I should have clarified that the law prohibits handheld devices ; I presume that if you are using a phone that is mounted as a sat nav you are not holding it, so no problem.

Same goes with bluetooth comms.

Thanks Maz, so additional question, if phone is mounted, can I use Spotify/Audible etc as it's not hand held?

I would presume so, yes. No different to using a car radio.

I do not do it but since I have a newer phone I can understand it, its ******* awful for calls hate using it, I direct people to call my landline now if it's an important or long call.

Put mobile to my ear and the persons voice is coming from the top of the phone or the bottom cannot decide but there is no speaker where it should be. End up moving it away from my ear to hear them. All about full screen, I guess. My wife's the same I can hear everything.

I thought it was just me, I can't hear it unless I put it on speaker unless I have some sort of headset/ear thingies. Bizarre that the reason you originally bought it, seems low down the designer's priorities. Flaming thing can be used to film an 8k movie, calculate DNA calculations or play games but make a phone call can be a mysteru on some even let alone hearing it :) BTW, I am no luddite but often puzzled by it.

I agree, so do quite a few people.

https://www.change.org/p/uk-parliame...sposable-bbq-s

Also a few reports of people burnt by residual heat on beaches after they're use and also idiots burying them in the sand.

I was stunned when I heard about people doing this, utter stupidity

Yes the UK Is increasingly populated by total and utter morons, it's so disheartening. I was in Dungeness the other week and some morons had left one on top of a picnic table on the edge of the nature reserve. Thankfully the table was the tough recycled plastic type and it didn't catch fire, just melted a fair bit.

Can I join this club please?

My Mrs has a £10 old Nokia from the 90's and it is MUCH MUCH better than my iphone for calls. Can any one explain why?

Used to see the results of them at the park. Even when they took the BBQ they left behind a patch of burnt grass

Two opposites to this

NZ at the local park. Large Māori family dug a huge hole and put in a load of fire wood. Stuck food in and covered. Great time had by all. Everything back in place and NOT A SPOT of litter to be seen. Only thing you could see was bare earth where the pit was.

Some “new age” travelers stopped locally cut out a chunk of grass. Had a fire pit. Watered the grass and put it back when they left !!

You can do it if you have the sense and motivation. Unfortunately we have so many wankers, especially the ones that use McDonald’s drive throughs and throw their shit out the car windows, in this world.

Possibly the aerial and amp as they have to be tuned to the appropriate frequencies. The old phones only had 2G/3G to contend with but the new phones have to deal with 2G through to 5G signals now and the aerial is a jack of all trades now? Also probably more attention paid in the old phone to call components compared to the myriad of extras packed into new phones like NFC, wifi, GPS etc.

Grown adults slurping the bottom of a drink from a straw. :wallbash::wallbash:

People who bring their dogs into pubs and encourage them up on to the furniture. Your dog doesn’t wipe its arse after it shits, sheds hairs on the seats has trod in god knows what. I haven’t got a problem with dogs but people have to sit where you pet has just sat. Do you allow your dog on your sofa at home? Twat.

Picking the wrong queue in the McDonald’s drive through and being stuck behind a car where the occupants seem to be ordering the whole feckin menu.

Litter (again). The irony of being behind a small van that was having to drive slowly because there was a road sweeper machine going along the gutter. Driver of van proceeds to throw his cigarette butt out the window followed by an empty packet.

Parked the car outside of a restaurant tonight.
No issue until some guy thought it was ok just to lean again it having a cig.
I don’t care he’s near it just don’t lean on it.
He looked amazed when I told him to get off it.

It's called a hungi (sp). Everything goes in meat veggies. It's bloody delicious been to a couple over here.

We all worked this shit out during the pandemic, didn't we? I think a lot of people had some cosy idea of what our countrymen and women were all about - based mainly on our own friends, family and colleagues.

Utter pandemic selfishness, post brexit petrol station chaos, yobbery and thuggery at the Men's Euros and last season, rising crime, reality TV, vacuous bints and sex case footballers are role models, Boris is/was PM to pretty huge popular support, and the utter filth on social media (the trolling of weather forecasters being the latest) - all this seems to point to some moral vacuum. Led by the uncaring, in it for themselves. polticians and billionaires.

If Boris and his team can be involved in all those 'get-togethers' and he could still be broadly supported by the electorate - what does that say about where the British are at. Lots of outrage from the other 50% on sites such as this - but even that is just noise, the online version of tutting. Even the most outraged, and those most affected (in the saddest of ways) weren't exactly protesting outside parliament. They preferred the media in all its forms to protest for them. After all, there was a rumour of a pre-order of a PS5 or possible shipment of a new car to worry about.

