that if you do pony up a whole 16 bob, you can reuse or recycle the bags? Oh.

TopKnot 29-06-2021 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cranesparkeagle (Post 15870075)
Being told that carrier bags for supermarket deliveries will now cost 80 p a shot. Whose bloody bright idea was that

Why do you need carrier bags for shopping that is being delivered anyway?

Mr Mojo Risin 29-06-2021 01:59 PM

People who stand at a pedestrian crossing without pressing the button. The lights won’t change by you just standing there.

RazorsEdge 29-06-2021 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo Risin (Post 15872226)
People who stand at a pedestrian crossing without pressing the button. The lights won’t change by you just standing there.

They maybe using ‘the force’ ……

Isle of Wight 29-06-2021 03:57 PM

The Government changing the petrol we have to run with more Ethanol E10 than our current Ethanol E5. Better for the environment. So far so good. But 1 million cars AND MY MOTORBIKES cant run it so have to use E5 that they are now call in "Super" and charging more for! Its the same fking stuff as you used to sell with a fancy name you robbing bastards.

LN1 29-06-2021 06:52 PM

Some twit door to door salesman thinking the best time to try to sell me a new roof is during the England match!

west country boy 29-06-2021 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Isle of Wight (Post 15872869)
The Government changing the petrol we have to run with more Ethanol E10 than our current Ethanol E5. Better for the environment. So far so good. But 1 million cars AND MY MOTORBIKES cant run it so have to use E5 that they are now call in "Super" and charging more for! Its the same fking stuff as you used to sell with a fancy name you robbing bastards.

What's even worse is that disableds get it half price :veryangry :veryangry :moo:

RazorsEdge 29-06-2021 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LN1 (Post 15873365)
Some twit door to door salesman thinking the best time to try to sell me a new roof is during the England match!

Is he Scottish?

Vince Hilaire's Afro 29-06-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo Risin (Post 15872226)
People who stand at a pedestrian crossing without pressing the button. The lights won’t change by you just standing there.

I make up for this deficit by pressing the button once I've crossed the road, before walking off

PeterH 29-06-2021 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LN1 (Post 15873365)
Some twit door to door salesman thinking the best time to try to sell me a new roof is during the England match!

Do you live in a church, and does the salesman speak dodgy French?

Herr Colonpharter 29-06-2021 08:02 PM

Wembley . . . . Be good to hear the stadium singing rather than pundits blethering :hmph:

PeterH 29-06-2021 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Herr Colonpharter (Post 15873665)
Wembley . . . . Be good to hear the stadium singing rather than pundits blethering :hmph:

Are you out in your England shirt?

Herr Colonpharter 29-06-2021 08:29 PM

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Herr Colonpharter 29-06-2021 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterH (Post 15873683)
Are you out in your England shirt?

Kein Weg Peter :(

Hedgehog 29-06-2021 09:00 PM

Online banks that don't have a live chat feature or an email address to contact them.

You are forced to either write to them (Is it 1970?) or call them on the phone so they can work in some sales pitches as they try and answer your question.

cappuccinoeagle 29-06-2021 09:14 PM

English fans booing the German National Anthem

Jordan's Jacket 29-06-2021 09:43 PM

English fans full stop

Hedgehog 29-06-2021 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cappuccinoeagle (Post 15873889)
English fans booing the German National Anthem

I would say it is equally embarrassing as it is annoying, but it is not exactly the first time it has happened is it.

Not that it makes it anymore acceptable.

in-exile 29-06-2021 10:02 PM

If a Dog barks at me!

GorBlimey 29-06-2021 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 15874034)
If a Dog barks at me!


Stop wearing daft clothing then! :D

PeterH 29-06-2021 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 15873848)
Online banks that don't have a live chat feature or an email address to contact them.

You are forced to either write to them (Is it 1970?) or call them on the phone so they can work in some sales pitches as they try and answer your question.

You still use checks.

Suits you, Grandad.

PeterH 29-06-2021 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan's Jacket (Post 15873975)
English fans full stop

I give you a choice...

England fans or Wimbledon fans????

Danny_Cheviot 29-06-2021 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cappuccinoeagle (Post 15873889)
English fans booing the German National Anthem

Yep, embarrassing.

