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Grim Reaper 17-10-2007 07:17 AM

There are a few teams who won the division in Week 11. That's the current record and yes, Week 10 is the earliest the Pats can do it.

'85 Bears was one I believe and just three seasons ago PHilly won NFC East at a canter.

Trting to recall how quick the BEars won their div last year

Strathclyde Eagle 17-10-2007 07:38 AM

Think it was quite late - wasn't that OT game against Tampa something to do with them clinching?

Grim Reaper 17-10-2007 08:01 AM

WEll, as they were 13-3 and the Giants made the play offs on 8-8 I'm guessing either the VIkes or Pack were 8-8 or worse. As the Pack were 4-8 at one stage then surely CHi Town won the div quite early (but maybe not Wk 11)

Grim Reaper 17-10-2007 08:01 AM

How about this

The Dolphins go 0-16 the season someone matches their perfect unbeaten year!!

Wonder what the odds would be on that

Benzhiyi 17-10-2007 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Good job I wasn't planning on wearing my Chris Chambers jersey to Wembley.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3066210

(Note to self: Buy throwbacks in future.)

Interesting move. He'd obviously reached a comfort zone with Miami and a second pick should be exciting... except we've drafted so badly in recent years that it'll probably be wasted on a bust.

0-16 looks ever more possible.

elliott 17-10-2007 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Interesting move. He'd obviously reached a comfort zone with Miami and a second pick should be exciting... except we've drafted so badly in recent years that it'll probably be wasted on a bust.

0-16 looks ever more possible.

GOD DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need a new shirt for Wembley now.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

Next shirts on my list:

Bob Kuechenberg
Jim Jenson (just CRASH written on the back)
Kim Bokamper
Larry Little


Can't go wrong with that

Strathclyde Eagle 17-10-2007 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
How about this

The Dolphins go 0-16 the season someone matches their perfect unbeaten year!!

Wonder what the odds would be on that

Seriously, you don't think I've thought about that?

Think the odds on that could get quite short. I think the only possible bump in the road for the Pats now might be Indy on the road, but that's another score for them to settle and they won't be short on motivation there.
Quote:

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Interesting move. He'd obviously reached a comfort zone with Miami and a second pick should be exciting... except we've drafted so badly in recent years that it'll probably be wasted on a bust.

0-16 looks ever more possible.

I know Ben, I don't trust the Fins brain trust with a second round pick either. At least Norv Turner is still coaching the Chargers, so there's more chance of it being a higher pick.

On the whole as much as I like Chambers I think it's a good trade, depending on who we pick.

Here's a question for everyone: Is LaDanian Tomlinson a better passer than any QB Chambers even had throwing to him while he was a Dolphin?

Incidentally I don't know how some pundits rate us above St. Louis. They're ravished by injuries, we've only had that problem at safety.

elliott 17-10-2007 01:30 PM

In fairness we've been struggling at DT and LB too.

Strathclyde Eagle 17-10-2007 01:40 PM

Only Crowder's out at LB though now? His injury and Thomas's injury didn't overlap except for the second half of the Raiders game.

nookiebear 17-10-2007 04:14 PM

It's becoming a Dolphins love-in this thread :)

Strathclyde Eagle 17-10-2007 07:38 PM

What's wrong with that? ;)

http://postpix.palmbeachpost.com/ima...ry/1586779.jpg

"Let's hear it for Gary O'Reilly!"

Grim Reaper 17-10-2007 10:22 PM

That's the 2nd decent thing to do with Miami I've seen (the other being their 2 point conversion v the Jets to win me a bet)

Grim Reaper 17-10-2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Seriously, you don't think I've thought about that?

Think the odds on that could get quite short. I think the only possible bump in the road for the Pats now might be Indy on the road, but that's another score for them to settle and they won't be short on motivation there.

.

Of course, it might not be NE that does - Indy could still be the 16-0 team.

I'll wait until after this week as -1600 isn't a worthwhile bet on NE.

