Oh absolutely, that too. :)

It’s not saving me any money though because I have about 200 books stacked up to read that I needn’t have bought. Oops. They were bargains though :)

Not the value, but the costs. Distribution and printing. It’s the comparison of the medium not the intrinsic value of the words which should be the same for both. My original point had more to do with the price of his first book as an unpublished author more than the ‘channel’ though.

As I said earlier I shall no doubt end up buying it anyway.

When the annoyance becomes mote annoying than the original thing.

When you’re my age, you tend to buy a book, get home and find you’ve already bought it. Fortunately, Bromley Waterstone’s are understanding. I can’t manage 200 but probably a couple of dozen waiting to be read bought over a year or so.

For what it’s worth, I agreed with the rest of your post, it’s just that bit that seemed at odds to the rest of it.

My point was that I’d expect the bulk of the cost to go to the author, with any difference in price being based on whether it’s a printed or digital version. Seeing as, even on a relatively short print run, it’s less than a pound, to print a paperback with a coloured cover, I’d expect any difference to be about a pound.

People expecting to buy a 9.99 paperback book for 2.99 in a digital format, surely think that the method of distribution is the major value in their purchase?

Ha! Yer JK Rowlings and AFBs perhaps.

It's pretty ridiculous that we pay VAT on digital books but not on paper ones TBF.

Thanks for expanding, it’s interesting. I would hope the bulk goes to the author but I didn’t think it did. But as you suggest, I may be mistaken.

........Actually You got me interested and so I just looked it up and apparently the publisher gives a royalty of 8-12% of the sale price to the author. So printing, distribution publisher are taking the bulk. I am guessing that’s the wholesale price that the publisher sells it to the retailer but it could include retail % I guess. I didn’t dig that deep. Your point re printing still stands.

With self publishing and self marketing growing I guess this is changing. I would think Amazon promoting a book these days has a massive impact but again that’s a guess.

Thanks.

Yeah, I am with you. They are digital books btw. It’s way too easy to see the daily deals etc and lob them in the basket :)

As you say, as you get older things change. you only need 3 or 4 books because by the time you have read the last one you can’t remember what the first one was all about and you can start again! :) :) not quite there yet but did get a chapter into one recently before I realised I had already read it :) wife did the same last week as it happens - oops.

I maybe being dumb here or stating the obvious... I'm not sure, but if the author is deceased I assume it goes to their estate/heirs?

Like Martin H, I did a quick look up:

Still need to find out about old authors like Dickens, Stevenson etc..

Apparently:

It gets on my nerves on the BBS when someone posts something relevant to a question being asked, and then just a couple of posts later someone else posts exactly the same thing. Is it that feckin' hard to just read the last few posts before you post? I'm not suggesting people should re-read the whole thread when it's multiple pages.

It gets on my nerves on the BBS when someone posts something relevant to a question being asked, and then just a couple of posts later someone else posts exactly the same thing. Is it that feckin' hard to just read the last few posts before you post? I'm not suggesting people should re-read the whole thread when it's multiple pages.

:-)

Ba boom tishhhhhh........ :)

I had a bit of a look into this as (after ordering) I realised I'd bought a John Coltrane record which was released by a so-called "grey market" label where no royalties are paid.

It's 70 years in EU and US.

Others vary but at least 50 years is common as most countries are signatories to the Berne Convention.

It was 50 years prior to 1993 in the EU, which seemigly wasn't retrospective which means European labels can release reissues of 50+ years old records without paying any royalties.

The US has been 70 years in 1989, but appears to be retrospective as there aren't US labels putting out these "grey market" reissues. Anything before 1925 was considered to be in the public domain and free from copyright.

There are slightly different rules between literature, art, music and tv/radio broadcasts.

That's as I understand it, happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

I cancelled the order in any case, will get a bonafide reissue or a second hand copy.

I was thinking about this. At a rate of one book per fortnight and if I live for another 20 years, I've only got about 500 books to read before I croak which is a bit disappointing.

The Foo Fighters. A subtlety free zone.

And the greasy haired c*nt plays a drum solo. Why?

Not as annoying as Nirvana.

It's a close run thing.

Insomnia

None of them. 70 years after the death of the author. Steinbeck outlived Hemmingway. 60 years or so since the death of the later.

Interestingly, it's been 70 years since Orwell died.

Greene only died in 1991.

Too soon.

Telegram edit.

People getting all worked up about something they're completely wrong about and demanding that something that is already in place be put in place

The fact that Paddy McGuinness keeps getting TV work.
The wait for Andrew’ Freddie’ Flintoff to disappear into obscurity.
Dermot Murnaghan

Furniture delivery times. Should it really take 12 weeks to get a bed or a sideboard to you?