WLYWLYAWYPWF 29-06-2021 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cappuccinoeagle (Post 15873889)
English fans booing the German National Anthem

They boo every national anthem. Classless.

Aki Aki Aki 29-06-2021 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan's Jacket (Post 15873975)
English fans full stop

Yep, this. They are mostly pathetic chavs and a complete embarrassment.

PeterH 29-06-2021 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Aki Aki Aki (Post 15874246)
Yep, this. They are mostly pathetic chavs and a complete embarrassment.

I actuallly doubt that. A very vocal minority, I reckon.

A cancer that needs to be cut out. I wonder how the chavs can afford the prices. The economy can't be that bad.

Vince Hilaire's Afro 29-06-2021 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cappuccinoeagle (Post 15873889)
English fans booing the German National Anthem

The biggest tragedy is that it's also a great tune

PeterH 29-06-2021 11:21 PM

I went to a few England games back in the day.

I was alongside the goal line when Gazza was a whisker away. I remember being quite bemused at the England fans doing the whole bombing pisstake towards the Germans. The lack of irony there, considering.

The BBS is generally above all that, but we have our fair share of Spangles and Cranes.

Aki Aki Aki 29-06-2021 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterH (Post 15874286)
I actuallly doubt that. A very vocal minority, I reckon.
.

Sadly not. My mate was at Wembley, sent me several videos before the game of hordes of boozed up Eng-er-land fans behaving like scummy chavs and singing some rather offensive songs. Sadly nothing has changed.

PalaceForever 29-06-2021 11:26 PM

The chucking of plastic pint glasses after a goal, when it happens about 5 or 6 seconds after the goal has gone in. Feels contrived, like some fans are pretending to go bananas instead of actually going bananas.

Mr Mojo Risin 29-06-2021 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PalaceForever (Post 15874316)
The chucking of plastic pint glasses after a goal, when it happens about 5 or 6 seconds after the goal has gone in. Feels contrived, like some fans are pretending to go bananas instead of actually going bananas.

I used to think the rule around no alcohol within sight of the pitch was a bad one until I got drenched in beer a few years ago in a pub garden after England scored. Now I fully support that rule!

PeterH 29-06-2021 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo Risin (Post 15874326)
I used to think the rule around no alcohol within sight of the pitch was a bad one until I got drenched in beer a few years ago in a pub garden after England scored. Now I fully support that rule!

I have a good mate that had a habit of doing that at the cricket. I had to save him from various kickings. To this day i am not sure he realises.

At the Oval, the Millwall fans in front of us were talking about waiting for him to go to the bogs.

Wayne Andrews is God 30-06-2021 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Aki Aki Aki (Post 15874309)
Sadly not. My mate was at Wembley, sent me several videos before the game of hordes of boozed up Eng-er-land fans behaving like scummy chavs and singing some rather offensive songs. Sadly nothing has changed.

I think most are actually trying to act like what they think Englands fans should act like rather than actually being England fans, they are a simulation of what England fans are (did Baudrillard like football I wonder). The 1990 England copycat shirts are a dead give away, whilst singing ‘it’s coming home’ at every opportunity.

Hedgehog 30-06-2021 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterH (Post 15874209)
You still use checks.

Suits you, Grandad.

We use cheques also... written 4 this month. :p

beef 30-06-2021 01:56 AM

Lack of sleep

GorBlimey 30-06-2021 02:14 AM

British f*cking Airways.


Shit website, their Avios product is shit and on board they are shit.


Thank you Willie Walsh for destroying what was once a really good airline in the pursuit of profit and your enhanced share options.

WLYWLYAWYPWF 30-06-2021 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo Risin (Post 15874326)
I used to think the rule around no alcohol within sight of the pitch was a bad one until I got drenched in beer a few years ago in a pub garden after England scored. Now I fully support that rule!

It was urine.

bubbs11 30-06-2021 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Andrews is God (Post 15874410)
I think most are actually trying to act like what they think Englands fans should act like rather than actually being England fans, they are a simulation of what England fans are (did Baudrillard like football I wonder). The 1990 England copycat shirts are a dead give away, whilst singing ‘it’s coming home’ at every opportunity.


