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Edenbridge Eagle In Exile 19-01-2009 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sLlll
What's that Philafaggot :D. You did us a favour so we wouldn't be crying our eyes out today. Arizona did a great job on you. :lux:

:p:vader::p

:S:

sLlll 19-01-2009 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Edenbridge Eagle In Exile
Don't worry mate, just remember at least you are not a glory hunting Cowgirl or Cow PATS fan! :p

Still hurts that the Pats did you in the SB and that the Cowboys will always be the Daddy of the NFC East :p.

sLlll 19-01-2009 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Edenbridge Eagle In Exile
:S:

Yes mate. Goodnight to you and your team :D:D!

sLlll 19-01-2009 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Edenbridge Eagle In Exile

And :clown:town Pathetic are bottom of the league!!!;)

Can't complain there :p.

Strathclyde Eagle 19-01-2009 01:42 AM

Anyone want to back Flacco to come back from 13 points down against this defence? He's had quite a run but this might be a step too far.

sLlll 19-01-2009 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Anyone want to back Flacco to come back from 13 points down against this defence? He's had quite a run but this might be a step too far.

No, and The Pitts are going to bore us to a SB win :sob:.

jlmatthews 19-01-2009 02:32 AM

Holy Shit!

That block was wicked!

That would be a good example for when people tell me football players are sissies compared to rugby players because they wear helmets and pads. Damn.

jj62255 19-01-2009 02:39 AM

Limas Sweed just redeemed himself with that block, ouch :eek:

Scrappy half so far, some wrong decisions gone both ways, silly play the last one Steelers made, just go for it and if its incomplete take the fieldgoal. I have seen a couple of cheapshots by the Ravens so far after the play was dead, but guess I'm a bit biased looking for them.

jlmatthews 19-01-2009 04:22 AM

I think we're in for a blow out Feb 1

jj62255 19-01-2009 04:38 AM

Ryan Clarke you utter twat :veryangry :veryangry :veryangry

That hit took away from an enjoyable win, no excuse for that, that was simply a despicable action. Were'nt he the one that hit Welker as well?

But looking at the game, it really were'nt the blockbuster I had expected, it rarely is when it's hyped that much though, Flacco showed he really was a rookie after all, and Polamalu showed who the best safety really is.

I really don't want to belittle the Ravens after this though, as I had expected to do and as much as I dislike some of their players. I had really expected them to go overboard with some of the hits, but instead my own team did that at the end, for shame.

Still, I'm not gonna let that idiot (Clarke) take away what was a hard fought victory, the running game never got going on either side, so it really was down to the quarterbacks to get it done, and the experience of Ben shined through.

Anyway, we all know what the story is gonna be now for the SB with Whisenhunt's Steelers connection, it's gonna be an interesting one though, two very very different team with a total different view on how football is played. But wow, Cardinals in the Superbowl, thats something to tell your grandchildren :p

Hedgehog 19-01-2009 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jlmatthews
Holy Shit!

That block was wicked!

That would be a good example for when people tell me football players are sissies compared to rugby players because they wear helmets and pads. Damn.

Agree. two forces going in opposite directions meeting head on!

Hedgehog 19-01-2009 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jlmatthews
I think we're in for a blow out Feb 1

To think the Cardinals were the shittiest team in the league the year before last.

Gives hope for the Raiders I guess! :)

jj62255 19-01-2009 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog
To think the Cardinals were the shittiest team in the league the year before last.

Gives hope for the Raiders I guess! :)

i'm not sure the Raiders have any hope as long as 'undead Al' is in charge :o

Hedgehog 19-01-2009 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jj62255
i'm not sure the Raiders have any hope as long as 'undead Al' is in charge :o

Death list 2009 innit.

pauldrulez 19-01-2009 10:47 AM

I didn't see the hit as I was having a pee :o

If its as bad as your saying then the guy is a complete ****. He nearly killed Welker last time.

Chiefs are the big outsider for me.

Relatively easy division. Wouldn't shock me to see them in the playoffs. And once you are there, as the Cardinals have demonstrated, who knows what is going to happen.

pauldrulez 19-01-2009 10:57 AM





I like watching big hits, the Welker one was legal. But the guy is a raving psycho.

GO CARDS

Benzhiyi 19-01-2009 11:19 AM

It's Clark. And the hit was perfectly legal. AND forced a turnover which basically cemented victory. Not sure how you can complain about that.

Paul, given that you repeatedly remind us how great your predictions are, here's the big question:

Which team is Cassel going to be MVP for in the Super Bowl?

pauldrulez 19-01-2009 11:25 AM

Cardinals when Warner dies of old age.

Leinart thinks he is in with a chance but he is left-handed and Fitz cries about it.

So Leinart ends up back-up, Cassel comes in and wins MVP by throwing a single TD to Fitz, Boldin, Breaston, Doucet, Urban, Pope, Hightower and James. He also rushes for 17000 yards and 58 TDs in that time.

Happy?

pauldrulez 19-01-2009 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Gholston will bust like a Cowboy in a playoff game.

On 5/9 :hi:

2 for the price of one except they didn't get there.

Saying that, i'd give them our first for him.

I'm attempting to find me predicting one of the 32 teams to win the Superbowl. I know I picked the Pats and Redskins early in the season.

After about 8 games I said I like watching the Cards and think they could do damage if they get to the play-offs.

God knows if I ever picked the Ravens or Steelers.

I might have said the Steelers get the bye.

FWIW, it does look like he hit with his helmet first, its a dangerous hit, but at first look it was legal. After a few replays, I wasn't so sure.

Benzhiyi 19-01-2009 11:47 AM

I like this:

http://www.globesports.com/servlet/s...sFootball/home

Very low risk signing with a lot of upside. 260 lbs yet runs a 4.55. Mmmm-hmmm.

I know it's the CFL, but Parcells knows his linebackers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXhvg2HhTo0

AddiscombeEagle 19-01-2009 12:06 PM

Finally woken up after spending all night watch both games.

What a game the Philli Cards game was, brilliant loved every minute of it and I thought the Cards were gone when Philli came back.

As for the Ravens Steelers, they deserved it on the night, Flacco finally crumbled against a top defense, but if you look at it from the Ravens point of view, I thought that was a heroic effort last night, that was one bruised and battered team and they gave that one hell of an effort. Don't think anyone can be disappointed with that team after that season.

I never thought we would win throughout the game until it went 14-16 and we returned their punt to our 40 and I thought we had it then, but we return from the ad break and we are on our 11 because some Special Teamer (didn't catch his name) had given up a stupid penalty. Then all the pressure was back on Flacco and he got picked, game over.

Tell you something mind, apart from some of the Ravens obviously Troy Polamalu is my favourite player in the NFL, what a game he had last night. Still hope the Cards turn them over in the final.

My opinion for what its worth is Clarks hit at the end was legal, it was just very sickening the end result.

Benzhiyi 19-01-2009 12:21 PM

Paul, how comes you quoted your Gholston prediction but not, say, your Ravens-Steelers one?

Strathclyde Eagle 19-01-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzhiyi
I like this:

http://www.globesports.com/servlet/s...sFootball/home

Very low risk signing with a lot of upside. 260 lbs yet runs a 4.55. Mmmm-hmmm.

