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ExiledStirling 07-01-2022 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 16195203)
I think that would be out as the bails would have left the stumps, or as they say "dislodged".

Oh, maybe I am wrong then.

Latvian Eagle 07-01-2022 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 16195203)
I think that would be out as the bails would have left the stumps, or as they say "dislodged".

Scrap this, the bails have to actually fall from the stumps to be out. So if they landed back intact it wouldn't be out.

El Aguila 07-01-2022 11:38 AM

Bairstow's carrying quite a bit of timber.

Latvian Eagle 07-01-2022 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ExiledStirling (Post 16195207)
Oh, maybe I am wrong then.

Apparently the bails have to actually fall from the stumps to be out. :moo:

Olympian2 07-01-2022 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 16195196)
Wow. When I read it had hit his stumps I assumed it had rolled along the ground and come to rest against them. Don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like that sort of connection that hasn’t managed to dislodge the bails.

I'm sure there's an incident when the the stumps are hit, the bails go up into the air & fall back in their places.... :p

EDIT : Ahh, I see Baffled Bob mentioned that very scenario. Yes, it's definitely happened. NOT OUT.

ExiledStirling 07-01-2022 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 16195211)
Apparently the bails have to actually fall from the stumps to be out. :moo:

That is what I thought until you put doubt in my mind :)

Olympian2 07-01-2022 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 16195210)
Bairstow's carrying quite a bit of timber.

Yeah, he has been for a while. I was going to mention it but I thought it would be somewhat churlish seeing as he's an English batsman who just scored an Ashes ton Down Under :p

art malice 07-01-2022 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by El Aguila (Post 16195210)
Bairstow's carrying quite a bit of timber.

A spectator told him as much as he walked off for tea (and cake probably).

Bairstow wasn't having it.

ExiledStirling 07-01-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by art malice (Post 16195217)
A spectator told him as much as he walked off for tea (and cake probably).

Bairstow wasn't having it.

I did wonder what that was about

Worksop Palace 07-01-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16195212)
I'm sure there's an incident when the the stumps are hit, the bails go up into the air & fall back in their places.... :p

EDIT : Ahh, I see Baffled Bob mentioned that very scenario. Yes, it's definitely happened. NOT OUT.

Are they not deemed to be dislodged if they leave the stumps, and therefore out, even if they land back in place? Certainly are for run outs I think?

spike 07-01-2022 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 16195211)
Apparently the bails have to actually fall from the stumps to be out. :moo:

Yeah, there have been similar situations where they've used Zing bails, where the bail has been temporarily dislodged, causing it to light up, and then settled back in in the groove again. It was correctly adjudicated not out.

Worksop Palace 07-01-2022 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by art malice (Post 16195217)
A spectator told him as much as he walked off for tea (and cake probably).

Bairstow wasn't having it.

All part of the fun. I remember Stuart McGill getting an almighty shallacking before the 4th day at TB in 2005, while they were warming up. Can’t remember which one of his team mates - I seem to recall Langer or the other opener at the time - properly lost his shit. Tremendous start to a fabulous day that was :D

spike 07-01-2022 11:54 AM

And to settle any arguments:
29.1.1 The wicket is put down if a bail is completely removed from the top of the stumps, or a stump is struck out of the ground,
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29.1.2 The disturbance of a bail, whether temporary or not, shall not constitute its complete removal from the top of the stumps, but if a bail in falling lodges between two of the stumps this shall be regarded as complete removal.

Wolfnipplechips 07-01-2022 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 16195224)
Are they not deemed to be dislodged if they leave the stumps, and therefore out, even if they land back in place? Certainly are for run outs I think?

Not if they land back on the stumps.

You are getting confused with when the bail is dislodged prior to it being completely removed.

Tomo 07-01-2022 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16195216)
Yeah, he has been for a while. I was going to mention it but I thought it would be somewhat churlish seeing as he's an English batsman who just scored an Ashes ton Down Under :p

He is also still absolutely ******* rapid!

gold76 07-01-2022 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ExiledStirling (Post 16194755)
Give me baseball anytime over the short forms of cricket they keep trying to market. Just to think the old one day cricket Gillette Cup was 60 overs per innings.

Has cricket picked up in the US at all?

There was a cracking series of legends games played, must have been about 5 years ago.

They used a baseball pitch, I'm guessing Chicago, but I know bugger all, I only remember as they had a train inside the ground.

gold76 07-01-2022 01:15 PM

Bairstow to open next game for Habeeb? If fit..

spike 07-01-2022 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gold76 (Post 16195337)
Has cricket picked up in the US at all?

There was a cracking series of legends games played, must have been about 5 years ago.

They used a baseball pitch, I'm guessing Chicago, but I know bugger all, I only remember as they had a train inside the ground.

They beat Ireland last month in a limited over game (can't remember if it was 20 or 50 overs). I haven't checked how ex-patty their team is these days to tell if this is down to player development or not.

spike 07-01-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gold76 (Post 16195339)
Bairstow to open next game for Habeeb? If fit..

I think they may have to draw lots among the fit players to see who opens (after they've told Hameed and Crawley to eff off first).

Stockport_Eagle 07-01-2022 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 16195193)
Pride?

OK, to avoid the ignomy of a 5-0 defeat!


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