I'll stick on a lazy $20 and keep doing New Eng/Colts doubles with Miami's opponents and then just doubles with the winner of INdy v Pats and keep putting the money. Could be a nice sum getting accumulated by Wk 17 even at low odds.

Dave Nunn 17-10-2007 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nookiebear
It's becoming a Dolphins love-in this thread :)
I hate the FISH!

Go the Pats:moo:

Strathclyde Eagle 17-10-2007 11:10 PM

Dave, who's your favourite ever Patriot?

Brady, Moss, Bruschi, Vinatieri?

Or Grogan, Morgan, Tippett?

Please ask "who?". :D

Bonus points if your actual answer is Rich Camarillo, and someone can find online footage of his 62 yard punt in Super Bowl XX that bounced and rolled for about thirty yards on the Superdome Astroturf. :cool:

Grim Reaper 18-10-2007 06:58 AM

No Patriot will remember SB XX - it's been erased from their memory!

Strathclyde, Dave might surprise you and say John Smith is his favourite Pat and, as a Brit in that league, was his reason for following New England.

You never know.

I'm still betting on - 'WHO?' being the answer though.

nookiebear 18-10-2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Dave, who's your favourite ever Patriot?


As a Dolphins distraction, who is everyone's favourite ever NFL player?

Think mine still is Brian Bosworth for sheer comedy value.

Strathclyde Eagle 18-10-2007 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
Strathclyde, Dave might surprise you and say John Smith is his favourite Pat and, as a Brit in that league, was his reason for following New England.
Snowplough!

One of my earliest American Football memories was John Smith being on the sideline of a Jets-Patriots game in 1985 with the score tied 13-each at the end of regulation. At that point in time the Patriots had never won an overtime game in the regular season in their history. :eek:
Quote:

Originally posted by nookiebear
As a Dolphins distraction, who is everyone's favourite ever NFL player?

Think mine still is Brian Bosworth for sheer comedy value.

Deion Sanders, who I liked from an article I read when he was still at Florida State. In the article he was quoted about some algebra/academics issue he had, and said something along the lines of "Why do I need to know that X+Y=Z? I don't need to know that when I'm counting my money." I hated algebra at school so that comment made him instantly popular to me. :D

Ran his mouth, but backed it up and did it in the biggest spots, justifying the Prime Time nickname.

Possibly the greatest returner pre-Hester as well. Shameful lack of clips of his available online. One of his returns against the Giants on a Monday night was out of this world.

On a non American Football playing side it is also worth noting:
a) He was a decent enough baseball player. Hit over .500 in the 1992 World Series (don't get me started on why he was taken out of game 6 of that series in the bottom of the ninth with the game tied).
b) He has enormous ears, which are always good comedy value when he appears on the NFL Network.

Incidentally Emmitt Smith is working his way up my list. I've been looking out on YouTube for a clip of him butchering a famous Jim Valvano quote which is apparently hysterical. No luck yet though.

Think I might have to put together a team of non-Dolphin favourites for Madden purposes.

nookiebear 18-10-2007 02:17 PM

Always liked Ickey Woods as well because of his Ickey Shuffle as well

Strathclyde Eagle 18-10-2007 06:23 PM

I'd make Woods starting FB of a cult heroes Madden team.

LLCOOLSTEVE 18-10-2007 08:05 PM

Dolphins cheerleaders at Selhurst

Strathclyde Eagle 18-10-2007 08:31 PM

You serious Steve?

LLCOOLSTEVE 18-10-2007 09:04 PM

Tuesday night, thread in Gen Palace discussion :)

Strathclyde Eagle 18-10-2007 09:09 PM

Can't do both sadly.

Major upgrade over the Palace Crystals!

Benzhiyi 19-10-2007 09:30 AM

With our two new arrivals, we now have seven defensive tackles on the active roster. (Holliday, Traylor, Wright, Soliai, Fifita, Mahelona and Rayburn.)

One question:

Why?

elliott 19-10-2007 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
Dolphins cheerleaders at Selhurst
Been there, done that. Got the signed calender.

