broncos wanted to use one of their coaches at qb but nfl said no. would have been amusing to watch.

Texans offence. "Give it to Henry".....

Bills back to winning ways!

I noticed that Jake Fromm is a QB for the Bills having been picked in the draft this year. If you've seen the series QB1, the first series I think, then you can see him play for his high school final year before college.

I can't quite figure out who played QB in the end. I see they had one completion, so assume someone did.

I did read that a couple of their players had played QB at school before converting to their current position, but whether that school was High School or college, I'm not sure.

In truth, unless your game revolves around 20 yard passes, I'm guessing you just hand the ball to a running back and hope for the best.

I think they ended up using a practice squad WR.

Summed up perfectly last night! :(

Believe theres a few 49ers fans in here? Would be keen to get your thoughts of possible season endings for you?

Its not an easy schedule with Bills, Washington, Cowboys, Cardinals, Seahawks but not impossible.

Looking at playoff picture, I think that the 49ers are underrated and bookies wise, overpriced. Yes they are missing stars, probably more blue chippers than any other team but if Tevin Coleman can return alongside Mostert (who is top class and underrated) and get through to week 15-16 with a possibility of Jimmy G, Kittle, Ayuik, Deebo and Mostert on the pitch at the same time, this team I think has a serious chance.

Flip back just 2 weeks, only Ayuik featured vs the Saints (7 for 75 and 1 TD, so proves can do it against some of the better teams) and limited them pretty well apart from some rare special teams errors

Sherman just returned and still have Kinlaw who will improve, plus Ward, Greenlaw and Warner....

Sneaky under the radar particularly with in my mind, the best coach in the league. He will put Kingsbury and Mike McCarthy to shame in the coming weeks.

I wrote off the season some weeks ago. Hoping that the injury list shortens is just clutching at straws. There's not enough games left, the schedule is difficult, we don't have a game winning QB and the NFC West is the toughest of divisions this year.

Looks like it’s between the Cards, 9ers, Bears and my Vikings for that final wildcard spot.

I’d say the Bears have the easiest schedule, but are probably the weakest team.

Really hard to predict, obviously lots will depend on when the Cards play the 9ers, and the Vikings play the Bears.

Though the NFC West is clearly the strongest division in football, they’ve definitely had the distinct benefit of playing against the NFC Least, who this season may be the worst division in NFL history.

Fair enough.

I guess my angle was:

1. Some blue chippers returning and how many other teams would still be in the hunt without key players (see Cowboys)

2. The fact that Covid plays a part also means you could realistically be facing a very weakened team in some upcoming or future matches (flip side is, Santa Clara is worst hit so maybe the 49ers will be affected the most) - but games like Saints vs Broncos and last nights may not be to uncommon going forward now a precendant has been set, which perhaps could give some unusual optimism to not rule anything out

3. As a cardinals fan, I dont really rate us that much as a team. Murray is great yes, but the shoulder injury is worrying, the running game has stalled recently and the defence is overall void of any play makers.

4. As for the NFC west, its strong in comparison to other leagues but the Rams are very capable of laying eggs with Goff and also are one of the few teams, same for Seahawks to not have a key player have injury (Donald, Goff himself in theory, Kupp, Wilson, Lockett, Metcalf). Banking on injuries is never a failsafe plan of course

I would not be surprised to see 49ers finish above the Cardinals, which should give them a shot at the playoffs

This season is certainly open to skewed results because of Covid, but I don't think that's a good reason for changing my position regarding the 9ers. It would be like putting your hopes on pure luck (and look where that got the Colts... boom boom) and hoping the other teams get injured is the same. Bottom line, those 2 games in NY ruined the 9ers' season. And ultimately even with everyone back generally you need a solid QB capable of doing something special to win the Super Bowl and I don't think even a fully fit JG is that and obviously neither are the current back-ups.

and a measure of the 9ers season to date, we're 1-1 v NFC East.

The Vikings are 0-1.

Andy Dalton :D

All fair points and I guess from a form point of view, why would a weaker 49ers team win a superbowl this year compared to last season when they made the SB.

Still think they will make the playoffs.

well there is now double the chance a team playing in Arizona will reach the play-offs :p

What on earth is going on with the Browns!

They’re a very talented team, super bowl contenders for sure.

Don’t think anyone expected them to run away with it like this though!

Meanwhile, it’d be nice if the Vikings could manage a lead against the bloody Jags!

There is a zero percent chance that NY Jets players are tanking but if you are a Jets' CB, why the hell would you bite on a stop and go with seconds left in the game and no Raiders TOs.

And why bring the house with no deep safety....

