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pauldrulez 09-03-2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by peagle
I reckon it's 99% a hoax but interesting if they went with them, moving away from a classic look (which I quite like at the moment). Wouldn't say thyey were without any charm.

Blue jerseys are lucky as well as plain and simple. You can get away with going out for an hour wearing it with jeans and not looking a pleb.

Whereas you wear the other one and you look a complete nob.

Alternate Red jerseys are nice, but the video footage of the Patriots playing in red through history. Not so good.

Stick with the blue.

pauldrulez 09-03-2011 11:14 AM

Palace's season and the impending doom of the NFL are causing problems with my following of the offseason.

Only so many times you can do a mock draft before you repeat yourself.

I say that Bill should trade up with the 2 firsts and get Robert Quinn. Wanted him since this time last year.

Swanny32 09-03-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Palace's season and the impending doom of the NFL are causing problems with my following of the offseason.

Only so many times you can do a mock draft before you repeat yourself.

I say that Bill should trade up with the 2 firsts and get Robert Quinn. Wanted him since this time last year.

Quinn looks good and with the right coaching he should be a very dominant force in the NFL however I'm slightly skeptical given the fact that he didn't play at all last year, still a top 10 pick I reckon but too much of a risk for someone to pick over Bowers should Bowers be another option for a team come their time to pick.

I'm jealous of the team who get Von Miller, outside linebacker from Texas A&M predicted to be a top 10 pick, most mock drafts I have looked at have him going 4th or 5th. My cousin goes to Texas A&M so has seen him play a lot and he really rates the guy, says that he is such a dominant figure on the Texas D that you can't help but watch everything he does on the field. I would love to have a LB like that in Philly.

One player I am really looking forward to seeing in the NFL (hopefully) next season is Patrick Peterson out of LSU. They had a piece on him on Total Access last week which I paid particular interest in as one mock draft I saw a few months ago had him falling to us, which now will never happen. He looks the part, athletic, strong, smart and a little bit of swagger, he'd fit perfectly in our D opposite Samuel but if he isn't picked in the top 10, maybe 5 even, I'll be amazed, some mocks I have seen have him going as high as 2nd.

For Philly's first round pick I'm holding out hope that Mike Pouncey falls to us, he's have his brother a few hours drive up the road in Pittsburg, he'd slot right in on our O-Line as a starter and should he be as good as his brother albeit in a slightly different position, he'll be a great pick for us. Failing that I'm hoping we get Anthony Costanzo, don't know a lot about him and didn't see him perform in the combine but the guys on NFL Network seem to like him.

I think our draft board will all depend on where Asamugha ends up, if we can get him then I'm hoping Andy Reid addresses the O Line in the first round, if we don't land him, which is very likely, then I'm hoping for him to take a corner in round 1 or at the most round 2, we really have got to sort that RCB position out. That being said, it also depends on what his plan is with Vick, if he is going to try and get him sitting in the pocket more then we have no choice but to look at O Line in the first and probably 2nd round.

Benzhiyi 09-03-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince Hilaire's Afro
It's a moot point. Whatever uniform they choose, the Pats will look, and of course be, tossers of the highest degree.

It's funny 'cause it's true.

ardeo 09-03-2011 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny32
For Philly's first round pick I'm holding out hope that Mike Pouncey falls to us, he's have his brother a few hours drive up the road in Pittsburg, he'd slot right in on our O-Line as a starter and should he be as good as his brother albeit in a slightly different position, he'll be a great pick for us. Failing that I'm hoping we get Anthony Costanzo, don't know a lot about him and didn't see him perform in the combine but the guys on NFL Network seem to like him.

I think our draft board will all depend on where Asamugha ends up, if we can get him then I'm hoping Andy Reid addresses the O Line in the first round, if we don't land him, which is very likely, then I'm hoping for him to take a corner in round 1 or at the most round 2, we really have got to sort that RCB position out. That being said, it also depends on what his plan is with Vick, if he is going to try and get him sitting in the pocket more then we have no choice but to look at O Line in the first and probably 2nd round.