:) yep so have I. When I lived in NZ I was always impressed with the neighbourlinesses of the people on the South Island. Where ever we seem to go someone was doing something that they were happy to share. Food, carpets tied on to 4x4 for the kids to be flung about, loaned snow chains, 400 meters of copper cable “pay me when you get your bank account sorted “ help from the school, kids looked after, invites at Christmas, etc all from strangers or people we had only just been introduced to. Fabulous country made by its people.
Just a shame it’s the other side of the bloody world !

Three irritating linguistic tics:

Calling out, as in "you should have called him out for his behaviour". A stupid Americanism - what's wrong with criticise, condemn, challenge?

"I'm living my best life". What's the alternative?

And worst of all "It is what it is". Usually delivered with smug certainty, as though the speaker has just discovered the true meaning of life.

Bang on with the last one. Normally delivered after MOANING about something. Bunch of *****.

Use of 'Reach out' instead of 'make contact'

Apparently goes back to an American TV ad from the 1970's?

I know, sometimes it is just what it is, init :)

Yep, unfortunately that's just the way it is, and some things will never change.

But don't you believe them.

The “It is what it is” individual should just say “that is how the cookie crumbles”. That would sum up philosophy.

The month of July. See you next year, you bore-a-thon.

Spelt "hangi" but the a sounds like half not hang, so your "phonetic" spelling is pretty good.

I also hate make contact. Make contact with what? A sock full of sand! How about, "spoke/communicated/corresponded with"? All are what you have actually done, not some vague cliched metaphor.

To 'make contact' covers ALL your suggested alternatives. 'Reach Out' however means nothing.

Should only be used by members of the Four Tops.

Damn you palacemetros . I was going to use that one, :veryangry

Calling you out is okay..

...perhaps it is aggressive from the class..and is the prelude to a 'fight, fight, fight'.

And there was me thinking it was a song by the Four Tops.

How touch base?

Better than touching cloth.

Players who stick their tongue out when they score which the BBC and other publications see as somekind of magical moment, and players who bite a medal in their teeth when winning one. Nunez Darwin has done both of these boring cliches yesterday and captured by BBC football. I wonder if his arms are covered in tattoos for another footballer cliche.

Spanish milk. On day 1 it tastes like nothing. By day 2 it's gone off.

That new Sky Sports "Once" advert.

Hehe :)

Do you think it is the heat?

Just to let you know that I got your Bruce Hornsby ref.

I used to get on really well with a colleague of mine until she adopted 'It takes a village to raise a child' as an e-mail sign off.....

I work with a guy that has a Steve Jobs quote in his signature. What a prat.

Thanks, means a lot to me :D

:D

Eh? Which brand? Are you keeping it in the fridge after opening it?

I don't know the brand as I'm home now. "Going off on day 2 a slight exaggeration", but doesn't last like it does at home (obvs keeping it at 5 degrees in a fridge). It certainly doesn't taste of anything.

I noticed the Spanish seemed to be buying a lot of UHT.

Nearly all UHT over here, in my experience.
Agree it doesn’t taste of anything but I would say it almost never goes off.

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Always did prefer Olympian1... :(

Great track that

It took me a second to get that...

Very good!

You cheeky boche schweinhund.

Oink-woof ;-)

not gonna lie - footballers who take their top off to celebrate a goal. It does my head in. It doesn't make any sense and you get booked for doing it. If I was a manager I'd fine any player that did it and drop them from the next game.

Yep, pretty dumb.

However i did do a double take when i realised that this was happening on Saturday!! ))):D

You should have seen what happened Sunday

ooops ))):D:clown:

Does it balls.

A spirited defence of Spanish milk.

Maybe he just put the wrong Leche in his coffee? :rolleyes:

Trying to cancel my contract with Virgin Media.

Chat shit, get banged.

Every time a team member from the winning euro champs team is interviewed, they get asked, ‘Has it sunk in yet?’


FFs

Good luck with that :wallbash::wallbash::wallbash:

:wallbash::wallbash: It is a nightmare with all of the major players TalkTalk was the lastest to drive me to the brink of utter fustration. The battle on a contract I had not agreed they assumed I would so they were not entitled to add contract termination charge. Basically changed cintract termination date instead of going on to standard rate. Which they still charged. They were offering a free Alexa which if you accepted added 18 months to the contract. I ignored it never got it never accepted the link. However seems the IT dept at Talk Talk assumed everyone offered it would.

Scamming has become legitimised in the UK.

Is she saying that she can't be bothered to look after her own child and expects the rest of the village to do so?

This absolutely incredible piece of parking.

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It's the lack of a badge that puts this into context.

I spent 5 hours either waiting on the phone or on a Whatsapp chat. When I eventually spoke to someone they told me that the system was down and wouldn't be able to process my cancellation.