Pissed off with Cardinals - have absolutely folded in the last few weeks. Gonzalez the kicker cost us each week but despite above average weapons (Hopkins, Kirk, Isabella) it staggers me that we have no ability to draw up any kind of play to move the ball.

Could be worse I guess, could have to watch Chargers Special teams be the most embarrasing unit ever. 4 Pats Punts, Chargers have 11, 12, 10, 12 players on the field. Laughable

Did ok with that one :D look forward to finding the next one :D

Should have listened to the 49ers fans on here though :wallbash:

Great call :p

Jefferson is ridiculous, deserves offensive rookie of the year but wouldn’t be surprised if it goes to Herbert out of QB bias. I don’t think many saw him being quite this good, but I still don’t know what the Eagles were thinking taking Reagor over him.

Out of LSU catching passes from Joe Burrow.....hardly unearthed an unknown gem there.....;)

Arguments as to why Ruggs, Jeudy and Lamb were also taken over him. So hard to call how anyone adjusts to life in the NFL.

Pains me as a Pats fan watching N’keal Harry (actually had a nice TD catch Sunday but has mostly been shit or injured) and you have DK Metcalf tearing it up who was taken 40 odd picks later!

Sure, but you could at least make cases for them being better than JJ at college level. Reagor, not at all. Eagles fans were losing their shit on draft night, it was a strange pick as far back as that, and obviously looks even worse now.

Oh definitely, Reagor was a bizarre pick. I meant more that JJ should have been in the conversation with the other 3 based on his college output. It was strange that he wasn’t. Huge pick up for the Vikings and replacement for Diggs.

Oh, I get you. Agreed.

Pats season well and truly over now!

So much wrong with last nights game. Cam, OL, Harris getting injured, DL/LB against the run. Just an ugly loss.

Cam was benched again and I hope we go with Stidham for the last 3 games. Cam isn’t the future, might as well see what we have with Stidham.

So much to address in the offseason. Hoping that they don’t bring Cam back and go after Stafford who wants out from Detroit and has a very friendly contract from a trade perspective. Huge amount of cap space to address the talent poor roster in free agency, plus welcome back Hightower, Chung and Cannon who despite being in their 30’s are all leaders on that team and have been missed massively.

I was somewhat surprised that Matthew Stafford is still in the NFL. Feels like he has been around ages now.

Good player Stafford. In that Kirk Cousins tier of good but not quite elite QBs.

Only 32

Update:

1-2 ....as if you needed any more proof aj4

Tank the last three games which will hopefully give us a top 10 pick.

And go improve the OL. Its a mess.

So... The Panthers are still shit.

Jimmy Herbert is going to be such a dominant player for years to come!

Which is interesting as he had the most question marks coming out of college compared to Burrow and Tua. All 3 of them are going to be superstars in the league for years to come (assuming Burrow recovers from that horrible injury).

Final wildcard spot the Cardinal’s to lose now. 8-6, 9ers and Rams left. 7-7 Bears have the Jags and the Packers.

Must thank you all for talking me out of having a 49ers punt.

As for my cardinals...christ we are making hard work of this. I don't really fancy us in any playoff game, but then when you see the Rams get beat by the Jets and the Buccs struggle vs the Falcons etc, maybe I should?

I think you should. Saints and Packers aside, who you're unlikely to be playing in the Wildcard anyway, this is a weak NFC.

Jalen Hurts is the real deal!
The play in the last minute where he was stripped, regained the ball and nailed the pass down the sideline for a 1st down was brilliant.
His rushing TD was equally exciting.

I always thought Hurts was under-rated because of the Tagovailoa comparisons. However, you look at what he did when he moved to Oklahoma and you can see that he was going to thrive in whatever situation he found himself.

On a slightly related matter, what the hell were the Jets thinking beating the Rams? Now Jacksonville has a shot at Trevor Lawrence. They better tank hard v Cleveland and the Pats because the Jags have no show against the Bears and Colts.

Wentz-like improvisation...

Even the Raiders on 7-7 have no chance, yet Washington on 6-8 romp through on account of their division being so utterly shit. Any other 2nd placed AFC side would've smashed that division. Ain't right that the Raiders had to face the current holders and runaway team of the year twice, and they even inflicted that 1 loss on them, but they're out for a team with a losing record. :jerkit:

EDIT, not sure if I understand it though but if the Raiders beat the Dolphins on Sunday then it's wide open in the final week as they are better on head to head? Both would be on 9-7 when (if) the Bills beat them too, and the Raiders beat the shitty Broncos. Having said that, the Raiders got butt****ed by the Falcons the other week lol Tbf the Raiders have lost a lot of games by small margins, their defence sucks (Concede 30 points a game on AVERAGE!)