Yes, exactly this. Find it very cringeworthy.

I’m quite annoyed with myself actually, that I’m just not feeling the excitement re. England anymore. Back in the day when I was a kid I’d be celebrating like Palace had scored/won, but now I just feel nothing. Happier watching the Palace under 18’s score a goal. Not sure what happened along the way, but my love for the English national side died a long time ago. It’s just Palace for me. Maybe if circumstances were different and Eze or Zaha were involved I would feel different?

sunshine lucas 30-06-2021 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bubbs11 (Post 15874885)
Yes, exactly this. Find it very cringeworthy.

I’m quite annoyed with myself actually, that I’m just not feeling the excitement re. England anymore. Back in the day when I was a kid I’d be celebrating like Palace had scored/won, but now I just feel nothing. Happier watching the Palace under 18’s score a goal. Not sure what happened along the way, but my love for the English national side died a long time ago. It’s just Palace for me. Maybe if circumstances were different and Eze or Zaha were involved I would feel different?

Me too...

Custard Pie 30-06-2021 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne Andrews is God (Post 15874410)
I think most are actually trying to act like what they think Englands fans should act like rather than actually being England fans, they are a simulation of what England fans are (did Baudrillard like football I wonder). The 1990 England copycat shirts are a dead give away, whilst singing ‘it’s coming home’ at every opportunity.

Fair play to that crowd last night. I know what a soul-less bowl Wembley can be for an England game and that sounded anything but.

little al 30-06-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterH (Post 15874209)
You still use checks.

Suits you, Grandad.

Its a cheque.

PalaceForever 30-06-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bubbs11 (Post 15874885)
Yes, exactly this. Find it very cringeworthy.

I’m quite annoyed with myself actually, that I’m just not feeling the excitement re. England anymore. Back in the day when I was a kid I’d be celebrating like Palace had scored/won, but now I just feel nothing. Happier watching the Palace under 18’s score a goal. Not sure what happened along the way, but my love for the English national side died a long time ago. It’s just Palace for me. Maybe if circumstances were different and Eze or Zaha were involved I would feel different?

I’m the same. I had a gentle celebration when we scored yesterday and would obviously like us to win the tournament, but I had more of an emotional reaction to the France v Switzerland game. I much prefer this squad to previous squads too, just don’t feel an emotional connection.

Reps AJ 30-06-2021 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by little al (Post 15875097)
Its a cheque.

English is a foreign language for him these days

Jordan's Jacket 30-06-2021 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bubbs11 (Post 15874885)
Yes, exactly this. Find it very cringeworthy.

I’m quite annoyed with myself actually, that I’m just not feeling the excitement re. England anymore. Back in the day when I was a kid I’d be celebrating like Palace had scored/won, but now I just feel nothing. Happier watching the Palace under 18’s score a goal. Not sure what happened along the way, but my love for the English national side died a long time ago. It’s just Palace for me. Maybe if circumstances were different and Eze or Zaha were involved I would feel different?

Agreed. I've never been a huge fan of the national team. I think it is because I deplore Englsih fans and wqant to see their presence at tournaments to be as short as possible.

PeterH 30-06-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by little al (Post 15875097)
Its a cheque.

Shame that you are wrong again. As is HH and he has lived there long enough.

The trick is not to get wrapped up in some pointless protection of the English language.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/word...spelling-usage

PeterH 30-06-2021 11:11 AM

This helps...

https://www.bbc.com/reel/video/p09fv...or-the-british

Maz 30-06-2021 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterH (Post 15875127)
Shame that you are wrong again. As is HH and he has lived there long enough.

The trick is not to get wrapped up in some pointless protection of the English language.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/word...spelling-usage

Merriam Webster is an American dictionary is it not? If I remember correctly Mr Merriam was really quite opposed to the use of the English, as opposed to American, language in his country.

PeterH 30-06-2021 11:15 AM

And this is from wiki..

