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jazman 12-02-2010 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by peagle
Lets face it, it wont happen that there is no football in 2011. It just won;t, for everything you say, they will work something out. They can't afford not to.

Like they did in NHL, MLB and NBA? Just face facts, it is a very real opportunity from what I have read through this evening ...

Brett 12-02-2010 11:49 PM

This could kill soccer's salary cap moves stone dead before they've even got off the ground.

And **** my paper on soccer's sustainable future in the process. :(

Vince Hilaire's Afro 13-02-2010 04:40 AM

Oops completely wrong thread.

Brett 13-02-2010 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince Hilaire's Afro
Oops completely wrong thread.

Not sure if you're referring to my post but if the NFL salary cap falls permanently then other sports would struggle to justify imposing caps within their jurisdictions.

Remember, NFL and its salary cap is being held up as some kind of panacea to all of European soccer's ills at present.

Strathclyde Eagle 13-02-2010 10:53 AM

It will come back in some form, the question is what exactly.

Salary caps are a big talking point at present in America. Talk of the NBA abandoning their soft cap and moving towards a hard cap (like the NHL).

Amid all this financial strife the frightening thing is that the NHL could come out of this looking the healthiest, having stumbled upon what they now have a few seasons ago out of desperation.

pauldrulez 13-02-2010 03:30 PM

It has to come back, it will be ridiculous otherwise.

There will be some concessions made from both sides i'd imagine.

For rookies, i'd suggest this.

Salaries are too high for the top 20 picks. Reduce all rookie wages to a lower amount. But, reduce the contracts as well. All rookies would sign a 3 year contract with the team. Maybe 4 years for the top 10. Restricted Free Agency for 5 years based on that so people get value for their pick.

Get rid of the Franchise Tag will be one thing that the NFLPA will ask for.

Revenue sharing will need to be lessened on the Owners end.

Why should a team that works really hard on bringing in income and sells out, have to give up some of their revenue for it to be spread among the rest of the teams. When the Jaguars aren't a popular team, don't sell out, merchandise sucks, why should they get as much money?

Strathclyde Eagle 14-02-2010 01:54 AM

I think for rookie contracts they'll have to do something along the lines of what the NBA have done, have a maximum amount and time they can be for. Young guys don't get overpaid, picks remain valuable and sooner or later the player gets paid too.
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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Why should a team that works really hard on bringing in income and sells out, have to give up some of their revenue for it to be spread among the rest of the teams. When the Jaguars aren't a popular team, don't sell out, merchandise sucks, why should they get as much money?

Because if they don't then you end up with the faulty MLB model, where a team like the Yankees don't really even have a soft cap to contend with (just a luxury tax, which to them is a drop in the ocean). Advantage immediately goes to teams like Dallas, Washington and Pittsburgh, assuming they use those resources correctly.

Speaking of the Cowboys, I'd like to criticise Wade Phillips for this clip, but then I realised that he appears to be the only man at this party, and all the women are about twenty years younger than him. So (arguably) nice job Wade. :p


jazman 14-02-2010 10:32 AM

Read up a lot about the players that are coming through the draft this year. Looking like a bumper year for prospects it seems ...

Strathclyde Eagle 14-02-2010 03:37 PM

Not many elite QBs after Bradford though I'd suggest.

Vince Hilaire's Afro 14-02-2010 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett
Not sure if you're referring to my post but if the NFL salary cap falls permanently then other sports would struggle to justify imposing caps within their jurisdictions.

Remember, NFL and its salary cap is being held up as some kind of panacea to all of European soccer's ills at present.

Not at all...I was referring to my own post which was about something completely different, and therefore edited as seen!

Strathclyde Eagle 14-02-2010 11:43 PM

NFL owner at Selhurst today.

Sadly one who already owns Villa, but still...

Where does our solitary Browns fan sit anyway?

peagle 14-02-2010 11:46 PM

Apparently Kraft IS not one of the 20 interested parties!

Beckenham Boy 15-02-2010 12:34 PM

NFL Superbowl XLV odds: -

Dallas Cowboys 9/1
Indianapolis Colts 9/1
New Orleans Saints 9/1
New England Patriots 10/1
San Diego Chargers 11/1
Minnesota Vikings 14/1
Pittsburgh Steelers 14/1
Green Bay Packers 16/1
Baltimore Ravens 18/1
New York Giants 18/1
Cincinnati Bengals 20/1
New York Jets 20/1
Philadelphia Eagles 20/1
Arizona Cardinals 25/1
Atlanta Falcons 25/1
Washington Redskins 25/1
Carolina Panthers 28/1
Miami Dolphins 28/1
Houston Texans 33/1
Seattle Seahawks 33/1
Tennessee Titans 33/1
Chicago Bears 40/1
Denver Broncos 40/1
San Francisco 49ers 40/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 66/1
Cleveland Browns 80/1
Kansas City Chiefs 80/1
Buffalo Bills 100/1
Oakland Raiders 125/1
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 125/1
Detroit Lions 150/1
St Louis Rams 150/1

Swanny32 15-02-2010 04:04 PM

Where did you get those odds from? I fancy putting a few quid on us and the Packers

Vince Hilaire's Afro 15-02-2010 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny32
Where did you get those odds from? I fancy putting a few quid on us and the Packers

As the Dallas Cowboys are joint favourites to make the Superbowl, I presume he got them off Krusty the Klown on his way out of the bookies.

Beckenham Boy 15-02-2010 04:09 PM

LOL - they are on Stan James

http://www.stanjames.com/betting/?gi=10

If that does no go straight to the page click on American football on the left and it will come up.

peagle 15-02-2010 06:56 PM

Couple quid on the Jets might be worth it just in case to cheer me up :) Otherwise Packers looks a decent punt.

AddiscombeEagle 15-02-2010 07:17 PM

i like the titans odds each way.

pauldrulez 15-02-2010 07:22 PM

I might have an e/w on the Niners and Bears.

Ridiculous odds for those teams with what they have.

Vince Hilaire's Afro 15-02-2010 07:52 PM

Not sure if it's been posted on here, but they've been saying for the last week or so here in Charlotte that Julius Peppers is definitely not coming back to the Panthers. 'Not worth the money' was the quote I heard.

Any ideas where he'll be off to?

Still rumblings going around about Vick coming to Carolina....I guess it's possible that the Panthers will get in a big name having freed up Peppers' salary.


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