Benzhiyi 19-10-2007 11:02 AM

We've just signed a guy called Anthony Bryant.

What position does he play, you ask?

Defensive tackle.

I know our run defense is poor but seriously, Cam, do we need eight of them?!!

jlmatthews 19-10-2007 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Benzhiyi


I know our run defense is poor but seriously, Cam, do we need eight of them?!!


Apparently, if they all played at the same time they'd finally be able to stuff the run up the middle.

Strathclyde Eagle 19-10-2007 01:58 PM

Revolutionary new 8-1-2 system, innit.

Actually we've got Crowder and Thomas, let's make that a 8-2-1 instead. No-one will miss the secondary, they're not there anyway.

BTW has anyone seen the Steve Smith TD from last weekend where the Cardinals' DB just stopped? Very strange.

Strathclyde Eagle 19-10-2007 10:41 PM

Did I imagine it, or did Martin Johnson just say "You play to win the game" on the ITV news? Herm Edwards is very proud.

davematt 21-10-2007 12:51 AM

Has anyone had their tickets for next Sunday arrive yet?

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 10:40 AM

Yep, about two weeks ago I think.

Jamie W 21-10-2007 10:55 AM

Yeah we ordered 2 sets to different addresses and they both arrived around 3 weeks ago.

nookiebear 21-10-2007 11:51 AM

got em about 10 days ago

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 03:38 PM

Fins 16 point dogs right now...

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 05:06 PM

Keyshawn Johnson just did an awesome interview with Chad Johnson on ESPN.

Asked some really good Q's about Chad being a problem on the team... and worrying more about TD celebrations than winning.

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlmatthews
Fins 16 point dogs right now...
Only 15.5 over here. The Pats beat Dallas by 21 for crying out loud!
Quote:

Originally posted by jlmatthews
Keyshawn Johnson just did an awesome interview with Chad Johnson on ESPN.

Asked some really good Q's about Chad being a problem on the team... and worrying more about TD celebrations than winning.

I take it they came to the conclusion that Chad isn't the problem (because he isn't, IMHO)? Besides anything else he's said he's stopping the celebrations until the Bengals are .500 again.

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle


I take it they came to the conclusion that Chad isn't the problem (because he isn't, IMHO)? Besides anything else he's said he's stopping the celebrations until the Bengals are .500 again.

Key said he was a distraction... and since he wants to be the center of attention all the time that the finger was pointing at him. Chad got pretty defensive. I think it's ironic that it was Key putting him on the hot seat like that.

I agree that CJ isn't the problem. I think if you are going to look at anything as a major problem with the Bengals... it's the defense.

BVB Bob 21-10-2007 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by davematt
Has anyone had their tickets for next Sunday arrive yet?
Mine arrived last Weds. Was starting to worry.

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlmatthews
Key said he was a distraction... and since he wants to be the center of attention all the time that the finger was pointing at him. Chad got pretty defensive. I think it's ironic that it was Key putting him on the hot seat like that.

I agree that CJ isn't the problem. I think if you are going to look at anything as a major problem with the Bengals... it's the defense.

Yikes, has Keyshawn ever heard of pots and kettles?

JLM right on the money again - the Bengals problem is the D. Add in the arrests/suspensions and I don't know how you can blame Johnson (or Palmer or his colleague WR with the long surname which I can't spell).

I'm glad we don't get that NFL preview show on NASN anymore. The only half-decent one on it was Steve Young.

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
I don't know how you can blame Johnson (or Palmer or his colleague WR with the long surname which I can't spell).


T.J. H.

:p

Did you ever see this fantasy football commercial?

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 06:20 PM

That didn't take long...

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 06:22 PM

If I never hear Dan Dierdorf again in my life it'll be too soon. :bash:

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 06:24 PM

Wow... nearly coering the spread already :eek:

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 06:27 PM

You make it sounds like a surprise! Brady 7-7. Will probably be 44-45 (1 drop) by the end of the day.

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 06:42 PM

Ouch!