The only path for the Raiders is for all of the following to happen:

• Beat Dolphins and Broncos
• Dolphins also lose to the Bills
• Ravens lose to the Giants and Bengals

Not likely but (I think) more likely than the 1% odds that ESPN are giving them. They say that the Chiefs are only 96% to clinch the conference but I haven't found the scenario where they don't.

Ok got it. It appears that both the Bills and Steelers need to cause a 3-way tie for first in the conference to even have a shot. So both the Bills and Steelers need the following to happen before they can even get to the strength of schedule tiebreakers:

• Chiefs lose to the Falcons :p, Chargers
  AND
• Bills beat Patriots, Dolphins
  AND
• Steelers beat Colts, Browns

Then the Steelers need to have the NFC South lose this weekend (apart from the Falcons, of course) and the Bills need a host of results to go their way. I've done it before but haven't been able to replicate it. It involves the Titans winning out and some other results. The Steelers are much easier to make happen. Of course, that counts on the Falcons winning, which isn't happening. After all, they aren't in pole position for the #1 draft pick. If they were, they would definitely win.

Dang I forgot about the Ravens. They will likely beat both of those sides, especially the Giants, who can't even make the top half of the shittest division in history.

Well, **** me. Just found this website, https://nflplayoffscenarios.com:

That's Funk sorted for Christmas :D

Hope a BBSer had Alvin Kamara in their fantasy team. Six rushing touchdowns - a new NFL single game record. It also ties the record for most in a game by all methods.

F@ckin Kliff Kingsbury - complete dud

An 85 point game. Ridiculous!

Raiders threw yet another win away at the death....

Final game shootout for the Cardinals then vs Rams back up QB. I don't expect a deep run in the playoffs, but important that we get there, partly to give Kyler that exposure in a Play Off game. Even he flames out (ala Josh Allen vs Texans last year) it will start to see us back moving towards being a winning team once again.

I also don't agree with the standings/winlose record etc in terms of making the playoffs. I think the division winners should make it through, but Washington/Dalles shouldnt be ranked 4, they should be ranked 7 and have the 1 seed given their pitiful record.

Flip side is, unless you are seed 1, 2 or 7 then 3-6 has less importance this year than previous due to lack of homefield advantage. 1 or 2 have the home route to the SB should 1 slip up and 7 (in theory) gets the hardest opponent.

Kyler Murray is out for the Cardinals too, so it's a battle of the backups in Glendale.

Some horrific stats shown during the 9ers game.
Numbers as I remember them: had 43 on injured reserve this season. Used 80 different players over the season.
What a disaster. One to forget.

And nicely, to end this disaster of a season, Wilson giving John Lynch a lesson and a reminder in how mobile QBs rule the NFL nowadays.
Take the hint mate, we need a QB who can operate out of the pocket. PLEASE!

Indeed - well coached though means that they will come back well and getting the 12 pick is a nice place to be in to either go up, stay or go back with some OLine and Corner backs needed for you, if not go up and get a QB.

As for bad coaching, i'm sick of Kliff Kingsbury already. What a way to flame out of the season. Punting on the 40 with 5 mins left down 11 was a pinnacle, but the 3 and 18 speed option play with an injured Kyler before was even more of a disaster.

A losing season and going through as divisional champs. What a disgrace.

I can't call the superbowl not even at this stage. A handful of strong sides there who can win it, Bills, Saints, Chiefs strong all season, Packers on a run. I think the Seahawks had a false run from looking who they beat on that streak.

Commiserations to Tony P who, after a neck and neck race all year, had to settle for second in the BBS Spread Pickers league. Last year's winner, Everybody Ertz, was 3rd.

I do wonder if TB can do something, they've basically got a bye in the wildcard round*. Five thirty eight has Chiefs, Packers, Saints, Bills, Ravens, Buccs, Seahawks, Steelers, Titans, Colts as their top 10 (full predictions at https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...l-predictions/)

They also have a preview of the wildcard round at https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...-card-weekend/

*Feel free to throw this back in my face if WFT win.

You wouldn’t back the Seahawks over the Saints, Bucs or Packers, but Wilson at his best can single handedly beat anyone.

Weak NFC though, compared to years gone by.

Except the Rams ;)

Surprised that Pete Carroll doesnt face more criticism to be honest by now. Play calling is awful given what a talent he has at QB.

Great set of games yesterday and was impressed with the Rams Defence, stand out set of players across all three games.

The Buccs defence would concern me, got sliced apart quite readily by a 4/5th choice QB.

As for todays games, part of me thinks the Titans will beat up again on the Ravens who lose in big spots, particularly in the cold recently, but then again, the Tennessee defence is whack.

