Sue Perkins is indeed very annoying. Not, however, as annoying as her partner Mel Giedroyc.

Chris "Crosse and" Blackwell did as well, but Peter Tosh saw through the deceit by hilariously calling him Chris Whiteworst.

As for your other point, Sue Perkins is a plum.

Did he put on that voice?

This^ is an extremely incorrect opinion.

Yes.

Tony Crozier was from Barbados. He didn't culturally appropriate anything.

As was his brother Adam, but he appropriated the Scots.

Agreed.

What about Tony Cozier? He was the Rachel Dolezal of his time :veryangry London born and bred and the son of a Baronet; educated at Norland Place, Colet Court and St Paul's; then "read" History at Maudlin College.

Bit of a sneaky edit there, Wolfie.

Bods who can’t spot the obvious joke.

No edit?

You deleted my "^" which proved that your opinion was incorrect, not mine.

I did no such thing.

Robert Peston. The pauses. For god's sake, just spit it out.

Eh? He was born, and lived his whole life in Barbados. Educated in Barbados and "read" journalism in Ottawa. Or have I been whooshed somehow.

Really annoying. Pausing doesn’t make you sound more intellectual.

Good lord.

Your humour's way too subtle me. Sorry.

What have you been obscurely waffling on about the re Cozier, for days now? Nearly replied the other day.
He is Bajan. White. He’s not culturally appropriating anything, especially as he is dead.
Odd.

I'm not sure that "humour" is the right word, and you missed out a "for".

That RAF reservist recruitment radio ad. You know the one, ‘A nice book...a nice relax on the sofa...is nice what you really want or is nice not satisfying you?’ ‘Life as an RAF reservist will satisfy that urge with, mountain climbing, truck driving, helicopter flying weekends!!’ ARGHHH!

‘So when Monday comes and Jackie asks you what you’ve been up to, you can say you’ve had more than just a nice weekend.’

Yeah join the army you sad lonely ugly geek loser, so that hot bird in the office who you fancy and never looks twice at you as she’s well out of your league will suddenly think your James Bond.

Well, it worked for Mark Francois...

I think it's "Dave" who asks you what you've been up to. Well, "Dave" can **** off.

What bollocks it is though. A nice relax on the sofa and a couple of hours of Beethoven will do me just fine. The last thing I want to do is schlepp bags of rocks round the countryside all day and all night in the pissing rain, scare my bollocks off by getting in a helicopter, or repeatedly have to call some spotty brainless oik "Sir" and do everything he tells me no matter how ridiculous and pointless. I'm certainly not doing any of those things to impress "Dave". Or "Jackie".

And when I was still fit enough to climb mountains I could do that quite happily on my own thank you very much.

:D

The army isnt the RAF.

ELO playing Roll Over Beethoven doesnt count as "a couple of hours of Beethoven" you pretentious spaffsack.

The end of the Special K that turns into milky gloop

I think I joined the gym for that purpose, that didn't work either.

Croham Hurst girl IIRC.

Have to say I would rank her and Mel Giedroyc the other way around.

Giles Coren.

Bubbs you are a man after my own heart.....i don't think i've lost my shit quite so much over a radio advert before and it's bloody incessant. They've even dared to repeat it during some advert segments on more than one occasion.

I beat you to him several hundred pages ago. What a smug wanker.

It's that 'Born in some Northern Shithouse, made in the Navy' ad that grinds my gears.

You or Giles?

It might have been pretentious if I couldn't actually play it. I have no knowledge of this ELO of which you speak but it sounds more your level than mine.

In the meantime your disgusting abuse says more about you than about me and you can go back in.

Let me know when you too have conducted his symphonies in front of paying audiences who applauded at the end of the performance and then you can call me "pretentious". Alternatively you can have your pick of the piano sonatas. HTH.

*plonk*

They might have been applauding to thank the Lord it was over.

Just out of a matter of interest have you ever been to a concert when the audience didn't applaud?

Hes only ever been to one in his own mind.

Good call. I would dearly love to headbutt the twat.

If there's no audience, they cant applaud.

Yes. But that is hardly the point.

The punt is that you posted a whole load of pompously pretentious nonsense, and tried to pass it off as serious comment.

Errm I mentioned a classical composer in passing. How is that pretentious?