I know it's the CFL, but Parcells knows his linebackers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXhvg2HhTo0

17 teams interested in him according to NFL.com. Seems like a good little coup at this time of year.

jazman 19-01-2009 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sLlll
Good evening Jazman. Who do you want to win?

I was Cards-Ravens Superbowl all the way but one outta two ain't bad. I want the Cards to win it.

Can't comment too much on what I have not see (didn't know the Ravens-Steelers result until I was collared by my Card supporting colleague first thing :) ). But if the first match is anything to go by, then I'll enjoy the highlights tonight.

I thought the Eagles looked dead and buried at one point last and fair play to them for rallying round and dealing with the Cards offence. Once again, the Cards first half performance, set up the win for them.

That 4th down for the Eagles in the last quarter that pretty much sealed the game for the Cards, I was expecting a flag on that play ... maybe harshly as the D player looked like he slipped but he clearly in a manner that interfered with the Eagles player. I don't know if this has been mentioned on here already as I have not read that far back, or whether I am being too harsh here either ...

jazman 19-01-2009 01:19 PM

And who was the Eagles player that stupidly hit Warner really late on? So late that the players were almost on the team bus ... ;) :D

Benzhiyi 19-01-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
17 teams interested in him according to NFL.com. Seems like a good little coup at this time of year.

Apparently it was us vs Indy when it came down to it. Which is great to hear because Polian is a superb judge of potential.

Word is that he isn't just a very good CFL player - he absolutely dominated the league for the last two years. Sounds very promising. And if it doesn't work out it's cost us peanuts in NFL terms.

Good work, trifecta! No stone unturned...

Strathclyde Eagle 19-01-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jazman
That 4th down for the Eagles in the last quarter that pretty much sealed the game for the Cards, I was expecting a flag on that play ... maybe harshly as the D player looked like he slipped but he clearly in a manner that interfered with the Eagles player. I don't know if this has been mentioned on here already as I have not read that far back, or whether I am being too harsh here either ...

Could have gone either way. It did effectively end the game - glad I wasn't the official with the call to make!
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Originally Posted by jazman
And who was the Eagles player that stupidly hit Warner really late on? So late that the players were almost on the team bus ... ;) :D

Demps. One of the most stupid penalties I've ever seen.

jazman 19-01-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Could have gone either way. It did effectively end the game - glad I wasn't the official with the call to make!

Demps. One of the most stupid penalties I've ever seen.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one with those thoughts then ... my learning is almost complete :p

I've seen those kind of pens called before this season so I guess the Eagles can count themselves unlucky. Maybe not so with their first half performance though.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing with that very late hit. Was there history between them or anything as I cannot recall any aggro in the game before that ...

ardeo 19-01-2009 02:03 PM

Think Demps was just really frustrated.

Would have liked to have seen a running play on 3rd and 10, we had plenty of time on the clock, and could have made the 4th down more manageable. But for a couple of poor throws in the first half we could of been a lot closer at the break. Still we were outplayed fot 2/3 of the game, come on Cardinals for the superbowl

Strathclyde Eagle 19-01-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jazman
I couldn't believe what I was seeing with that very late hit. Was there history between them or anything as I cannot recall any aggro in the game before that ...

The only things I could think of were 1) Halling's point about Demps being picked on for Fitzgerald's long TD, or 2) Warner's history of concussions, or the possibility that some think he's soft (not a popularly held opinion I'd say). More than anything, it was daft. Not quite Charles Martin (as I think Halling said) but still really stupid.

And for anyone who isn't aware of the history Martin was nasty/vindicative as opposed to stupid. I don't know if any pictures exist on the internet but the guy had a shortlist of numbers on his towel to work through, but he was ejected after injuring number one on his list (Jim McMahon).

pauldrulez 19-01-2009 05:29 PM

Demps was a douche for doing it. But it did look funny as hell.

Ben, if I post every incorrect prediction, there would be another 1500 posts on this thread :D ;)

pauldrulez 19-01-2009 10:37 PM

My thoughts on the players I know are next to them. Make of them what you will :p

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The National Football League has announced the names of 46 players who have been granted special eligibility for the 2009 NFL Draft.

Each of the 46 players has met the league's three-year eligibility rule and each has submitted a written application in which he renounced his remaining college football eligibility.

The players declared eligible are:

Underclassmen declared
Name Position College
Asher Allen DB Georgia
Kenny Britt WR Rutgers
Eben Britton OT Arizona
Donald Brown DB Connecticut
Everette Brown DE Florida St. Likely first rounder.
Carson Butler TE Michigan
Jairus Byrd DB Oregon
James Casey TE Rice
Jeremy Childs WR Boise St.
Glen Coffee RB Alabama
Emanuel Cook DB South Carolina
Jared Cook TE South Carolina
Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech *****TOP 5 PICK*****
Andrew Davie TE Arkansas
[b]Davis, Nate QB Ball St.[b] Good QB but height may be an issue
Vontae Davis DB Illinois Not sure where he will go, but I love this guy.
Maurice Evans DE Penn State
Josh Freeman QB Kansas St. Not as highly rated as others, but possible 4th rounder. Development needed
Mike Goodson RB Texas A&M
Shonn Greene RB Iowa
Brian Hartline WR Ohio St.
Percy Harvin WR Florida Likely first rounder, maybe 2nd but high-rated
Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland Possible first rounder but more likely 2nd, good hands
P.J. Hill RB Wisconsin
Greg Isdaner G West Virginia
Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri Like the other Receivers bar Crabtree, likely first rounder, may fall.
Sen'Derrick Marks DT Auburn
Aaron Maybin DE Penn State Possible Top 15 pick, may fall
LeSean McCoy RB Penn State
Andrew Means WR Indiana
D.J. Moore DB Vanderbilt If its who i'm thinking of, Top 15 pick
Knowshon Moreno RB Georgia Likely Top 15 pick
Cameron Morrah TE California
Captain Munnerlyn DB South Carolina
Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
Kevin Ogletree WR Virginia
Jerraud Powers DB Auburn
Richard Quinn TE North Carolina
Mark Sanchez QB USC Good QB, likely to go in first round
Andre Smith OT Alabama ***** Possible Number 1 pick *****
Sean Smith DB Utah
Matt Stafford QB Georgia ***** Possible Number 1 pick *****
Donald Washington DB Ohio St.
Chris Wells RB Ohio St. Not entirely sure where he is to be drafted, but I like the look of him and personally think he is the star of the RB class.
Brandon Williams DE Texas Tech
Those in Bold I have heard of and actually have opinions on.

jazman 19-01-2009 10:53 PM

my god paul you have some time on your hands!

pauldrulez 19-01-2009 11:12 PM

It was copied and pasted.

I added my comments and it took about 10 minutes.

I enjoy watching, learning and looking at stats.

Especially rookies. I could so easily insert a sexual innuendo about rookies, but i'll leave it to saxon when he returns to the thread...

;)

sLlll 19-01-2009 11:58 PM

Philadelphia are rubbish :D

sLlll 20-01-2009 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
My thoughts on the players I know are next to them. Make of them what you will :p



Those in Bold I have heard of and actually have opinions on.