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 06:43 PM

MIA30 J.Feely kicks 47 yards from MIA 30 to NE 23. W.Andrews for 77 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Wayne? :eek:

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 06:55 PM

I see my pot shot bet on Miami is money down the drain.

Good QB stats though between Brady and Lemon 13/13 so far!!!

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 06:56 PM

Can't believe the Giants can dominate big time and are still 7-6 down

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 06:56 PM

WOW

Nice timing

Giants force a turnover on the SF 27

HERE WE GO!!

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 06:57 PM

How long do you think the Pats will keep their starts in? Through the third or later?

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
MIA30 J.Feely kicks 47 yards from MIA 30 to NE 23. W.Andrews laughs at the ineptitude he's up against and despite being bent in two through a fit of laughter staggers hysterically for 77 yards, TOUCHDOWN.


NFL now updated the play on the site;)

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlmatthews
How long do you think the Pats will keep their starts in? Through the third or later?
Change them NOW so I can cash in at the 11/1!!!! :p



















TOUCHDOWN GIANTS :D :p :D :p

(Prays that this post and other similar ones don't come back to haunt him in 7 days time at Wembley)

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 07:03 PM

Another turnover

GO GIANTS!!

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 07:06 PM

Jeff Garcia with impressive numbers so far

15/16 for 170 yards and 1TD 0 INT

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 07:07 PM

Brady with 4 TD's now and still perfect!

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 07:08 PM

Strath's 70 point prediction for the Pats is well on course!!!!

35-7!

Randy Moss scoring points galore for my Fantasy team......what a shame I forgot to take out Morris and Ben Watson!! Might have actually done something if I'd fielded a full team

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlmatthews
Brady with 4 TD's now and still perfect!
Still trying to rack my brain as to why I dropped him from my team a couple of weeks back. I baffle myself at times!!

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 07:10 PM

Strathclyde makes it to Wembley 8/1
Strathclyde throws himself in front of a bus before next Sunday 1/10

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 07:14 PM

BBC News reports another vehicle driving into the terminal at Glasgow Airport next Sunday morning... actually, I'd better not give myself ideas.

Our defence couldn't be softer if our DC was Craig Piffle-Sorewood (or whatever his name is).

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
Strathclyde makes it to Wembley 8/1
Strathclyde throws himself in front of a bus before next Sunday 1/10

If I quote this, does it make it legally binding? :D

Can I suggest this for the goldmine? :cool:

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlmatthews
How long do you think the Pats will keep their starts in? Through the third or later?
Later. See my previous points about them thinking that Zach Thomas is a cheat. They're making a point.

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 07:17 PM

Brady finally misses one

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 07:29 PM

Exciting first halfs of the early games. A lot of points on the board...

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 07:35 PM

291 yards 5 TD's -- First half

Unbelieveable. Starters may just shower up and head home at HT!!

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 07:51 PM

Osi Umeniora gets the hatrick

SACK
FORCED FUMBLE
TOUCHDOWN RETURN

All on the one play!

Awesome from the NFL's leading sack man.

Even more annoying that I forgot to switch Morris and Watson from my Fantasy team as I have the Giants defense as well!!!

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 07:53 PM

Come on Ravens - get me out of this financial mess!!!

More points in 7 2nd half mins in Buffalo than the whole 1st half!

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlmatthews
Exciting first halfs of the early games. A lot of points on the board...
Only if you're looking at the Pats' score!! ;)

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlmatthews
291 yards 5 TD's -- First half

Unbelieveable. Starters may just shower up and head home at HT!!

Brady will be in the pub before the end of the game

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 08:05 PM

3 x running plays & no first downs loses about two minutes off the clock. Keep that up for the rest of the game and we might keep the Pats below 70.

Eight minute drive ended with a pick - not the worst idea in the world!

(Desperate? Moi?)

BTW Cris the last time I felt this pessimistic about going to see a team of mine in person was probably before I went to see Palace at Newcastle in March 1998. Do you want to know how that worked out? ;)

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 08:09 PM

How the hell o Baltimore give up 19 points to the Bills.