I then talked about something I had actually done in real life, but that was real and true. Surely it's only "pretentious" or "nonsense" if I made it up?

And being pompous doesn't breach the rules of the BBS. Language like *that* jolly well does and nobody here is going to bully me into accepting it.

you didn’t make it ‘in passing’. And you admitted that anyone who had conducted an orchestra could legitimately called you pretentious;
That seems to be an admission that it is pretentious, only you seem to be picky about who can point it out.

It is this pompous separation of classical music from other music that is a key barrier to people enjoying classical music as they should.

The new Google Pixel 4A having a fingerprint sensor on the back. WHY?? Cant use it with a case. I really think they should get real people to give feed back, not up their own arse engineers.

Actually I don't care who can point it out and I don't give a toss if you think I am being pompous. Sometimes I can be pompous. My father was pompous. My wife says I can be pompous sometimes. We all know Trolley / Willo FFS. We all have our faults.

But there is no excuse, none whatsoever, for addressing another member of the BBS in those terms and nothing I said deserved that.

Pompous, pretentious jizz bucket.

Reminds me of a project I came into in the early days of remote working. They'd implemented this solution using USB RSA fobs, that you inserted, and it gave you a randomly generated number to type in. They were so proud of what was a cutting edge solution for its time.

The look on the project managers face when I pointed out all the laptops we use only had rear USB ports has stuck with me ever since.

Unsurprisingly the User Acceptance Testing did not go well

ROTFL!

Of course there is a bit more to it than that but it's fairly apposite. I found conducting technique far easier (as in orders of magnitude) than playing instruments and thought that actually many of the players could have done it with a few weeks' practice, a good knowledge of the score, and Brock McElheran's (quite thin) book on the subject. And Beethoven is distinctly at the easy end of the repertoire.

Brilliant:D must spread etc

Simon Rattled

Yeah, we can all use google.

This is the only conducting you've ever done

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._conductor.JPG

chateauferret must be a wum, surely?

Plonk

Really? Why? The ungrateful bastards.
Personally I've always thought the adoration for conductors entirely unwarranted. Yeah good job mate, well wafted and waved, but its the musicians who deserve the plaudits not you.

The reason they didn't clap on that occasion had nothing to do with their attitude or the performance but because it was a rehearsal orchestra.

Did you bother to read what I said about how easy conducting technique was compared to instrumental technique? The only thing you really need that the players don't have is a thorough knowledge of the score. Playing instruments OTOH is bloody hard and takes a decade or two of daily practice and study. I guess you also haven't seen a conductor present his players to the audience at the end of the concert, then leave the stage whilst they remain standing.

I don't think being a professional orchestral musician is much fun.

Of course I have. **** me it would be the height of hubris if they didn't! But you cannot tell me conductors don't love to lap it up too.

Some of them certainly do. I tended to scuttle off as quickly and discreetly as possible :-)

It should also be pointed out that the conductor is only the musical director. What you see on the stage (at least for professional orchestras) is just like the fruit body of a mushroom, underneath there are many times as many people again working full time to make it happen that you don't see or notice. As for our (amateur) group the real leader and the one who made it happen was one of the viola players who really recruited everyone else (including me), organised the rehearsals, the concerts, the publicity, the finance, even the sheet music and without her nobody would have played a note. And the minute she graduated and left the whole thing couldn't continue; the fact that the conductor was still around was neither here nor there.

and
So it was a rehearsal not a proper concert?

Good grief. That was something entirely different separated by about twenty years and five hundred miles.

That was years and years before I ever conducted anything. At that university there were a few orchestras which existed for people who wanted to play but didn't want or couldn't get into the various performance orchestras. They rehearsed for a term and performed the work informally at the end but not in front of anything you would call an audience. Another thing that sometimes happened was a turn up and play on spec, maybe for charity, but this time without rehearsing - you would just read through the works, again without a proper audience. This was in the late eighties.