Bruv, you need to go live in the States. I was once in a sports bar that ran 8 live games at the same time - I was there on week 17 :p :p. I had one sore neck.

saxoneagle 20-01-2009 12:02 AM

Moreno > Wells IMO

pauldrulez 20-01-2009 12:17 AM

I think its splitting hairs on Moreno and Wells.

A lot of the experts have split decisions on them both.

I see Wells going to a team like the Broncos who despite using 7 backs, really dont have any quality and McDaniels likes using his backs. The Niners at 10 or the Texans at 14/15? would be other possibilities for him.

Whereas I think Moreno may fall to a team like the Jets or the Lions 2nd pick at 20.

pauldrulez 20-01-2009 12:18 AM

Just a thought, but when fans, teams and reporters choose to complain about Running up the Score.

They should watch the Cards game to see what happens when you get complacent.

saxoneagle 20-01-2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
I think its splitting hairs on Moreno and Wells.

A lot of the experts have split decisions on them both.

So? I don't fence sit. Moreno > Wells IMO

saxoneagle 20-01-2009 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Just a thought, but when fans, teams and reporters choose to complain about Running up the Score.

They should watch the Cards game to see what happens when you get complacent.

WTF? The Eagles played terribly and even McNabb admitted they knew they were still in it as they knew they were playing so badly.

Also, you could see the Cards tightening up in their play and the play-calling changed. It wasn't about trying to run up the score or otherwise. It was a high pressure situation with inexperienced players.

elliott 20-01-2009 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Benzhiyi
Apparently it was us vs Indy when it came down to it. Which is great to hear because Polian is a superb judge of potential.

Word is that he isn't just a very good CFL player - he absolutely dominated the league for the last two years. Sounds very promising. And if it doesn't work out it's cost us peanuts in NFL terms.

Good work, trifecta! No stone unturned...

He's mental if it's the person I'm thinking of.

Plays for BC.

Literally, a beast. Racks up sooooooo many sacks.

Strathclyde Eagle 20-01-2009 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by saxoneagle
Moreno > Wells IMO

Fully agree. Moreno's much better than Wells, and I'd put Harvin over Wells as well. I don't think Wells will do much in the NFL. Moreno could be as good as Peterson (IMHO) and Harvin could be a leaner/faster version of Westbrook.

My personal favourite Moreno clip (is available in better quality if you're on YouTube itself):

elliott 20-01-2009 01:06 AM

Just rewatched the "Snow Plow" game from 1982. God, I forgot how much that irritates me.


Once a cheat, always a bloody cheat.

Shula had it right all along in his opinion.

jazman 20-01-2009 09:50 AM

Watched the highlights of the Championship games last night and would say that the Cards-Eagles game was the better of the two. The Steelers-Ravens just didn't live up to the hype at all (or was that because my eyelids were heavy? :) ) ... in saying that, what a sickening hit that was in the Steelers game. That pretty much killed the last 5 minutes of the game or so that was left. You could hear a pin drop and fair play to the Steelers fans to that ... Anyone heard any news on the two players as I haven't had time to check?

I'm on the Cards bandwagon for the Superbowl :p The Steelers have started to bore me in the last few games ...

AddiscombeEagle 20-01-2009 09:53 AM

Willis Mcgahee got released from hospital yesterday which is good news.

Benzhiyi 20-01-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by sLlll
Bruv, you need to go live in the States. I was once in a sports bar that ran 8 live games at the same time - I was there on week 17 :p :p. I had one sore neck.

Was it ESPN Zone?

I frickin' love those places.

Nookie and I watched the 2007 season opener (Colts vs Saints, including a hot pre-game performance from the unspeakably lovely Kelly Clarkson) at one in Washington. It were smashing. :lux:

Benzhiyi 20-01-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
I see Wells going to a team like the Broncos who despite using 7 backs, really dont have any quality and McDaniels likes using his backs.

Torain is quality and Hillis is good enough to fit many different parts of a gameplan. I'm sure McDaniels will look at lots of different ways to incorporate him.

Benzhiyi 20-01-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by elliott
He's mental if it's the person I'm thinking of.

Plays for BC.

Literally, a beast. Racks up sooooooo many sacks.

That's the bunny. :lux:

nookiebear 20-01-2009 11:07 AM

Morning all :)

Had to avoid this thread until I could watch the Steelers/Ravens game last night

That was some hard-hitting football, brutal stuff. One game too far for Flacco but he is going to be a quality QB

Delighted for the Cards, glad to see the Eagles are still the bridesmaid (even though that makes the Redskins the ugly sister :D ).

Assume most people think the Steelers will walk it but I'm not so sure

Benzhiyi 20-01-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Just a thought, but when fans, teams and reporters choose to complain about Running up the Score.

They should watch the Cards game to see what happens when you get complacent.

1. It was a play-off game, not a regular season one, so running up the score doesn't even come into it. It's perfectly acceptable to cement victory in a knockout scenario - see Carolina vs Arizona.

2. The Cards didn't get complacent, they got nervous, and their playcalling and execution was a little reserved as a result. There's no way their third quarter collapse came about because they didn't want to run up the score.

3. The Eagles came out after the break fully pumped up and played a tremendous third quarter, capitalising on the Cards' tentative play on both sides of the ball.

Strathclyde Eagle 20-01-2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzhiyi
Was it ESPN Zone?

I frickin' love those places.

Nookie and I watched the 2007 season opener (Colts vs Saints, including a hot pre-game performance from the unspeakably lovely Kelly Clarkson) at one in Washington. It were smashing. :lux:

As do I. :lux:

Went to the one in Atlanta in 2004 and saw slack-jawed as a group of guys started aranging their fantasy football draft around us. They apologised if they were disturbing us and I was still too awe-struck to say how envious I was that they didn't have a draft that takes place over three weeks and six different time zones.

(Six weeks to Fantasy Baseball draft time. :lux:)

jj62255 20-01-2009 01:07 PM

After watching that hit a couple of times (sober this time) I was perhaps a bit quick to judge Clark. Sure it's a devastating hit, but not as bad as I first thought. He actually tries to lead with his shoulder, but Mcgahee lowered his helmet right before impact, which makes it pretty hard to predict where he's gonna hit him. I'm not even sure it's illegal since he was already running with the ball, as opposed to a receiver with his eyes on the ball.

It really did kill off the game for the last five minutes, so hardly the cliffhanger like the two previous games they played.

jazman 20-01-2009 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzhiyi
1. It was a play-off game, not a regular season one, so running up the score doesn't even come into it. It's perfectly acceptable to cement victory in a knockout scenario - see Carolina vs Arizona.

2. The Cards didn't get complacent, they got nervous, and their playcalling and execution was a little reserved as a result. There's no way their third quarter collapse came about because they didn't want to run up the score.

3. The Eagles came out after the break fully pumped up and played a tremendous third quarter, capitalising on the Cards' tentative play on both sides of the ball.

Completely agree, great post Ben :p

ardeo 20-01-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jazman
Completely agree, great post Ben :p

I concur, offensively they didn't want to risk any turnovers and defensively they wanted to try and avoid any big plays. And Eagles were much better.