The spellings check, checque, and cheque were used interchangeably from the 17th century until the 20th century.[2] However, since the 19th century, in the Commonwealth and Ireland, the spelling cheque (from the French word chèque) has become standard for the financial instrument, while check is used only for other meanings, thus distinguishing the two definitions in writing.[nb 1]

Check is the original spelling.[4][5] The newer spelling, cheque, is believed to have come into use around 1828, when the switch was made by James William Gilbart in his Practical Treatise on Banking.[5]

In American English, the usual spelling for both is check.[6]

Etymological dictionaries attribute the financial meaning to come from "a check against forgery", with the use of "check" to mean "control" stemming from a check in chess, a term which came into English through French, Latin, Arabic and ultimately from the Persian word shah, or "king".[7][8]

PeterH 30-06-2021 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15875132)
Merriam Webster is an American dictionary is it not? If I remember correctly Mr Merriam was really quite opposed to the use of the English, as opposed to American, language in his country.

And it is exactly why I sad that HH still uses Checks in the USA. It seems to have caught at least one usual suspect.

I think that wiki article removes all doubt.

And the word cheque is French.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheque

Blind_Eagle 30-06-2021 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterH (Post 15875137)
And this is from wiki..

The spellings check, checque, and cheque were used interchangeably from the 17th century until the 20th century.[2] However, since the 19th century, in the Commonwealth and Ireland, the spelling cheque (from the French word chèque) has become standard for the financial instrument, while check is used only for other meanings, thus distinguishing the two definitions in writing.[nb 1]

Check is the original spelling.[4][5] The newer spelling, cheque, is believed to have come into use around 1828, when the switch was made by James William Gilbart in his Practical Treatise on Banking.[5]

In American English, the usual spelling for both is check.[6]

Etymological dictionaries attribute the financial meaning to come from "a check against forgery", with the use of "check" to mean "control" stemming from a check in chess, a term which came into English through French, Latin, Arabic and ultimately from the Persian word shah, or "king".[7][8]

Don’t those first two paragraphs directly contradict each other?

PeterH 30-06-2021 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle (Post 15875144)
Don’t those first two paragraphs directly contradict each other?

Maybe.

But it doesn't change the fact that the word 'check' is used in the US where Hedgehog does his banking business.

I thought my use of the American term might get a response, but I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition.

PeterH 30-06-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle (Post 15875144)
Don’t those first two paragraphs directly contradict each other?

I think it suggests that earlier than the 17th century 'check' was the original form, or at least most common.

The interchangeable nature of the terms in the 17th Century led to the countries deciding to go officially with their preferred forms.

It's odd that some little englanders are so desperate to hang on to the French spelling or base of certain words.

It colors their bias and does them no favors.

ozzieEagle 30-06-2021 11:35 AM

When you try and put your pants on when it's freezing cold, and your foot gets halfway stuck down the leg and you lurch around all over the bedroom cos your pants legs are all scrunched up.

Note I deliberately used the Aussie word for Trousers to ursurp the check debate.


Ps we use Cheques in Aus as well.. Not Checks

kabbott 30-06-2021 11:43 AM

Check is American English.
Cheque is English English.

I know because I've chequed.

PS; Aren't you English, PeterH?

PeterH 30-06-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ozzieEagle (Post 15875169)
When you try and put your pants on when it's freezing cold, and your foot gets halfway stuck down the leg and you lurch around all over the bedroom cos your pants legs are all scrunched up.

Note I deliberately used the Aussie word for Trousers to ursurp the check debate.


Ps we use Cheques in Aus as well.. Not Checks

Yep. That is because you are one of the colonies, and half the residents are descended from people who committed cheque fraud.


As for getting trousered. It particularly happens when you are trying not to wake the wife.

PeterH 30-06-2021 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kabbott (Post 15875171)
Check is American English.
Cheque is English English.

I know because I've chequed.

PS; Aren't you English, PeterH?

Shall I spell it out again?

Hedgehog has lived in the USA for most of his adult life. He cashes and writes checks.

I speak some Spanish as well. Do you speak French or only English?

Does it matter whether I am English or not? Isn't that most of the issue here...little englanders getting butt hurt over some silly spelling? And one in particular that lives in Scotland with whatever English and mixed language they have up there.

I teach American English as a rule. I did use The OUP American English File. If Oxford are promoting that, who are plebs on the BBS to judge. To my knowledge there isn't a OUP British English File.

