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LuieJack 08-12-2021 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 16139207)
That’s a little harsh on Stokes…..

Sadly i think Stokes best days are now behind him. Yes he is still capable of producing the odd outstanding performance, but consistent performance's is probably now history.
There is a massive rebuilding process ahead for England, but the big question will be is the talent there in numbers for the overhaul? i am not sure.

west country boy 08-12-2021 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by spike (Post 16139244)
To illustrate this to the Aus contingent, this is more ignorant than it would be to call Steve Smith "the Irishman", with a side order of "all brown people look the same".

Is it OK to call Smith a “rubber-faced blubbing goon”?

PauLo 08-12-2021 10:32 AM

Ashes 2021
 
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Originally Posted by bunghole (Post 16138802)
Credit to the Pakistani lad though, done a sterling job for the soap dodgers while all around him failed.

Mods gonna do anything about this blatant racism?

0.bj 08-12-2021 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16139206)
This.

Unbelievable to leave both Broad & Jimmy out. How can you tactically defend that team.

Perhaps us announcing the team so early was a tactical manoeuvre after all.

You certainly copied it, when you were better off playing to your strengths, rather than imitating our 11.

Let’s not forget Joe’s other piece of captaincy genius that is negatively impacting this tour: bowling Jofra Archer into an early grave.

Fully expecting Mark Wood to break down and leave us with two front-line seamers for four days of toil and a record-breaking defeat.

Timbo 08-12-2021 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by desperado (Post 16139280)
Rory Burns has proven time and again he doesn't have the technique to be a Test match batsman (or batter as we are supposed to call them now) and is horrible to watch twitching and waving his bat about

I was hoping to see little of him in this series so getting out first ball at least he's off to a good start

There are few options for England selectors given the obsession with Mickey Mouse cricket

I think they persist with Burns because he is perceived as a potential future England captain

Olympian2 08-12-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 16139376)
I think they persist with Burns because he is perceived as a potential future England captain

And because he's got a Test average of 32 (3 x100, 11 x 50) although it's slightly higher against Australia. And, arguably, because there aren't any better candidates as opener.

cockneyrebel 08-12-2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by PauLo (Post 16139323)
Mods gonna do anything about this blatant racism?

I reported it but no edit so far.

Worksop Palace 08-12-2021 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 16139376)
I think they persist with Burns because he is perceived as a potential future England captain

Fvck me. :eek:

Ben H 08-12-2021 12:32 PM

Michael Vaughan in the Telegraph today slagging off the bowling unit before they've even bowled a ball.

desperado 08-12-2021 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 16139376)
I think they persist with Burns because he is perceived as a potential future England captain

If they make him captain in the future he should field at mid-on or mid-off to communicate regularly with the bowler. This would get him out of the slip/gully cordon where he regularly drops routine catches

He would follow Mike Brearley in captaining England and never looking like a Test match batsman

Timbo 08-12-2021 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16139383)
And because he's got a Test average of 32 (3 x100, 11 x 50) although it's slightly higher against Australia. And, arguably, because there aren't any better candidates as opener.

Worrying if there are no alternative opening batsmen, but in terms of Rory he does get out early, often. Whilst 32 is hardly a good test average anyway, as an opener he is supposed to be able to hang around for a while, take the shine off the ball and reduce the pressure on the middle order.

Olympian2 08-12-2021 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 16139507)
Worrying if there are no alternative opening batsmen, but in terms of Rory he does get out early, often. Whilst 32 is hardly a good test average anyway, as an opener he is supposed to be able to hang around for a while, take the shine off the ball and reduce the pressure on the middle order.

It's all very good slating Burns but who would you have open instead?

Worksop Palace 08-12-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16139518)
It's all very good slating Burns but who would you have open instead?

Me mam

Olympian2 08-12-2021 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 16139579)
Me mam

:D

Tomo 08-12-2021 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fatboy (Post 16139157)
Have they been told they are not playing 20/20 anymore?

Thing is, a lot of it wasn't to do with playing rash 20/20 shots.
There was some loose techniques, good balls, and a team who've been utterly unprepared due to Covid and the weather.

But the decision to bat will haunt Root for some time. We were never going to out bat Australia. We were only putting ourselves under pressure by batting first.

Jordan's Jacket 08-12-2021 02:51 PM

I'd get Crawley in tbh. He may play the occasional rash shot but at least he is aggressive in the way he plays

art malice 08-12-2021 03:09 PM

Surprised one of England’s enormous army of workload management officers or coin toss data specialists weren’t wheeled out to face the media. Probably banned by their individual line managers.

Tomo 08-12-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16139303)
It swung in late and he still couldn't reach it! :D

Harmison aside, most opening balls of a Test Match/Series are fairly innocuous looseners outside off.

Starc did let rip, which surprised Burns no end, and lead to a procession of dominoes!

Now its our turn.

Yep.

It's one of those unfortunately which you don't want first ball up. And then the late swing did the damage.

RazorsEdge 08-12-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 16139259)
The Burns wicket was a real horror.

Clip it off the legs for four and we’re playing a different game.

I used to umpire Burns and Roy when they were kids and were brilliant players and Burns was really good playing off his leg etc and I can only say it was almost an unplayable ball, and would back him to come back stronger in the next innings (I know misplaced loyalty here from me )

Worksop Palace 08-12-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorsEdge (Post 16139719)
I used to umpire Burns and Roy when they were kids and were brilliant players and Burns was really good playing off his leg etc and I can only say it was almost an unplayable ball, and would back him to come back stronger in the next innings (I know misplaced loyalty here from me )

I assume this is a joke Raz?


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