Unfortunately there was no way we would get a TD on a 4th consecutive drive.

jazman 20-01-2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jj62255
After watching that hit a couple of times (sober this time) I was perhaps a bit quick to judge Clark. Sure it's a devastating hit, but not as bad as I first thought. He actually tries to lead with his shoulder, but Mcgahee lowered his helmet right before impact, which makes it pretty hard to predict where he's gonna hit him. I'm not even sure it's illegal since he was already running with the ball, as opposed to a receiver with his eyes on the ball.

It really did kill off the game for the last five minutes, so hardly the cliffhanger like the two previous games they played.

I've read this morning when McGehey was asked what happened, he replied 'I didn't see him' ... !!!

Strathclyde Eagle 20-01-2009 01:38 PM

Must admit I'm curious to know what a player's vision is like when they're wearing a helmet. My guess is their peripheral vision must be slightly affected to the left, right and up to a degree.

jj62255 20-01-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jazman
I've read this morning when McGehey was asked what happened, he replied 'I didn't see him' ... !!!

Head on a swivel and all that :)

saxoneagle 20-01-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzhiyi
1. It was a play-off game, not a regular season one, so running up the score doesn't even come into it. It's perfectly acceptable to cement victory in a knockout scenario - see Carolina vs Arizona.

2. The Cards didn't get complacent, they got nervous, and their playcalling and execution was a little reserved as a result. There's no way their third quarter collapse came about because they didn't want to run up the score.

3. The Eagles came out after the break fully pumped up and played a tremendous third quarter, capitalising on the Cards' tentative play on both sides of the ball.

I said points 2 and 3 already ;)

AddiscombeEagle 20-01-2009 02:37 PM

Has anyone else got the email regarding buying tickets for Wembley?

Mine has arrived but it doesn’t have a pin code in the space where it is meant to be, which you need to purchase the tickets.

Anyone else got the email and are able to let me know if they have the same thing or not?

saxoneagle 20-01-2009 02:54 PM

I have a pin code on mine but unfortunately I won't be able to use it :(

nookiebear 20-01-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AddiscombeEagle
Has anyone else got the email regarding buying tickets for Wembley?

Mine has arrived but it doesn’t have a pin code in the space where it is meant to be, which you need to purchase the tickets.

Anyone else got the email and are able to let me know if they have the same thing or not?

I'm a bit confused. I'm registered with NFL UK, so does that mean it doesn't matter that I didn't do that ROI thingy on their website?

Does that mean I'll get a pin for Thursday or will I have to wait until Monday for tickets?

If so, Ben, we might need a plan b - did you register?

Benzhiyi 20-01-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nookiebear
If so, Ben, we might need a plan b - did you register?

Nope... :afro:

saxoneagle 20-01-2009 03:30 PM

Do you want my password? :D

(For $50 ;))

Strathclyde Eagle 20-01-2009 03:42 PM

Charging us to watch your team? ;)

saxoneagle 20-01-2009 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Charging us to watch your team? ;)


It's your privilege ;)

Strathclyde Eagle 20-01-2009 03:59 PM

Ben & Elliott, any objections if I find that funny?

(Too late. :D)

elliott 20-01-2009 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Must admit I'm curious to know what a player's vision is like when they're wearing a helmet. My guess is their peripheral vision must be slightly affected to the left, right and up to a degree.

head on a swivel.

especially when there's cheap shot merchants like me around...:o :angel: :love:

elliott 20-01-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Just a thought, but when fans, teams and reporters choose to complain about Running up the Score.

They should watch the Cards game to see what happens when you get complacent.

In my mind, to run up the score must include one of the following:


Kicking a nobbish onside kick.

Going for it on 4th down.

Calling timeout to stop the clock.

Going for 2pts.

Keeping on your starters when its clearly not necessary.

zonin2000 20-01-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AddiscombeEagle
Has anyone else got the email regarding buying tickets for Wembley?

Mine has arrived but it doesn’t have a pin code in the space where it is meant to be, which you need to purchase the tickets.

Anyone else got the email and are able to let me know if they have the same thing or not?

I had the same, but then 50 minutes later I received an identical email, except this time it had a PIN code.

Also, I got confirmation that I have Super Bash tickets for the O2 on Superbowl Sunday. :lux:

BLUE BOY 20-01-2009 05:48 PM

Got my email and pin......roll on Thursday for the rush to buy tickets!

pauldrulez 20-01-2009 06:12 PM

I have a few posts to catch up with here.

I'll start with zonin. I'm also off to the Super Bash :lux: I shall sleep at Victoria until morning afterwards or just stay up all night and skip college.

Also got my pin for tickets.

AddiscombeEagle 20-01-2009 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zonin2000
I had the same, but then 50 minutes later I received an identical email, except this time it had a PIN code.

Also, I got confirmation that I have Super Bash tickets for the O2 on Superbowl Sunday. :lux:

Same as you, I got a second email half hour later with a pin code.

I didn’t get an email about superbash tickets, so congratulations. Should be a good night.

pauldrulez 20-01-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliott
Keeping your starters in

I have not mentioned the Pats for about a week and intend not to, but as Brady said: "Why should I be allowed time off and expect the others to play?"

We had 8 OLineman. We cant allow all 5 starters to rest.

This year in games we took Cassel out, brought in Receivers 4-6, etc etc.

Of course, we can rest Brady. But last year, Cassel was sent out and threw an INT. It was said that "we aren't sending you out there to screw it up".

zonin2000 20-01-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BLUE BOY
Got my email and pin......roll on Thursday for the rush to buy tickets!

Will any be left on general sale?

I'm assuming that as long as I'm dialling from 0959, I should get a couple of tickets by 1020.

pauldrulez 20-01-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by saxoneagle
So? I don't fence sit. Moreno > Wells IMO

I didn't fence sit.

Like Rivers and Mayo last year.

They were rated close, I preferred Rivers. Rivers went at 9, Mayo went at 10.

Mayo was undisputed Rookie of the Year. The only guy who voted for Rivers said he was doing a story on Philip Rivers at the time and got confused when he cast his vote.

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Chris Wells RB Ohio St. Not entirely sure where he is to be drafted, but I like the look of him and personally think he is the star of the RB class.

Er, I'd like to see where the fence sitting is.

I think Wells is better.

pauldrulez 20-01-2009 06:20 PM

zonin,

I think they are releasing 40000 tickets for this first sale. (75% sure on that)

And they are then releasing the rest either in the General Sale or later on in the year, again, don't quote me on that.

saxoneagle 20-01-2009 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldrulez
I didn't fence sit.

Like Rivers and Mayo last year.

They were rated close, I preferred Rivers. Rivers went at 9, Mayo went at 10.

Mayo was undisputed Rookie of the Year. The only guy who voted for Rivers said he was doing a story on Philip Rivers at the time and got confused when he cast his vote.


Er, I'd like to see where the fence sitting is.

I think Wells is better.

OK, I never said you were fence sitting, I was referring to your comment about all the analysts who aren't sure.

And also, congrats on Rivers and Mayo - aren't you a genius for being able to read other people's online drafts.

I note you also fail to mention that you spent around a year masturbating over how great Gholston was...

pauldrulez 20-01-2009 06:36 PM

And still do.

His future was the main part.

He was supposed to be a developmental pick as he adjusted from DE to OLB and will be great IMHO.

And right now, if I had the choice. I would have taken Gholston over Mayo.