Why do I care? Because they're up my fantasy football team!!!!!!!! :bash: I can't afford to lose!!!

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 08:12 PM

I saw a few people picking the Bills in that one Jason. The Ravens aren't as good as people think it seems.

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 08:13 PM

It ain't pretty over at Finheaven.

Pats doing fake spikes and all sorts.

BTW Cris Mangini started all this by grassing them up for videogate. You're right in line later this season.

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
I saw a few people picking the Bills in that one Jason. The Ravens aren't as good as people think it seems.
There's no way a QB in his first handful of starts should be able to deal with the Ravens D.

The Baltimore O hasn't helped much and is at falt for some of the points from turnovers... but only 2 sacks? Get some pressure on the kid!!!!


Sorry... fantasy football is really pissing me off today :D

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 08:25 PM

See Tony. As soon as I type that the Baltimore D gets a Pick 6! :D

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 08:25 PM

Ah, only the Fins and the Finheaven moderators are doing that to me (they merge everything into one thread on game days, makes everything a nightmare to follow).

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 08:30 PM

Matt Cassel in for Brady, and he throws a pick-6. That's the future if Brady gets hurt.

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 08:34 PM

Brady back in. :eek:

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Brady back in. :eek:

:eek:

Hope the bastard gets hurt. He should be no where near the field at this point.

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlmatthews
As soon as I type that the Baltimore D gets a Pick 6! :D
Oops. The pick six apparently was not one. Still an INT though

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 08:49 PM

Hmm, would I be laugh if Brady got injured while the Pats run up the score on their own artificial turf? Hmm...

(I know they're on the road this week, but they're going to keep on running scores up all this season.)

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 09:11 PM

Escaped only down by 21. I'll take that and move on.

First and only home game of the season next week.

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 09:13 PM

:D

Chester 21-10-2007 09:13 PM

Bloody Ravens and Tampa Bay and Houston.

My picking has gone to pot

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 09:19 PM

I feel your Ravens pain Chester.

Thanks to the power of Betfair trading my loss on Arizona turned into a financial win thanks to their near comeback.

Giants winning me 4/4 bets in the space of 6 days. Their defense is simply awesome right now. Just worried Tony's gonna go all that way to Wembley and not even see a TD for his troubles.

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Escaped only down by 21. I'll take that and move on.

First and only home game of the season next week.

A good repair job there. Well, if you can call mending the hole in the Titanic with sellotape a repair job ;)

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 09:23 PM

Houston trying to complete the greatest comeback in the history of the NFL!!!!

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 09:23 PM

Jets game been going less than 6 mins and already receptions of 56 and 57 in the game.

Jets leading 7-0 but I fear that lead won't last too long!!

Chester 21-10-2007 09:24 PM

Houston two onside recovery kicks and now they have scored

:eek: :eek:

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 09:24 PM

Chad Pennington 2/2 79 yds 1TD

Now THAT'S a start!!

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chester
Houston two onside recovery kicks and now they have scored

:eek: :eek:

Didn't have a penny on that game. Gutted I missed the lay of 1.01 on that one!!

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 09:25 PM

Jets hold out on the goal line. Hurrah

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 09:28 PM

Just readinbg the play-by-play on that Houston. Simply awesome

Chester 21-10-2007 09:30 PM

Texans in field goal range

:sob:

Strathclyde Eagle 21-10-2007 09:31 PM

29 4th quarter points!

Chester 21-10-2007 09:34 PM

8 field goals fair play. what a agame

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 09:45 PM

Chad 6/6 104 yds 1TD

Looks like Brady left Miami and decided to fly to Cincy and start with the Jets.

Grim Reaper 21-10-2007 09:48 PM

St LOuis 1st & Goal at the 4 and still can't get a TD

FFS

Chester 21-10-2007 10:26 PM

That is one of the most bizarre touchdowns for the Vikings I have seen!!

jlmatthews 21-10-2007 10:37 PM

:D

I liked the one where the DT ran it 80 yards and it didn't count


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