I think OL is more of a problem than CB, between them Patterson and Hobbs should be solid, and i like the look of Lindley too. We struggled when we had injuries there last season rather than lack of quality up top, where as we really need to be able to have a better run game and protect Vick's blind side better. Happy that most mock drafts have us picking up an OL in the first. Depending what happens with Kolb might even have a couple of first rounders, or at least two seconds to strengthen elsewhere. Would like to see us take a LB high as well. Could do with an upgrade at WLB or someone to take over from Bradley as MLB due to his injury concerns. Also didn't like Chaney as he looked too small there.

Swanny32 09-03-2011 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ardeo
I think OL is more of a problem than CB, between them Patterson and Hobbs should be solid, and i like the look of Lindley too. We struggled when we had injuries there last season rather than lack of quality up top, where as we really need to be able to have a better run game and protect Vick's blind side better. Happy that most mock drafts have us picking up an OL in the first. Depending what happens with Kolb might even have a couple of first rounders, or at least two seconds to strengthen elsewhere. Would like to see us take a LB high as well. Could do with an upgrade at WLB or someone to take over from Bradley as MLB due to his injury concerns. Also didn't like Chaney as he looked too small there.

Hobbs is toilet, Patterson started really well and then faded, when Samuel was out toward the tail end of the season Patterson looked way out of his depth. Lindley looked ok but I think we'd be able to get someone a lot better than him in the draft which would ease the pressure on him as well as the rest of the CB's. Agreed that we need to strengthen our LB's, I don't think we need to look for someone to take over from Bradley though, he was quality last season and the injuries he got weren't recurring injuries, he got a concussion which seemed to happen to a handful of players on a weekly basis and then got a dislocated elbow which could happen to anyone. WLB is a definite area of concern, address that position and I like our LB's a lot as I'm a big fan of Ernie.

For me, O-Line, Cornerback and then D-Line as the class of D Lineman is so strong this year we should be able to pick up a quality player in the 3rd round and as you say, if we can offload Kolb before the end of April we could have another 1st or 2nd round pick which would be very beneficial. I wouldn't mind betting that one of the 6 or 7 teams looking to for a QB make a trade for Kolb but we'll probably end up with a pick this year and a pick in next years draft for him.

ardeo 09-03-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny32
Hobbs is toilet, Patterson started really well and then faded, when Samuel was out toward the tail end of the season Patterson looked way out of his depth. Lindley looked ok but I think we'd be able to get someone a lot better than him in the draft which would ease the pressure on him as well as the rest of the CB's. Agreed that we need to strengthen our LB's, I don't think we need to look for someone to take over from Bradley though, he was quality last season and the injuries he got weren't recurring injuries, he got a concussion which seemed to happen to a handful of players on a weekly basis and then got a dislocated elbow which could happen to anyone. WLB is a definite area of concern, address that position and I like our LB's a lot as I'm a big fan of Ernie.

For me, O-Line, Cornerback and then D-Line as the class of D Lineman is so strong this year we should be able to pick up a quality player in the 3rd round and as you say, if we can offload Kolb before the end of April we could have another 1st or 2nd round pick which would be very beneficial. I wouldn't mind betting that one of the 6 or 7 teams looking to for a QB make a trade for Kolb but we'll probably end up with a pick this year and a pick in next years draft for him.

Hobbs is solid, Patterson isn't a number 1 CB so unsurprising he struggled a bit against a WR1. I don't think its a big concern really. I think any LB could be a decent improvement on the team, Sims is good against the run, but not so much against the pass and WLB isn't great with Fokou/Jordan. I like Bradley, but don't think he's dominating enough at MLB, would love an elite MLB and Bradley at strong and Sims at weak.

Could do with some more strength at DT, stopping the run and getting pressure on the passer.

Swanny32 09-03-2011 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ardeo
Hobbs is solid, Patterson isn't a number 1 CB so unsurprising he struggled a bit against a WR1. I don't think its a big concern really. I think any LB could be a decent improvement on the team, Sims is good against the run, but not so much against the pass and WLB isn't great with Fokou/Jordan. I like Bradley, but don't think he's dominating enough at MLB, would love an elite MLB and Bradley at strong and Sims at weak.

Could do with some more strength at DT, stopping the run and getting pressure on the passer.

Not a fan of Hobbs at all. Patterson I like and I am always willing him to do well (partly also because I have him in our Madden franchise) but he looked really poor in the second half of the season last year.