If i'm wrong in 2 years. I'll admit how majorly wrong I was.

jazman 20-01-2009 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AddiscombeEagle
Has anyone else got the email regarding buying tickets for Wembley?

Mine has arrived but it doesnt have a pin code in the space where it is meant to be, which you need to purchase the tickets.

Anyone else got the email and are able to let me know if they have the same thing or not?

i got an email about buying club wembley tickets last week i think but no pin

sLlll 20-01-2009 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benzhiyi
Was it ESPN Zone?

I frickin' love those places.

Nookie and I watched the 2007 season opener (Colts vs Saints, including a hot pre-game performance from the unspeakably lovely Kelly Clarkson) at one in Washington. It were smashing. :lux:

It was an independent bar in Maine. Bosox country. They get a sore taste in their mouths when they see me with my Yankees gear on ;).

sLlll 20-01-2009 11:36 PM

"If you did not sign up to the Registry of Interest but wish to purchase a ticket for the game, you will be able to do so from Monday January 26th by going to www.ticketmaster.co.uk"

I'll be disappointed if I miss out. Told my boy ages ago that I'd try my hardest to get him to a NFL match. I should have registered ages ago. Some things you put off............. then you get pissed off :sob:

Strathclyde Eagle 21-01-2009 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elliott
Kicking a nobbish onside kick.

Going for it on 4th down.

Calling timeout to stop the clock.

Going for 2pts.

Keeping on your starters when its clearly not necessary.

BTW, why has no-one mentioned the onside kick the Cardinals tried on Sunday? Class idea, nearly worked. Little risk in kicking it where they did either.

Benzhiyi 21-01-2009 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
BTW, why has no-one mentioned the onside kick the Cardinals tried on Sunday? Class idea, nearly worked. Little risk in kicking it where they did either.

Aye, very ballsy. I'd argue that it did work but that the officials made an awful call...

nookiebear 21-01-2009 10:46 AM

ESPN Zone's mini burgers rocketh :)

Benzhiyi 21-01-2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sLlll
It was an independent bar in Maine. Bosox country. They get a sore taste in their mouths when they see me with my Yankees gear on ;).

And so they should. Booooooooooooooooooooo! :D

jazman 21-01-2009 01:23 PM

Panic over. I received the email yesterday afternoon and hadn't checked when I post last night. So I have my pin and will be attempting to get tickets tomorrow :p

Latvian Eagle 21-01-2009 01:56 PM

Any kind soul want to sort me out a ticket?! ;) Please?

jazman 21-01-2009 02:03 PM

I will be booking the max of six which will be taken at the moment but I am certain one of the others will drop out between now and the game...

Strathclyde Eagle 21-01-2009 02:16 PM

Weekly update from Will Leitch. Can't help but think of when we were F.A. Cup Finalists:
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"The Arizona Cardinals ... are in the Super Bowl." It'll never sound right. That's OK. It shouldn't sound right. It should sound amazing and new and absurd and wonderful and all of it. It should sound as startling as it was to watch it happen. And, somehow, it's true. I will not question it. I will not worry about it. I'll just drink it in, and marvel that the world is a strange place. And I will dodge the meteor. The Arizona Cardinals ... are in the Super Bowl.
http://deadspin.com/5135338/the-buzz...the-super-bowl

pauldrulez 21-01-2009 06:15 PM

I have lots of news from varying websites to post.

In advance and not to offend, i'll give my Apologies for having any opinions on the news/pics. :rolleyes:

Memories from the Senior Bowl: ;)
http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...009bill600.jpg

pauldrulez 21-01-2009 06:19 PM

From ESPN.com
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There was movement on the AFC Pro Bowl quarterback roster on Tuesday.

Both the Jets' Brett Favre and the Chargers' Philip Rivers are not going to play in the game because of injuries. Tennessee's Kerry Collins has been named to the roster. Favre was one of three AFC quarterbacks to be named to the Pro Bowl last month. Rivers was the No. 1 alternate. Collins was the No. 2 alternate.

Favre's absence was long expected. He ended the season with a shoulder injury. He rarely played in the Pro Bowl while with Green Bay. Favre is considering retirement, so he may have played his final game.

Rivers is not playing because of a sore knee, a Chargers' spokesman said Tuesday night. The spokesman said Rivers is not expected to have surgery. Rivers is not expected to miss any of the Chargers' offseason condition program. Rivers suffered a torn ACL in the 2007 playoffs but played without issue in 2008 and had his best NFL season.

Collins was a surprise standout for the Titans, who had the No. 1 seed in the AFC playoffs after going 13-3. Collins, who took over for Vince Young early in the season, threw for 2,678 yards and 12 touchdowns. He will join Peyton Manning of the Colts and Jay Cutler of the Broncos as the AFC's quarterbacks. The game will be played in Honolulu on Feb. 8.

Bill Williamson covers the AFC West for ESPN.com.
Not Pennington?

Not Cassel?

I hope Rivers told them where to stick it when they came calling

pauldrulez 21-01-2009 06:21 PM

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MOBILE, Ala. -- The 2009 Senior Bowl kicked into gear on Monday morning with the annual meat market known as the National Scouting Weigh-In. Players are herded into the Mobile Convention Center Ballroom one at a time in front of a packed house of mostly NFL personnel officials and coaches. Results for each player's height, weight, hand-span (from thumb to pinkie finger) and arm length were announced to the group.

Here are some of the highlights and lowlights:

Senior Bowl arms race
The 2009 senior quarterback class comes up short in several areas and size is one of them. NFL teams value agile quarterbacks in the 6-foot-2 to the 6-4 range more than they value 6-6 statuesque pocket passers, but only three of the quarterbacks here topped 6-2 -- Texas Tech's Graham Harrell, Clemson's Cullen Harper and Sam Houston State's Rhett Bomar. While none of them are considered much of a threat to scramble with the possible exception of Bomar, they move well within the pocket so their size is sufficient. The same cannot be said about West Virginia's Pat White and Central Arkansas' Nathan Brown.
As expected, White measured just 6-feet tall and his rare mobility won't be enough to overcome his inability to scan the field from within the pocket at the NFL level. The good news is he has long arms (33¾ inches) for a player his size, which should help if and when he moves to receiver. Meanwhile, Brown is only half an inch taller than White.

North QB Measurables
Name School Height Weight Hand (inches) Arm (inches)
Rhett Bomar Sam Houston St. 6-2⅛ 224 9¼ 31½
Graham Harrell Texas Tech 6-2 217 9½ 31¼
Nathan Brown Central Arkansas 6-0⅝ 217 9⅝ 30½

South QB Measurables
Name School Height Weight Hand (inches) Arm (inches)
Cullen Harper Clemson 6-2¾ 227 9½ 30½
John Parker Wilson Alabama 6-1½ 215 9⅜ 31
Pat White West Virginia 6-0 190 9⅛ 33¾


First-man-off-the-bus team
What's it's take to make the first-off-the-bus team? Think spokesperson for Under Armour.

USC OLB Brian Cushing: Cushing looks to be in outstanding shape and one scout even compared him to the old "He-Man" cartoon.

Cal Poly WR Ramses Barden: Barden (6-6, 227 pounds, 10⅝" hands, 33¾" arms) has the prototypical build of an NFL receiver and his body type drew comparisons to Olympic swimmer Michael Phelps. In addition, he has the big hands to snatch the ball out of the air.