Would expect the Steelers to win and I think they have been forgotten a little. They still have plenty of blue chippers on both sides of the ball.

Titans Ravens is a pretty good game so far, but think we're now into Derrick time

Definitely was not at his best!

Soul destroying game to watch, but you have to respect that Rams defence.

Bears offence just getting flattened by the Saints.

They have certainly forgotten to turn up for the 1st Q :eek::eek:

Almost near perfect from the Browns. Love it.

People will poo poo the Saints performance but they are 1 inch Brees sneak and a wrongly overturned Defensive turnover touchdown from winning the game 35-9. Then it would be looked at a lot different.

Saints vs Buccs will be a cracker.

I am intrigued by the Rams vs the Packers however the most, purely as I enjoyed the defensive side of their game. Ramsey vs Davante Adams.

Bills vs Ravens will be a cracker hopefully, with the bills run defence, surely a concern.

Go Pack Go!

Woah Buffalo. Taron Johnson with the defensive play of the season.

102 yds. Post season record.

Clearly only 101 Yards!

I was quoting the Spanish language comms who are very frequently incorrect. Although if you pause on his interception it does look more than 1yd into the end zone ... 101.5 yds? ;)

Browns ripped off on initiating contact helmet to helmet no call on Sorenson's
TD saving tackle.
Hugely unlucky that Higgins spill went out of the endzone - weird rule!
Had Cleveland at 22/1 to win the AFC.

This IS the Bills year.

Rodgers vs Brady, Mahomes vs Allen. Delicious QB matchups, and fun team match ups in general. Can’t wait for the championships and the super bowl.

They keep saying that takeways win Play Off games but if you make 4 then they certainly do.
Is that the end of Brees?

Hope not but he has high ambition and I don't think he would risk his health for another season unless he thought he could reach another SuperBowl

Admire Drew Brees but I'm hoping there were thousands of arrogant Saints fans crying into their 'who dats'

Brees has got a fat TV contract waiting for him next season. Be interesting to see how he does as an analyst. I like Tony Romo as a commentator much more than i ever liked him as a QB - maybe thats a Dallas thing though.....

No - I think it's a fair call. Romo's my favourite analyst - breaks everything down clearly and often picks up little finesses before they happen.

Apart from the end of the Browns/Chiefs game last night..... lol

First time this season the Packers used 3 running backs in a game.
Practicing the run game with an eye to beating the Chiefs.

I’d check your source, brother kayjay.

That’s not true. They’ve used the Jones/Dillon/Williams combination a few times this season.

Fox commentary brother!
Aaron Rodgers has been my fantasy QB this season so checking Packers stats every week. Can't remember Dillon getting a start myself so happy to go with
Kevin Burkhardt's offsider.

Gabba test result teetering.

Bit gutted by the Saints. They've been solid all season, one of the best, just one game.

They’re kinda screwed next season, have to shed about 100 mil of salary cap!

Seems to be overall season hasn't counted for a lot in the post season.

It never does for the Saints, awful bottlers.

Saints should have pulled Brees at the half. Was completely washed.

They still have lots of good pieces however to build around, even if they will need to shed a few "stars".

The Browns should be feeling good. If they can use free agency and draft the improve their secondary and pick up a star WR to compliment Chubb and Hunt, they could be back for more playoff action next season. A bit more luck with injuries would help too

Ashley Mallett would have rolled through them.

Did he play for the Dockers?

Panthers being mooted as favourites to sign Deshaun Watson. But at what cost?

2 First Rounders and a CMC? More? Less?

I gotta think starting price is three 1st round picks with at least one of those a Top 5 pick this year. Unless, somehow the Texans get back a legit starting QB.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-deshaun...houston-texans

Is Watson any good? I can't pretend to have watched a whole lot of NFL this year, just kept an eye on the Panthers results. Team needs a lot more than a shiny new QB in all honesty.

Three straight Pro Bowls with a 104.5 career Passer Rating as a 25 year old.

Fair dos. Just think that as good as this guy may be (very good judging by those stats!), we have a lot more issues to solve too.

The point most are making are that he's so good, you won't have to fix most of those issues

Utter class.

Also as for the Panthers, they were in rebuild last year with a new coach who drafted All defensive players with every pick in the draft, which was unheard of.

Also had arguably the best dual threat running back out for all of the year.

If they got Watson this year, particularly with the 3 QBs in their division all having doubts (Brees not returning, Brady being Brady, and Matt Ryan on the hotseat) particularly in the long run.

We will see. :D

This team have given me so much hope in the past then let me down. Like losing to the Broncos with a 107 year old Peyton Manning.