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zonin2000 20-09-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny32
Not looking forward to the weeks news reports and debates about the QB controversy in Philly.

I missed it but apparently the Sky Sports crew made a good point last night: if Reid thinks Kolb should start, fine, but why announce it publicly? Why not make the opposition prepare for two different QBs?

In practice it may not work as 'insiders' would always leak who was seeing the most snaps in practice, but still an interesting point.

pauldrulez 20-09-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ardeo
Would still take Colts and Texans over Pats and Jets, maybe Dolphins over the Titans, then Jags played well to beat the Broncos, Bills haven't done much other than hold the Phins to a close game, so would take Jags over Bills.

Overall it's still a better division by 3-1 or 2.5-1.5.

Colts D and Pats D aren't that far apart. Pats have a better Secondary (normally) and stop the run (erm, normally), Colts are able to rush the passer.

The Offense are the same. Manning and Brady. If anything Pats have more Receiving options and can run the ball which the Colts rarely do.
Moss = Wayne
Welker = Clark
Edelman = Collie
Garcon > Tate
Gronk, Hernandez, Faulk, Crumpler, Taylor Price > Gonzalez and Santi.

Pats 4 RB's are probably equal in talent to the Colts 2 RB's when Addai is healthy.

The Colts and Pats are a wash really.

You'll see that when they play again this year, but this time not in the Colts dome where Manning is king.

2009 - 35-34. 4th and freaking 2.
2008 - 18-15. Cassel...
2007 - Pats 24-20. Down 10 with 9 minutes to go, Pats come back to win.
2006 - AFCCG - I can't quite remember the score, but there was nothing in it. Pats were driving for a win as well.

There are differences between the 2 teams as well. Colts play in a dome. Pats play in windy, snowy, rainy Foxboro.

Dolphins could beat the Texans (except I don't think they're playing each other this year). Vontae Davis is capable of slowing Andre Johnson down. If they can stop the runs of Foster, they'd beat them.

Jets would kill the Titans.

Bills aren't that bad on defence and I think they'd give the Jags a close game.

Benzhiyi 20-09-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ardeo
Would still take Colts and Texans over Pats and Jets, maybe Dolphins over the Titans, then Jags played well to beat the Broncos, Bills haven't done much other than hold the Phins to a close game, so would take Jags over Bills.

Overall it's still a better division by 3-1 or 2.5-1.5.

But why are you still ranking us as the third team when we lead the division and just shat all over a team who reached the NFC title game last year? (It was only 14-10 because of a Ricky fumble on our own goal line.)

I'd take the Colts over the Pats, I'd call us and Houston even, I'd have the Jets over the Titans and the Bills and the Jags are much of a muchness.

Still, write us off at your peril.

Oh, and what's that ESPN?

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/892/henne2.jpg

jazman 20-09-2010 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Colts D and Pats D aren't that far apart. Pats have a better Secondary (normally) and stop the run (erm, normally), Colts are able to rush the passer.

The Offense are the same. Manning and Brady. If anything Pats have more Receiving options and can run the ball which the Colts rarely do.
Moss = Wayne
Welker = Clark
Edelman = Collie
Garcon > Tate
Gronk, Hernandez, Faulk, Crumpler, Taylor Price > Gonzalez and Santi.

Pats 4 RB's are probably equal in talent to the Colts 2 RB's when Addai is healthy.

The Colts and Pats are a wash really.

You'll see that when they play again this year, but this time not in the Colts dome where Manning is king.

2009 - 35-34. 4th and freaking 2.
2008 - 18-15. Cassel...
2007 - Pats 24-20. Down 10 with 9 minutes to go, Pats come back to win.
2006 - AFCCG - I can't quite remember the score, but there was nothing in it. Pats were driving for a win as well.

There are differences between the 2 teams as well. Colts play in a dome. Pats play in windy, snowy, rainy Foxboro.

Dolphins could beat the Texans (except I don't think they're playing each other this year). Vontae Davis is capable of slowing Andre Johnson down. If they can stop the runs of Foster, they'd beat them.

Jets would kill the Titans.

Bills aren't that bad on defence and I think they'd give the Jags a close game.

Biggest difference is that the Colts reached the SB last year. The Pats did not. :)

Benzhiyi 20-09-2010 06:05 PM

Favre praises "number 21":

http://bit.ly/bEJ8c2

Another reason to take us seriously. Davis is the real deal.