Oklahoma State TE Brandon Pettigrew: Pettigrew (6-5¼, 257 pounds, 10½" hands, 33¾" arms) looks like a man among boys when lined up next to the rest of the tight ends. His muscle definition is impressive and he has a great wingspan.

Southern Miss' Shawn Nelson: Nelson (6-4¾, 238 pounds, 10⅛" hands, 34½" arms) isn't as imposing as Pettigrew but he looked better than expected. He carries his weight well and he's tall enough to get even bigger without losing much if any speed and/or agility.

Liberty RB Rashad Jennings: Jennings (6-1, 234 pounds, 9⅞" hands, 32½" arms) doesn't have their résumés or their top-end speed, but the small-school prospect looked an awful like 2008 Senior Bowl attendees Rashad Mendenhall and Jonathan Stewart during weigh-ins. He didn't appear to have an ounce of body fat despite tipping the scales at 234 pounds.

Not looking the part
No need for a lengthy explanation here. Hopefully for these players' sake, looks are deceiving.

Tennessee OT Anthony Parker: Parker (6-1⅞, 310 pounds, 10" hands, 34½" arms) just isn't tall enough to carry that kind of weight comfortably and it showed.

Boston College DT Ron Brace: Brace (6-3, 329 pounds, 9⅝" hands, 33¾" arms) is a space eater, so it's not like he needs to win any Mr. Universe awards to make it in the NFL. However, he could shed some of his excess weight in an effort to get a little quicker and agile.

Ole Miss DT Peria Jerry: Unlike Parker and Brace, Jerry (6-1⅝, 290 pounds, 9⅜" hands, 32¼" arms) is a bit undersized and he lacks ideal muscle definition. Somewhat surprising considering how explosive he looks on film at times.

South Carolina WR Kenny McKinley: McKinley (5-11ù, 182 pounds, 8¾" hands, 30¾" arms) doesn't have elite height or weight but that's not the biggest concern here. It's his relatively short arms and small hands that are the greater issues.

Virginia RB Cedric Peerman: You might actually pick Peerman (5-9¼, 210 pounds, 7⅞" hands, 30½" arms) based on his body type but you'd probably reconsider if you knew that he's the only player whose hands measured less than eight inches across. Scouts are going to keep a close eye on his ability to catch and protect the football now.

Coming up short
The rebirth of the 3-4-defense over the last decade has caused more teams to target undersized players who have experience lining up at defensive end with the idea of moving them to outside linebacker. These are players who have problems holding their ground when they put their hands in the dirt but are athletic enough to move to outside linebacker in a 3-4-scheme. We located two players that we feel will likely need to play a rush-linebacker type role to succeed in the NFL due to their marginal size for the traditional end position -- Northern Illinois' Larry English (6-2⅛, 254 pounds) and Connecticut's Cody Brown (6-2⅛, 242 pounds). Of the two, English is a more complete player. He displayed solid technique and a non-stop motor during Monday's practice. English could lock down a Day 1 draft spot if he continues to play at a high level during the remainder of this week's practices and in Saturday's game.


A third on the fringe is Richmond's Lawrence Sidbury. Measuring in at 6-2, 267 pounds, Sidbury lacks ideal height to put his hand in the dirt on a four-man line and he is not as stout as his bulk would indicate. The biggest concern with Sidbury, who is an athletic and relentless pass rusher, is his ability to anchor working against offensive tackles. However, he turned some heads at the East-West Shrine game last week and he's obviously bigger than the three aforementioned prospects. If he can hold his own against the run this week his draft stock should continue to rise.

BMOC
LSU OG Herman Johnson is used to being labeled as "the biggest" in most everything he does. First off, Johnson was the biggest baby ever born in the state of Louisiana. Then he became the largest player in the history of LSU football. As of Monday, he can add to his résumé the unofficial honor of biggest participant in the 2009 Senior Bowl. Johnson checked in at 6-7⅜ and 382 pounds with an enormous hand-span of 11¼ inches and a ridiculous 36-inch arm length.
For all of the other stats: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=3844642

pauldrulez 21-01-2009 06:23 PM

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MOBILE, Ala. -- The first day of practice at the 2009 Under Armour Senior Bowl was notable for a few reasons, including the absence of a pair of big-name prospects.

Georgia Tech DE Michael Johnson was a late scratch, and there are mixed opinions about the reason he is not in Mobile. Some are saying he's letting a minor but lingering shoulder injury rest. Others theorize he simply isn't motivated to deal with what tends to be a mentally and physically grueling week for NFL draft prospects. Either way, Johnson's no-show is being frowned upon by NFL decision-makers. Johnson has the skills of a top-10 player, but he has frequently performed like a middle-round pick. Some have questioned his commitment to the game, so scouts should be planting red flags firmly next to his name.

Michigan State RB Javon Ringer was a late scratch as well. And while there is no official word as to why Ringer will not participate, he is missing out on an opportunity to prove himself as a receiver out of the backfield and on special teams.


North team buzz
• It's especially tough to evaluate linemen in a first-day practice in shorts and shoulder pads, but Boston College DT B.J. Raji is the clear front-runner to emerge as the top lineman from either side of the ball. Raji showed excellent lateral mobility and initial quickness during one-on-one pass rush drills today.

• California's Alex Mack and Oregon's Max Unger are Scouts Inc.'s top two center prospects and are playing next to each other this week. Mack lines up at left guard when Unger lines up under center and vice versa; both fared well at guard on Day 1. Showing that kind of versatility can only help their draft stock, but like Raji they will also give a more accurate read when they are in full pads.
Day 1 from the Senior Bowl from ESPN.

pauldrulez 21-01-2009 06:25 PM

DAY 2 from Senior Bowl.

North Camp:
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MOBILE, Ala. -- The second day of practice for the North team at the 2009 Under Armour Senior Bowl was notable for a few reasons, including the emergence of an Ohio State receiver and the continued struggles of the QBs.

• On Monday, we said that Boston College DT B.J. Raji is the clear front-runner to emerge as the top prospect at lineman -- defensive or offensive -- in his class by the time we leave Mobile. After this morning's practice, we now feel that he is one of the top two or three prospects here regardless of position. Raji continues to showcase his rare blend of size, burst and agility, and he manhandled highly touted Oregon C Max Unger on more than one occasion. In fact, he got under Unger's pads, drove him back and then put him on his back on one snap during one-on-one pass-rushing drills.

• At this point, Raji's collegiate teammate DT Ron Brace is probably used to living in his shadow, but Brace's play hasn't gone unnoticed by the coaches and front-office personnel in attendance. Brace isn't as explosive or athletic as Raji and is a little too top-heavy at times, but he's doing a good job of holding his ground and flashing the ability to collapse the pocket. In other words, he played like a late second-round or early second-day pick today.

• Northern Illinois's Larry English is separating himself from another undersized defensive end/outside linebacker prospect -- Connecticut's Cody Brown -- and working his way into the first day of the draft. English is playing with more of an edge and showing better upper body than Brown as a run defender. He has also been a step quicker around the corner than Brown has been in rushing the passer.