I'd love to get Von Miller in (although it'll never happen) he's exactly what our D needs, dominating presence, good against the run as well as the pass and a leader. I wonder if Bradley would be any good as an OLB?

Agree about DT, we have the edges covered with the Hunter, Gram and the Hulk but inside we get stuffed, there are worse players around in the league than the guys we have at the position but in order for us to get to the promised land we really do need someone elite at DT.

If I was Reid though I'd be addressing OL in Rd1, CB in Rd2 and then DT in Rd3. I really think we need a better corner opposite #22.

Swanny32 09-03-2011 03:13 PM

As I said though, all comes down to free agency and whether a deal is done with the CBA, if we can address a couple of areas in free agency BEFORE the draft then the whole draft board changes. I would love us to trade up and take Patrick Peterson whatever the case though.

pauldrulez 09-03-2011 05:14 PM

For the Eagles fans discussing their CB situation.

Just an FYI.

Ellis Hobbs III retired a month or so ago due to his injury.

pauldrulez 09-03-2011 05:17 PM

And I agree with Swanny.

Von Miller will be very good. They're trying to associate him with Gholston now.

Completely different player.

Would love him in NE, but he doesn't fit the Belichick 3-4 OLB mould. 6-4, 260, 4.6 40.

Swanny32 09-03-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
For the Eagles fans discussing their CB situation.

Just an FYI.

Ellis Hobbs III retired a month or so ago due to his injury.

You're right, I did read about that and completely forgot about it. He was toilet anyway.

pauldrulez 09-03-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny32
You're right, I did read about that and completely forgot about it. He was toilet anyway.

One of the most consistent Kick Returners in the league though.

If you'd kept Sheldon Brown, Hobbs would be a very good 3rd CB.

When people threw at NE or Philly, they threw at Hobbs, not at Samuel.

Swanny32 09-03-2011 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
And I agree with Swanny.

Von Miller will be very good. They're trying to associate him with Gholston now.

Completely different player.

Would love him in NE, but he doesn't fit the Belichick 3-4 OLB mould. 6-4, 260, 4.6 40.

I really really would love him in Philly, it's not often when I think, why the hell couldn't we have been really shit last year so we stood a chance of picking him, helps that he's out of a college related to my family as well.

Swanny32 09-03-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
One of the most consistent Kick Returners in the league though.

If you'd kept Sheldon Brown, Hobbs would be a very good 3rd CB.

When people threw at NE or Philly, they threw at Hobbs, not at Samuel.

His kick return abilities outshone anything else he did on the field. As we have taken Hobbs and Samuel from you, maybe Bill will let us have Devin?? ;)

ardeo 09-03-2011 06:26 PM

Missed Hobbs, shows how much i've been keeping up recently. In that case we do definitely need a CB to play in the nickel, as Lindley isn't good enough to play regularly and neither is Hanson. Wouldn't want to rely on Patterson all season at 2 either.

I think it was a shame we let Brown go, but haven't seen him do too much for the Browns, (63 combined tackles, 10 pdef and 2 INTs), solid if unspectacular.

Think we are ok at safety though.

Swanny32 09-03-2011 07:32 PM

I'd like us to take a safety in the draft at some point just as backup really, think we are a bit thin there but it's probably a position we could look at through FA.

Swanny32 09-03-2011 08:08 PM

Don't know if anyone has tried this out yet.

http://www.nfl-360.com/pick-team

Oddly enough, for "Sports match" I was suggested the 49ers, the team I would consider my 2nd team, for "Locker Room" I was suggested the Eagles, obviously my team and for "Gut Instinct" I was suggested the Phins, the team I had a soft spot for as a kid as my Dad was/is a Dolphins fan.

Vince Hilaire's Afro 09-03-2011 08:17 PM

I got NY Giants for Sports Match and Gut instinct. **** that!

(And San Diego for Locker Room)

Vince Hilaire's Afro 09-03-2011 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny32
I'd like us to take a safety in the draft at some point just as backup really, think we are a bit thin there but it's probably a position we could look at through FA.

Any idea how your team drafts? Some teams base it on needs, others on the best player available. Panthers usually go for best player available, which has always worked out pretty well except for last year.


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