There are the Cambridge set of coursebooks and exams and I am currently using the great Pearson software. But for the most part I think TOEIC, TOEFL are more globally used. I think the latter two are preferred by our colonial cousins in Australia.

TBF. I speak Espanglish Mandolin.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 30-06-2021 11:57 AM

What about Czech ?

Blind_Eagle 30-06-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterH (Post 15875182)
I did use The OUP American English File. If Oxford are promoting that, who are plebs on the BBS to judge. To my knowledge there isn't a OUP British English File.

I haven’t got a clue but Google suggests there is.

PeterH 30-06-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle (Post 15875235)
I haven’t got a clue but Google suggests there is.

Not sure... I reckon they are related to the American English File books..

https://elt.oup.com/student/englishf...selLanguage=en

First exercise question spells Brazil with a Z.


Shall we go down that road....

Blind_Eagle 30-06-2021 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterH (Post 15875246)
Not sure... I reckon they are related to the American English File books..

https://elt.oup.com/student/englishf...selLanguage=en

First exercise question spells Brazil with a Z.


Shall we go down that road....

American English File books - https://elt.oup.com/student/american...selLanguage=en

English File books - https://elt.oup.com/catalogue/items/...ge=en&mode=hub

Like I said I haven’t got a clue, I only looked because I was surprised at your point, but it does appear that the OUP offer both English and American File books.

PeterH 30-06-2021 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Blind_Eagle (Post 15875275)
American English File books - https://elt.oup.com/student/american...selLanguage=en

English File books - https://elt.oup.com/catalogue/items/...ge=en&mode=hub

Like I said I haven’t got a clue, I only looked because I was surprised at your point, but it does appear that the OUP offer both English and American File books.

Indeed. I made you right. But my link was from that second set of books...and a cursory glance that shows Brazil spelt that way suggests that it has listening etc. from both countries (and ESL speakers) but the vocabulary is modified to the American version. It is and Englsh File - Not a British English File.

The books have sections dedicated to the differences..... subway/underground, highway/motorway, movie theater/cinema, single and return, one way and round trip, coach vs economy.

When the OUP have decided that American English is the preferred format in the new globalised world where English is the Lingua Franca, then our dainty little idiosyncrasies become confined to the dustbin of hisorical language.


Not that I haven't taught with these books full time for the last 8 years. :afro:

Harry Bassett 30-06-2021 01:36 PM

If Americans use colors for colour why do not they spell yors instead of yours?

Little Fozzie 30-06-2021 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Bassett (Post 15875327)
If Americans use colors for colour why do not they spell yors instead of yours?

Because they're counts

Hedgehog 30-06-2021 08:25 PM

I'm sorry... I promise to try not to use American spellings in the future.

Although my spell cheque will bug me to corrected... :rolleyes:

Maz 30-06-2021 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterH (Post 15875182)
Shall I spell it out again?

Hedgehog has lived in the USA for most of his adult life. He cashes and writes checks.

.

And you live in Chile but you don't post in Spanish.


Here on the BBS we speaka da Inglese.

Oldtown Eagle 30-06-2021 09:35 PM

Maidstone. Not the poster, the place.

Oldtown Eagle 30-06-2021 09:38 PM

Car parks that require going to night school in order to use. Even if you do manage to understand there is always plenty in front of you who don't.

CT_Palace 30-06-2021 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Bassett (Post 15875327)
If Americans use colors for colour why do not they spell yors instead of yours?

Because Theodore Roosevelt never got round to changing the spelling of that particular word (kind of)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Englis...pelling_reform

west country boy 30-06-2021 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15875838)
And you live in Chile but you don't post in Spanish.

He does a bit, using Brasil instead of Brazil and random suspiciously furrin-looking accents, but who cares?

Hedgehog 30-06-2021 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldtown Eagle (Post 15875915)
Car parks that require going to night school in order to use. Even if you do manage to understand there is always plenty in front of you who don't.

There is one at a medical building I go to like that. Compounded by the fact the doctor's office give you a 30 minute validation ticket so you have to insert two tickets.

As for getting a receipt when it's all done... that would be like winning the lottery!

Maidstoned Eagle 30-06-2021 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldtown Eagle (Post 15875909)
Maidstone. Not the poster, the place.

Damn, I must be losing my touch.


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