The orchestra I conducted was a real orchestra; it performed in front of audiences of up to 300 people, it sold tickets for a modest fee to cover its costs, and performed on five occasions with works including Beethoven 5 and 6, Haydn 101, Dvorak 9 and Schubert 6. It was the only orchestra at this (my second) university, which did not have a music faculty, although there was also a town amateur orchestra which was bigger and better than us and which was comprised more of accomplished lifelong amateurs and ex-professionals, whereas we were more students; however quite a few people played in both and we had to get guests for some roles (try finding a bassoonist in Scotland); and we never performed the same repertoire. This group ran from 2001 until 2003 (five semesters). The university also had a largeish choral society, which drew many people from the town as well as students, performed with conservatory orchestras and was conducted by one of the lecturers, whose qualifications to do that were similar to mine, although his experience was far greater than mine.

Sorry to disappoint but I did state in the first place that it was in front of paying audiences.

Ahhhh the sweet smell of arse covering BS

They called passengers, spaffsack. HTH

https://www.macfilos.com/wp-content/...865ede_img.jpg

People who cant be straight, just had to deal with one of my now ex players parents who feel its ok to lie and not be straight with me about their child was leaving for another club.

Scrap Kings advert with the fat geezer at the end yapping about "more money"

An advert for a perfume called Perfect with a succession of women repetitively saying ‘ perfect’.

You are Roy Hodgson and I claim my 5 quid .:D

Are they all waitresses?

I managed to smash the screen on my iPad Pro the other night which was slightly annoying but it gave me the excuse to replace it with a shiny new model.

What I hadn’t considered is that Apple won’t let you reinstall any apps that it had subsequently removed from their App Store, so I lost the Universal TV Sports app which was excellent for watching live games on dodgy feeds with minimal hassle.

So, having spunked the best part of a grand on a new iPad, I’m now faced with having to spend another £250 getting the screen fixed on my old device just to watch Palace games on Universal TV.

That’s bloody annoying.

iPads cost a grand these days? Good lord.

That’s for a relatively low spec version of the pro.

But that wasn’t what annoyed me.

We got sent one by EE for nothing.:cool:

It was at this point that I persuaded the Mrs. that it might be a good idea to renegotiate our phone contract. It certainly was.

No such thing as a free iPad...

I am not quite as stupid as I appear and realised that the price wasn't the annoyance. Mind you, quite why anyone would pay £250 to watch Palace - or any football for that matter - is beyond me.

:D

Things that annoy you
 

But you can get a much more reliable stream service using IPTV for circa £50 a year BE using numerous apps that are available on the App Store. Sub to one of them, take your choice of app and you’re away ....on your shiny new expensive iPad.

I should have just written IVE GOT A BRAND NEW SHINY IPAD THAT COST A GRAND and be done with it.

RIP Universal Sports TV Plus.

Apple just arent very good, are they.

As a company no, they are ***** of the highest order.

You need to copy and paste this also into the "Middle Class problems" thread.

Starting price I think. The mid-range costs you your spleen and the top of the range costs you your firstborn.

Not cheap at all.

You really need to let this Beatles obsession go.

Ill try.

Sell the ipad to whoever offers to repair the screen, just do the 'restore as new ipad' option first (it won't restore the screen though).

That would defeat the object of trying to retain an app that is no longer available from the App Store.

Common sense would be to sell the shiny new iPad and retain the repaired one.

Forget the app.

Went into a vitamin store this morning to get my Vitamin A for my eyes (doctor's suggestion).

I found them on the shelf, but they have changed the labeling and the units from IU's to mcg's so I had to ask the shop assistant if I had the right one.

Big mistake... guy goes into full used car salesman mode, trying to sell me every vitamin from A to Z. He wouldn't let it go FFS!

And they wonder why people buy this stuff on line. I would have done this time as I have in the past but they have a minimum for free shipping, and this particular product cost less than the shipping would have been.

You have shops that just sell vitamins in that America?

Pretty much, yes.

Plus diet supplements and the like.

https://www.gnc.com/

And we call them Vyte-a-mins not vit-a-mins! (TBF this one still confuses me)

A bit like Holland and Barrett in the UK.

H&B aren't known as a "vitamin store/shop" though.

Same thing though.

They call aluminium aloo-minum, maths math, Lego legos.

Basically they have ferked up English.

The second week of September and poppy nazism has started already.

Usually started by the kind of people whose politics are what the soldiers being honoured were fighting against.

That's nothing Mrs KM spotted the first Christmas puddings in the super market yesterday.

Probably left over from last year.

If it is, buy it - it'll taste so much better than it would have done at Christmas last year! :)

Thinking about making one this year, never tried it before.