Swanny32 20-09-2010 06:08 PM

I'm going to have to go with Paul and Ben on this one, I think the AFC East is the toughest division from what we have seen so far. The Jets, Pats and Dolphins can beat anyone on their day whereas I'd say probably only the Colts, maybe the Texans can do such a thing.

Just watching the Colts now actually, I'd hate to be the DC that goes against their no huddle, they made the first drive of the game look so easy.

saxoneagle 20-09-2010 06:12 PM

Dolphins for 2-14? ;)

ardeo 20-09-2010 06:20 PM

Sorry I forgot I was debating with two homers! :rolleyes:

In answer to Paul, we are talking about right now, Colts over the Pats, were you not watching the Jets game on Sunday night? Colts are at the top of the pile, Pats are in the group just below.

In answer to Ben, I still think Jets are the better team, Vikings aren't that great this season, Favre is not hot and they have no receivers. If you want you can swap Phins and Jets, Texans still beat the Phins and Jets beat the Titans. Still the South beats the East.

Anyway based on Fox Sports power rankings, with lowest points total being the best:

AFC East: 4+6+17+32 = 59
AFC South: 5+7+12+23 = 47
NFC East: 8+11+18+20 = 59

ardeo 20-09-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny32
I'm going to have to go with Paul and Ben on this one, I think the AFC East is the toughest division from what we have seen so far. The Jets, Pats and Dolphins can beat anyone on their day whereas I'd say probably only the Colts, maybe the Texans can do such a thing.

Just watching the Colts now actually, I'd hate to be the DC that goes against their no huddle, they made the first drive of the game look so easy.

The whole division has to be strong though, Bills suck, the NFC BEast got it's name from 4 team at .500 or better

saxoneagle 20-09-2010 06:27 PM

I wouldn't say the AFC East is strongest - they have 1 awful team and 3 average teams capable of good performances once in a while.

AFC South has the Colts who would beat all 4 in the East and I would back the Texans to out-perform the East, too or at least go 2-2 if they had to play all 4. The Titans run hot and cold (like the Jets have done the past 2 weeks and the Pats, too) and could easily split an E v S matchup 2-2. And then easily Bills are the worst of the 8.

I'd back the South in head to heads.

LLCOOLSTEVE 20-09-2010 06:34 PM

That Pittsburgh Td from the opening kick off was pretty sweet

pauldrulez 20-09-2010 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ardeo
Sorry I forgot I was debating with two homers! :rolleyes:

In answer to Paul, we are talking about right now, Colts over the Pats, were you not watching the Jets game on Sunday night? Colts are at the top of the pile, Pats are in the group just below.

In answer to this,

Last week, the Colts got raped by the Texans.

The Patriots rolled through Cincinnati who are a pretty damn good team.

There is no outright team this year, so far.

Swanny32 20-09-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
That Pittsburgh Td from the opening kick off was pretty sweet

Yeah it was pretty good, although because it was the Stoolers it sucked!

jazman 20-09-2010 07:28 PM

Enjoyed the Hightower TD for the Cards in their trouncing ... and just loved the Dez Bryant TD just a shame about the result ...

jazman 20-09-2010 07:29 PM

By the way, Rich Eisen has a podcast on iTunes. Haven't listened to it yet but episode one is available now ... :p

pauldrulez 20-09-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jazman
By the way, Rich Eisen has a podcast on iTunes. Haven't listened to it yet but episode one is available now ... :p

Just noticed that on Twatter.

Heading to the iTunes store now.

zonin2000 20-09-2010 09:45 PM

I can see why people like Gary Imlach:

"Hello, it's five past one, which in television scheduling terms broadly means poker, pornography or the shopping channel, so we salute you for resisting your baser urges - or most of them at least - and opting for the NFL's wholesome family blend of skill, strategy and ruthless violence."

pauldrulez 20-09-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by zonin2000
I can see why people like Gary Imlach:

"Hello, it's five past one, which in television scheduling terms broadly means poker, pornography or the shopping channel, so we salute you for resisting your baser urges - or most of them at least - and opting for the NFL's wholesome family blend of skill, strategy and ruthless violence."

:D

pauldrulez 20-09-2010 10:36 PM

http://cachemediasrv.patriots.com/Im...0919058287.jpg

I still cannot believe this catch.

Freak.

Benzhiyi 20-09-2010 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ardeo
Anyway based on Fox Sports power rankings...

Those were done last week:

"But [Miami] likely will have to score more than 15 points on the road this week to beat Minnesota."


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