I persevered with the Whatsapp chat and quoted their website.

"You may get a better introductory offer with another provider, and you might also get a better deal if you bundle all your services together from a single supplier. If you decide to switch, you’ll need to give us 30 days’ notice by calling 0345 454 1111, but if you cancel after your contract ends on 03/08/2022 you won’t have any early termination fees to pay."

No mention of a disconnection charge and two months rental, that they were trying to stiff me out of.


I stuck with it and they eventually they said the contract will be cancelled, and I will get a refund of about a fiver.

I only had broadband, standard tv offering and a landline that I have never used. The reason, I decided to leave was the rather lovely way they broke the news to me about the charge going up.

"Like many of our customers, you've been enjoying a lower price of £48.00 a month with us. When your contract comes to an end on 03/08/2022, it will then change to £73.25 a month"

I recently discovered that we can get 5g in the area so I have gone with Three,and get faster speeds than the 108mbs max that Virgin were providing. We only watch "terrestrial", Netflix and Amazon so don't need their TV package. We will now be paying £18 a month.

Needless to say Virgin rang up today and told me they could give me a special deal....£45 pcm. I declined their offer.

Where on earth was this ? Did you see the driver?

Wherever it is, the place has bars on windows. Very safe area I reckon

I can’t understand why the driver didn’t park sideways

It was at St Anthony’s hospital in Cheam. Didn’t see the driver, but they didn’t have a disabled sticker, which would have redeemed them slightly.

I think it’s the pharmacy in that part of the hospital, which would explain the bars.

Ok, that makes sense

Judging by the width of those bays (disabled lorry parking??) it’s entirely possible that this driver is an opportunist who parked between two other cars.

If you’re on Twitter, send it to You Park Like A ****

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Was it outside the Ophthalmology department?

Ministerial Politicians that finally declare their allegiance once a clear winner has been established in a what was only a two horse race in the first place. Hardly sticking thier f#c*ing necks out!

People who expect more of politicians other than protecting their self-interest!

Annoys me when people post in the wrong thread.

Gad, the heat, and those damn drums.

Oddly, they seem to have parked within the old old bays (faint white lines visible each side of the car), prior to the disabled markings being done

Obviously that doesn't excuse this joke piece of parking, whether they have a badge or not

People who use the word "utilise" where "use" would do.

Anyway, rant over, I'm off to utilise the toilet.

‘-isms’ or ‘-ists’

Read this morning that Beyoncé has written an ableist lyric and there has been a backlash…... A WHAT!

I am a ‘cantbearseddwithallthis-ist’. Join with me and we can start an ism.

I’ve quite enjoyed a couple of the early Overlap fan chats but the longer they have gone on, the more it’s become just a ****fest for ManU, Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs. Their fans even get big comfy armchairs at the front while the ‘rest’ sit at the back. Not even sure if there is a Palace fan that goes to this is there? Certainly never gets air time if they are there. Guessing the HF were asked and we turned it down?

Re the fans that do get to talk. A couple of them are clearly knowledgeable (but understandably biased) but some of them are just cartoon characters with loud voices.

I think ableism is just as legitimate and important a term as say racism.

I think the issue most certainly is as important but that wasn’t my point.

TBH I can’t say I have ever heard the term before. Shouldn’t it be disableism?

The difference between disablism and ableism
Both terms describe disability discrimination, but the emphasis is different.

Disablism emphasises discrimination against disabled people.

Ableism emphasises discrimination in favour of non-disabled people.

Should I say disablism or ableism?
Different people prefer to use one or other term. Or it might depend on which aspect of discrimination you want to emphasise.

Neither is considered wrong and they can be used interchangeably.

https://www.scope.org.uk/about-us/disablism/

Just don't call it ~~~~ism as Beyoncé and Lizzo no doubt would.

Ableism is hardly a new concept. Things can exist before you hear of them. If it bothers you imagine how people with disabilities feel when there aren't suitable access facilities to a building, for example, or when they aren't taken seriously because of their disability, or are actively mocked.

As a matter of interest . Did it have a handicapped sticker on the front, there is not one on the back.

No sticker/card anywhere.

Did you read my post, maybe it wasn’t clear? I wasn’t moaning about ableism I was moaning that there is a tendency to stick ist and ism behind any old word lately to create a new thing. and ableism just happened to be the latest due to the Beyoncé story of which I know no detail.

If ableism is a widely used term, then I have never heard of it. I am more than familiar with the real life issue which is very real, having been extremely close to it in our lives, having disabled family members. It’s the latter that makes it surprising I don’t know the word if this is in common usage. As another example, ‘metooism’ - WTF.

edit - I thought I would look up metooism assuming it was must be a recent one but it apparently dates back to the 19th century. you live and learn.