I'm not sure this annoys me as such, more that it's flabbergasting

I've seen it quite a lot recently and today whilst out on my bike. I went past some people chatting with a few dogs running around and one had a pram. As I went past them I noticed that there was not a baby in the prem but a small ugly looking dog. I mean seriously what actually has to be your mind set to take a dog for a walk in a pram

Absolutely barking mad (pun intended)

Had to google it. I think they are called Dog Strollers. If it’s for dogs with arthritis then perhaps fair enough, but if it’s a fashion statement...then oh dear, indeed.

I rarely get annoyed these days. I just accept there are noticeable idiots everywhere.

Looked like a normal pram and healthy dog to me

Absolute wierdos :D

Surely the sort of stuff you are buying for the palaces is bespoke and crafted by experts ... descendants of Chippendale probably ?

I see quite a few in trailers that attach to the rear of a bike when out riding my bike. I believe they are/were designed to carry babies/young children, but seem to work just as well for a small dog.

Funny, you never see an Alsatian riding in them!

Cyclist scum.

Nah, there was no dogs cycling

When you lose something in your house. It has to be in here somewhere - I had it last night.

Empty the dustbin out this morning, emptied every draw, looked under everything.

I know, it will be in the last place I look.

I just found it (the watch my Dad left me). It was annoying.

Was it up Christopher Walken’s bumhole again?

Of course, because
when found you stop looking.

well...exactly....always look in the last place where you expect to find it...First!

:lux:

Conor Gallagher being labelled a Chelsea star by the media when he's never actually played for them above U23s level.

Never had a pram but in the last year of my beautiful little JR Bella's life she slipped a disc and couldn't walk very far.I still felt she enjoyed coming out and about with us and was simulated by the sounds and smells and often carried her or she was on wifes mobility scooter.With hindsight maybe i preserved her life to long!

We are considering at the moment. We have a 13 year old Welsh Springer Spaniel, her hind legs are very weak. She's on pain killers and anti inflammatories. She still has to do 1s and 2s.

I used to think like you. Exercising Ellie is a slog. She moves so slowly.

Just spare a thought for elderly or infirm dogs, rather like you would humans.

Always. Or you give up looking and find it when you least expect to.

That's a difficult decision with pets

I'm right handed, enough of your sinister allegations.

Thats a big yes from the man from Sheppey.

That’s why I always look in the last place first.........

People that drive cars that are too big for them

God yes. And they tend to have no spatial awareness.

Is there a scale for size of car relative to one's height ? I am 6'2" - please advise what I am permitted to drive.

You know what he means.

The author will still get paid even if they are a bit peaky.

Rebuilding the rear suspension on my motor without concentrating meaning I have to start again with another new kit of bits.
Idiot.

I'm going to take a punt in the dark here & guess either a Porsche Cayenne or a Discovery.

What breed was the dog with the pram?

Important to have an off roader in London.

Trouble is cars have got bigger and bigger both in length and width. You used to be able to get two cars coming in opposite directions plus a row of parked cars down out road. Now it’s jammed with people popping in and out the gaps as three cars are impossible today. Car obesity crisis

Tricky stops his car when he sees CP Jimbo having a pop...

Or COC for short.

That’s at least half the population of Park Langley.

Richard will insist that the dimensions of a Chelsea tractor are identical to that of the average saloon.
He used to justify his personal bus by citing increased visibility, because of the high driving position. He wasn't keen on the logic that if everyone bought them there would be no advantage.
Then again, he lives in the wilds of the home counties, where they are, of course, essential.
He could have just said it's a personal choice, but there you go.

Matching car and trousers.

Not that i can talk. Golf does this to you.

Some tourism bloke just said people need to ‘plan forward’ FFS

The new buzz word here is "learnings". Twot Morrison used it the other day. Saying " The learnings we must take from this pandemic" Don't think he started with, so.

Are you sure he didn't say 'lemmings'?

Not sure I agree with this.

In The US, there used to be the big cadillacs etc..

Even in the UK you had Zephyrs, Austin Cambridge estates, Granadas and Cortinas. And via the old Rolls Royce you could have entered Narnia.

Today you have some people carriers and some short penised twats like to drive massive american style trucks and even public versions of military vehicles.

But we have had Range Rovers and Transit vans for a long time.

And there are still small cars around.

Pre cars needed the length of a horse or horses added to them - even the buses. And the very early cars had some kind of steam contraption.

I wouldn't say that the super cars of the 70s were particularly small or an E Type for that matter.

Let's go "on-roading"

Sorry Richard, but :D :D

The difference is the near-ubiquity of large SUVs nowadays. The bastards are everywhere. Some (such as the BMW X7 Series) are so wide they cannot fit into a regular painted street parking space - they have the equivalent of an arse cheek hanging off the mattress.

