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jazman 25-05-2011 08:17 PM

I'm sure Manning and Rodgers would be better going down a waterslide than Brady though .. ;)

saxoneagle 25-05-2011 08:35 PM

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I'm sure Manning and Rodgers would be better going down a waterslide than Brady though .. ;)

Manning's oversized head would get stuck in the slide :D

pauldrulez 25-05-2011 09:14 PM

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Manning is the best QB in the league, Paul.

Give me the reasons for it, you can't make a 9 word statement without backing it up.

jazman 25-05-2011 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by saxoneagle
Manning's oversized head would get stuck in the slide :D

:D :D

pauldrulez 25-05-2011 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jazman
I'm sure Manning and Rodgers would be better going down a waterslide than Brady though .. ;)

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll...lcbeo1_500.jpg

http://lolpats.tumblr.com

Some quality insults and funny bits on there

pauldrulez 25-05-2011 09:16 PM

Like this

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll...lcbeo1_500.jpg

pauldrulez 25-05-2011 09:17 PM

And, i'm not saying Manning's not the best QB in the world. In terms of talent etc, he may be the best.

In fact, I often wonder if given the chance, who BB would take.

For me, They are 1A and 1B of this generation. You can't separate them and i've always said that on here.

jazman 25-05-2011 09:21 PM

Brilliant. SportsNation were loving it this week ...

Michelle Beadle :love:

Vince Hilaire's Afro 25-05-2011 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
And, i'm not saying Manning's not the best QB in the world. In terms of talent etc, he may be the best.

In fact, I often wonder if given the chance, who BB would take.

For me, They are 1A and 1B of this generation. You can't separate them and i've always said that on here.

But why is Steven Miranda not allowed to think Peyton Manning is the best?

pauldrulez 25-05-2011 09:39 PM

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But why is Steven Miranda not allowed to think Peyton Manning is the best?

Not because of that. He wouldn't give reasoning.

Nor accept that Manning had his worst year last season.

You can argue Brady vs Manning until it gets childish, but his statement was "RIGHT NOW, Manning is best QB, period."

Based on last year, I'd have Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, Brees ahead of him.

If he plays like 09, he's probably the best.

pauldrulez 25-05-2011 09:40 PM

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Brilliant. SportsNation were loving it this week ...

Michelle Beadle :love:

This show is the ony reason I'm still subscribed to ESPN

Vince Hilaire's Afro 25-05-2011 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Not because of that. He wouldn't give reasoning.

Nor accept that Manning had his worst year last season.

You can argue Brady vs Manning until it gets childish, but his statement was "RIGHT NOW, Manning is best QB, period."

Based on last year, I'd have Brady, Rodgers, Ryan, Brees ahead of him.

If he plays like 09, he's probably the best.

Yeah but if, and if it's a big if, Jimmy Clausen has a blinding year and out-stats Brady because maybe some of the Patriots weapons get injured or something, you wouldn't say Clausen is a better QB. (Forget it being an if - it's clearly a hypothetical/fantasy situation).

But my point is really, does he have to give a reason? It surely comes down to personal preference - all the QBs you've mentioned are top quality future hall of famers, although you seem to have left Jake Delhomme off by accident.

Swanny32 25-05-2011 09:55 PM

Based on quality, ability to read the D, and overall leadership and passion, Manning wins by miles. Ok he was a bit naff last year but let's face it, he didn't have a great running game to help him out and the Colts receivers took one hell of a battering throughout the season.

Swanny32 25-05-2011 09:57 PM

And his no huddle offence and dual play calling is a sight to behold, love watching the Colts when they are in that mode.

jazman 25-05-2011 10:06 PM

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This show is the ony reason I'm still subscribed to ESPN

Another thing I like is the short stories between programmes, most of them you would probably not know about if it wasn't for them. Heart warming a lot of them.

pauldrulez 25-05-2011 10:12 PM

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And his no huddle offence and dual play calling is a sight to behold, love watching the Colts when they are in that mode.

The one thing I can argue against this, is that Brady is at his best in the 2 minute drill.

The thing about Manning's no huddle is that he keeps a defense on the field and tires them out as they can't make substitutions.

His hand signals and calls make it memorable to fans as well, but a lot of QBs do their adjustments with a nod of a head or a tug on the facemask.

He is fluid, but he's only had one system to do within the 13 years he's been in the league.

peagle 25-05-2011 10:15 PM

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Not because of that. He wouldn't give reasoning.

I think a lot of it is pretty subjective though in that position. Like I think Brady probably has the record with 3 superbowls but I would still probably say I'd rather have Manning in the clutch. Now that's massively swayed by my experience of wathing the two rather than anything serious.

peagle 25-05-2011 10:17 PM

[QUOTE=pauldrulez]The one thing I can argue against this, is that Brady is at his best in the 2 minute drill.
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And yet I'm never confident when we are down with 2 mins on the ball but I would be confident that Manning would beat me in the same situation. I've only really been wathing the Pats in the last 2 seasons though.

pauldrulez 25-05-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny32
Based on quality, ability to read the D, and overall leadership and passion, Manning wins by miles. Ok he was a bit naff last year but let's face it, he didn't have a great running game to help him out and the Colts receivers took one hell of a battering throughout the season.

In terms of a Running game, it's not like he hasn't had the chance, he's got 2 first round picks in the backfield.

But, like the Pats, Pack and other teams with top Passers, you only need to have a threat of a pass to be able to run the ball. That's why Green-Ellis got his 1000 yards last year. It's why Addai got so many yards in SB44.

In terms of being able to read the D, I think the top QB's are inch-perfect at that.

Agree on the Receivers, when Blair White can step in and get 2 Touchdowns in a game, you know you're good.

pauldrulez 25-05-2011 10:24 PM

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And yet I'm never confident when we are down with 2 mins on the ball but I would be confident that Manning would beat me in the same situation. I've only really been wathing the Pats in the last 2 seasons though.

But, how many times were the Pats left needing points on the last drive? I think in 2009, there were 4 games we needed points and Brady came up with the goods twice. And that was just after his injury.

And last year, there was only the Ravens game, and Brady took it to OT.

Either way, I just want football back, as we go over this argument year after year.

And the answer will always change.

After 07, Brady was the best. After 08+09, Manning was the best. After 10, Brady looked like the best.

I can't wait for December, Brady vs Manning again. In Foxboro, where it isn't Peyton's Place. ;)


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