• While Unger clearly had problems sinking his hips and anchoring in pass protection Tuesday despite weighing in at a respectable 299 pounds, Cal C Alex Mack fared better. Missouri DT Ziggy Hood did beat Mack with a spin move during one-on-one pass rush drills, but Mack did a better job of holding his ground. In addition, he looks to be a split-second quicker than Unger.

• Connecticut OT William Beatty has made a favorable impression during his first two days of practice. Beatty clearly needs to get bigger, but he has room on his frame to bulk up and he's already stronger than his size suggests. More importantly, he moves well and has the long arms to ride edge-rushers past the pocket.
From South Camp:
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MOBILE, Ala. -- The temperature dipped nearly 20 degrees on Tuesday and swirling winds factored into both practices. It was the first of two days in which both teams will practice in full pads and the intensity level was ratcheted up a few notches as a result.

We have yet to reach the midway point of the 2009 Senior Bowl week, yet players are beginning to separate from the pack in both positive and negative ways. Here's a quick list of some of the early-week standouts from across both rosters:

Biggest risers
1. Boston College DT B.J. Raji
2. Southern Miss TE Shawn Nelson
3. USC linebackers Rey Maualuga, Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews
4. Western Michigan S Louis Delmas
5. California C Alex Mack


Biggest fallers
1. KSU G Herman Johnson
2. Central Arkansas QB Nate Brown
3. Alabama QB John Parker Wilson
4. Oklahoma OT Phil Loadholt
5. Penn State WR/RS Derrick Williams

The South team's second day of practice at the 2009 Under Armour Senior Bowl was notable for a few reasons, including USC linebackers running wild, a Clemson QB frustrating scouts and an LSU lineman's surprising struggles.

• USC's Brian Cushing is the rare prospect who will fit in any defensive scheme in the NFL. He can play inside or outside in either a 3-4 or 4-3. Very few linebackers have that ability. Where he looked best, though, was over the tight end as a strongside linebacker in the 4-3. His body type, power and aggression lend well to doing battle with opposing tight ends. For a taller linebacker, he gets low and is not a leverage liability. He showed quick hips turning and running with the tight ends. The one area in which he didn't look quite as comfortable was in his read-and-react skills while working in zone coverage. But overall, Cushing's wide skill set drastically reduces his draft-bust factor. If anyone here is a great fit for New England, it's Cushing.

• Cushing's teammate at USC, Clay Matthews, continues to be extremely impressive. He bends very well and always seems to be in proper football position. His change of direction is abrupt yet smooth. As an edge rusher, he did not lose speed bending the corner and got his shoulder low to the ground, making him very difficult to block. His pad level is consistently exceptional and he is an excellent hit-on-the-rise player who makes contact with the same leg and shoulder when taking on blocks. Matthews is very fundamentally sound but also very athletic. He would be an immediate demon on special teams while learning the linebacker position at the NFL level. At this point, it won't surprise us if the USC trio of Cushing, Matthews and Rey Maualuga are all off the board in the first 40 picks.

• Southern Miss TE Shawn Nelson continues to turn heads. He isn't the biggest tight end and this type of forum plays very well to his skill set, but his tools are undeniable. He looks like a Dallas Clark-type prospect who can create a lot of schematic problems for an NFL defense if he ends up with a creative and innovative offensive coordinator at the next level. Nelson is a seam-stretching presence who is capable of plucking the ball outside his frame and presents a big target area for his quarterback. He covers a lot of ground and can run past linebackers in man coverage. More surprising, however, has been Nelson's effectiveness as a blocker -- particularly in pass pro. His lateral agility and ability to recover were on full display during the one-on-one drills. He also was able to drop his hips and handle the bull rush from the linebackers off the edge. Needless to say, Nelson is climbing up NFL draft boards this week.

• There are some things that just make you scratch your head in wonder. Take Clemson QB Cullen Harper's Tuesday performance, for example. Harper displayed great balance in the pocket and the arm strength to make all the throws, including a deep out throw from the opposite hash to Arizona WR Mike Thomas that had plenty of zip and hit Thomas directly on the numbers during one-on-one drills. But Harper then missed wide-open South Carolina WR Kenny McKinley a few throws later. This is the same inconsistency that plagued Harper throughout last season. It is also evident Harper struggles with accuracy when he has to anticipate and throw to a spot. A clear example came during seven-on-seven drills when Harper was late anticipating Thomas on a deep dig route, forcing Thomas to open up and make a circus catch. Harper appears to have the physical tools for the NFL level but it is his mental capacity that has scouts weary at this point.

• Speaking of Thomas, he has taken full advantage of the all-star game circuit, starting with the East-West Shrine game and continuing to add to his solid resume here at the Senior Bowl. Thomas' consistency has caught the attention of scouts. He continues to display excellent quickness off the line of scrimmage that gives him an adequate initial cushion to work with against defenders. He also has been able to create separation with quick and crisp cuts out his stem. His hands have been his most impressive trait, though. He's been able to haul in almost every pass he can get his hands on over the past two weeks. Thomas has a chance to make himself a lot of money coming out of this week if he can sustain his current level through Saturday's game action.

Strathclyde Eagle 21-01-2009 06:50 PM

Good work Paul. :p

Talk of moving Pat White to WR is just about borderline racism. I hate it when that happens to black QBs.

And as for Ringer pulling out... well, some media members raised concern about the number of touches he had through the year. Now he misses some and that's a fault? Strange. He's still in my top 3 backs (him, Moreno and Shonn Greene - no, I don't consider Beanie Wells to be anywhere near that good).

Back on the subject of the NFL present, did anyone else hear that story on PTI last night regarding Cowboys' flights during the season? 5 out of 8 left late, and Wade Phillips wanted to increase fines on the players involved. Guess who overruled him?

elliott 21-01-2009 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Good work Paul. :p

Talk of moving Pat White to WR is just about borderline racism. I hate it when that happens to black QBs.

I know the Trifecta are looking at him, and quite probably at WR.

pauldrulez 21-01-2009 08:52 PM

I have one more of value post about the 3 USC Linebackers, posted on Patriots.com via the NFL coverage.

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MOBILE, Ala. - The position cycle that takes turns annually when it comes to NFL draft prospects has stopped again at linebacker in 2009, just two years after providing the league Patrick Willis, Jon Beason and LaMarr Woodley.

This time, though, the bounty is far more plentiful, as thumpers, rushers and coverage specialists have teams at the top end of the draft set to select their next playmaker, while teams at the middle and lower ends of the first round -- and maybe even second round -- know they'll be able to fill holes where holes, literally, need to be plugged.

"Last year the depth was at offensive tackle, this year you've got quality guys at linebacker, and the thing about it, they are veteran guys, not all juniors so you'll have some guys that have some experience and production," Redskins executive vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato said Tuesday after a practice for Saturday's Under Armour Senior Bowl. "Some of these guys can play inside and some can play multiple spots. This group has really smart, good leaders and that's what you're looking for."

Last season, there were just eight linebackers drafted in the first three rounds. USC's Keith Rivers was the highest pick at No. 9 (Cincinnati). The Patriots drafted Jerod Mayo with the 10th pick and Mayo blossomed into the NFL's Defensive Rookie of the Year. Curtis Lofton, drafted in the second round with the 37th overall selection, was the only inside/middle linebacker selected in the top three rounds.