Sooner or later something will need to be done about them. The UK is full of narrow streets double-lined with parked cars: massive cars are a becoming a public nuisance.

You’re not wrong:lux:

My Mitsubish Galant estate is too long to fit into a lot of spaces, would you consider that massive?

Yes.

And shit.

The higher driving position doesn't do much for visability in spotting a child who is shorter than the bonnet height.

Also, pretty much all cars of all types are bigger now than they used to be. For extreme examples, look at minis, but also look at the size of a modern Golf compared with a Mk 1.

Back in the 60's and 70' there were big cars but they mostly were slim, look at most house garages on older houses to see thus. Cars now are of course longer I think the first Q7 was 2 meters long and also wider. Parking spaces are designed to fit in as many cars as possible soon we all end up with dented doors. Recently Lakeside shopping centre redid all of its car parks, all the spaces now fit mordern cars, its really goid except the wife then wants to get out and waste hours in the shops.

I don't think he was particularly concerned about that - just the road he could see beyond the lower cars in front of him. It was a ludicrous argument.

Yes, the mini is an absolute disaster of a brandicide. Nevertheless, the fact is that most of these small cars are bigger to accommodate safety features.

Yep it’s the side air bags etc but there is still a tendency to make them bigger. Fiesta is now focus size Corsa is Astra and it’s not just the safety. You then throw in 4x4 or MPV or sports ultility into the mix and you get this obesity crisis. Roads get blocked and cars take up two spaces. The should add a width tax like a sugar tax for humans. OR if you want to be really tough only allow car ownership to those with a parking space as they do in Japan
Parking Space Certificate (shako shomeisho)

Thanks Clarkson.
Does the job for me.

:)

More May than Clarkson.

:)

You sicken me.

That's absolutely right. Peter H is way off beam citing Range Rovers as being the same size since the 1970s - the newer ones are vastly bigger than the original models.

I've never understood your argument on this one. Whilst I would usually defer to your much greater knowledge of branding, than mine, given your illustrious career - from my position of relative ignorance, it seems to me that BMW have pulled off a masterstroke with the Mini brand.

They took an iconic brand and completely reinvented it - to create a funky, but well-engineered range of small cars that seem to sell like hot cakes around the world. Buyers clearly love love them - mainly, I suspect, because the designs are based on an iconic one suitably modernised and, most importantly, they know they are buying BMW engineering underneath.

For BMW, they have successfully entered the small car market, with a premium product, and avoided cheapening their "prestige" (yes, I know ...) BMW large car brand. Surely everyone is a winner with the brand engineering ?

Not so sure that is completely true. Whilst crumple zones and airbags must take up some space, my guess is that this is more about the move to global models. In a lot of countries (unlike the UK with our limited space and historically narrow streets), cars are much bigger, so if you are creating a global model, you must produce bigger vehicles to compete with locally-produced models. Asia can be an exception to this (which is why Japan and Korea are the world leaders in small efficient cars) but, even there, the large western models are perceived as status symbols, so have a small, but profitable, market.

Not sure what you were on when you think we had this conversation, but none of the justifications you quote were reasons for my purchases.

And I don't think that the South Downs National Park in West Sussex is a home county.

People who pronounce Zaha, Saha.

Ohhh. Will start searching through the BBS archive. Because it's there, and it was ridiculous.
You can forgive me my lack of detailed knowledge of your address - which could have been construed as some freaky stalking anyway - Andi will forgive your overuse of the dreaded 'iconic' in that BMW post.

I defer to your personal knowledge.

I have always used buses. They are quite large.

If you want to go down the tax route, and reduce street parking etc., pay extra tax on 2nd car ownership per household. Exemption is based on engine size or somesuch.

That way people can have a SUV, but they will pay tax on having an unnecessary second one. Or hopefully wont pay because the second car is a small run around. Catholics can be exempted.

People that get plum jobs despite being a failure at lesser clubs.

Koeman: not good enough for Everton - walks into Barcelona
Solskjaer: rubbish at Cardiff - walks into Man U
Southgate: useless at Boro - gets given the England job

Sometimes there is issues around skillset fit. Zidane would most likely fail in most jobs because he is tactically useless, but he clearly has something of a talent for managing super-egos, so does sort of work at Madrid where many others have failed who I would consider to be more tactically aware.

This generations obsession with Nandos. Queues 2 hours long on the last day of eat out to help out. Its not all that chicken and chips, not worth 2 minutes let alone 2 hours. Get a grip people

Theresa?

Teresa.

Theresa

No.

Yes

(This could be a long game)

It could but it won't be. Google "Teresa May".

Of course. Wouldn't you?

Yes.

It brings up a billion things on Theresa May.

Anyway, haven’t got time for you shenanigans. Got to get the dustbin lid to school.

Sees you later yoof