Lofton (94 tackles) and Mayo (128 tackles) were the only full-time starters to finish the season. Rivers was on his way but he went on injured reserve with a broken jaw, courtesy of a nasty block by Pittsburgh's Hines Ward. Three other rookie linebackers drafted in the top three rounds -– Tavares Gooden (Baltimore), Dan Connor (Carolina) and Shawn Crable (New England) –- also went on IR before completing the season.

This year's group of linebackers features more inside players and more depth and possibly more impact potential. One of, if not the top linebacker draft prospect, is USC middle linebacker Rey Maualuga, who opted not to come out as a junior last year and now is projected as a top-10 pick.

He is one of three USC linebackers at the Senior Bowl, with outside linebackers Brian Cushing and Clay Matthews the others. Like Maualuga, Cushing is expected to be selected in the first round, as could Matthews –- son of former NFL linebacker Clay Matthews. Ohio State's James Laurinaitis, an inside linebacker, and Wake Forest's Aaron Curry, are potential top-10 picks who are not at the Senior Bowl.

"The linebacker group in this year's draft is a very solid group," Miami general manager Jeff Ireland said. "There's some depth there. It's a very solid group."

Every team at the top of the draft, starting with Detroit, which owns the No. 1 overall pick, could use help at linebacker. The Saints, Washington, Kansas City, New England and Baltimore approached Maualuga and Cushing after Tuesday's practice. The Atlanta Falcons and Tampa Bay Buccaneers also could be replenishing at least one outside linebacker spot.

South team coach Jack Del Rio of the Jacksonville Jaguars -– a USC product –- said he is very impressed with the group of linebackers his alma mater sent him, adding that Maualuga "could be something very special."

At least at this point, Maualuga, isn't quite sure.

"I just came out here to be discovered," said a serious Maualuga. "The coaches may know my name but they don't know how I practice with elite players. They don't know how I compete against tough competition. I want to come out here and give everything I've got and hopefully, my play will speak for itself."

As Maualuga spoke, Cerrato stood outside of a small huddle of reporters, watching how the middle linebacker, who sports the long hair and speaks in the hushed tones of Pittsburgh Steelers safety -– and USC product –- Troy Polamalu. In fact, Maualuga's style of play is similar to that of Polamalu's, except Maualuga (250) weighs about 40 pounds more.

Cerrato's observation of Maualuga showed that the NFL evaluation process these days is more than how a player competes and interviews. It seems to also include how a possible star handles himself with the media.

Maualuga was poised and calm, admitting that, "Off the field I am a soft-spoken guy who likes to keep to myself and doesn't really talk to people," he said. "On the field I come out there and flip the switch. I don't play for myself. I practice for my family and all the other people that doubted me. That switch goes on and it's a different person.

"I've got a lot to prove.
I came out here to get discovered and show coaches the things I didn't get to establish during the season. That I've gotten better. I want to show that I am a complete player. I'm not trying to do too much. I'm just going to try to turn some heads."

Literally, and maybe, figuratively.

The infusion of linebacker talent couldn't come at a more convenient time, as linchpin mainstays like Zack Thomas, Ray Lewis, Keith Brooking, Tedy Bruschi, Mike Peterson and Derrick Brooks are winding down their careers. Mayo, Willis, Beason, Barrett Ruud, James Harrison, DeMarcus Ware, Woodley, Lofa Tatupu, Terrell Suggs and other upstarts have begun the transition, yet there never seems to be enough linebackers to complete the puzzle.

More and more teams, especially those who play 4-3 fronts, are in need of a big-hitting middle linebacker to ease the burden on safeties having to make tackles close to the line of scrimmage. Those teams that play 3-4 fronts want pass rushers with closing speed to limit opponents' big-play potential, especially those teams that thrive off the zone blitz.

What makes this incoming group of linebackers special, besides their athletic gifts and physical nature, is their intelligence. Coaches at the Senior Bowl are throwing boatloads of information at them to see if they make the right calls on passing and run schemes, not only on the field but in the film room. If a linebacker can't figure those things out now, all his physical tools might not mean much.

"Each linebacker has their own responsibility," Matthews said. "We have to talk, figure out whether we're in man coverage or not. We're all having to make special reads. This is why it's good we're here because this is different than [coaches] seeing us on film. They're able to see how we play in person. See what type of competitors we are. With the linebackers in the draft being so deep, you have to set yourself apart and show that you have something in you that makes you want to show why you're better than the other guys."

pauldrulez 21-01-2009 08:59 PM

And I know I said no more Patriots rumours etc etc.

BUT, (this is not something made up by me or via any non-Patriots sources, it is in fact discussed by the writers in their AskPFW segment as well).

There is a buzz going around of big Free Agency movements as well as one trade on defense. This is due to the rumours of Bruschi, Vrabel and Harrison retiring as well as the 3 secondary members moving on. And BB has been furious at the Pass Rush as well.

The rumour is a trade of Matt Cassel and a conditional pick for Julius Peppers who wants out of Carolina and wants to go to a 3-4 system. Sounds ridiculous at first, but when you look at it, Delhomme has been hurt, and that playoff performance was frankly embarrassing and likely the final straw. To me, the deal is still unlikely, but I would love it.

The possible Free Agent pickups that I have been told are Jonathan Vilma from New Orleans to go along side Mayo. And either Nnamdi Asomugha (if not franchised) or Jabari Greer of the Buffalo Bills, who like Asomugha was deliberately thrown at in the games against their teams to see how they could handle Randy Moss as he lined up against them.

Take it as I have, as something I have been told by the same person who told me about the Franchising of Cassel and the confirmation of the Wembley game. He has been reliable so far, but I haven't heard anything as big as this from him.

pauldrulez 21-01-2009 09:28 PM

More Senior Bowl news:

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MOBILE, Ala. - Before he was barely able to take off his helmet following the North team's practice Tuesday morning, Oklahoma State tight end Brandon Pettigrew was met by scouts from Baltimore, Tampa Bay and Atlanta about setting up interviews for later in the day.

Those won't be the last teams wanting to talk to -- or about -- the top-rated tight end prospect, who, after two days of drills, has done nothing to hurt his stock or first-round projection.

"I'm not real used to that, people reaching out, grabbing for me," said Pettigrew, who caught 112 passes in four seasons at Oklahoma State.

"What's probably helping me is that [NFL offenses] have opened up and teams are splitting big guys and tight ends out and have been trying to do more with them," Pettigrew said. "I fit that. I'm versatile but I am trying to be more complete being attached to the formation and being split out as well."

While Pettigrew said playing in a spread offense at Oklahoma State helped showcase him as a receiver, it opened up questions about his in-line blocking skills. At 6-foot-6 with very long arms, Pettigrew is trying to prove that he is more than capable of holding his own at the line of scrimmage and he did a solid job of sealing off edge defenders on sweep plays during team drills Tuesday.

"They threw us in there and have us doing it all," Pettigrew said of the practice regimen. "When I played early in my career, I wasn't getting it done blocking. I was undersized, about 218 (pounds). I'm up to 257, but I've gotten a lot more attention because we went to the spread."
I'm looking around for the interview lists from each team so far.
Looking for Pats, Phins, Ravens, Panthers, Steelers, Cowboys and Eagles.

They are the main teams featured on here. Any others will be a positive :)


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