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pauldrulez 23-11-2008 11:21 PM

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Actually, scrap that. Why should I take a win with respect. You dont get revenge handed to you all the time.

AddiscombeEagle 23-11-2008 11:41 PM

As probably the only person who didn't watch the Pats game, I am probably talking to myself, but the Raven's defense was amazing.

108 yd interception return late on was the icing on the cake.

Flacco looked iffy at times but came good overall. McNab got benched at half time.

jlmatthews 23-11-2008 11:45 PM

Well done the Jets.

And I still am having trouble understanding how the Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco are doing so well. Flacco has a lot of help of the other side of the ball, but is doing his part. Will be interesting to see if Ryan has some sort of sophomore slump or not. He's been impressive.

pauldrulez 23-11-2008 11:46 PM

68yd fg attempt by the Cards...

pauldrulez 23-11-2008 11:48 PM

Its a kick from the tee rather than the holder and snap due to a fair catch from a 3 and out punt.

Rackers sets it up.

That sucked.

It landed at about the 20 and ended up returned.

That was funny though, 5 minutes of prep for the worst kick ever.

Hedgehog 23-11-2008 11:54 PM

What was that all about? Some kind of free kick... never been attempted for donkeys years.

Where is out expert JLM to explain?

Hedgehog 23-11-2008 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Its a kick from the tee rather than the holder and snap due to a fair catch from a 3 and out punt.

Please explain?

pauldrulez 23-11-2008 11:59 PM

Dont know myself neither did the commentators, but the offense were out on the field before someone realised it could be done.

I'll do my research and find out for you :)

pauldrulez 24-11-2008 12:02 AM

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Fair catch kicks can only occur when a member of the receiving team signals for, and successfully makes, a fair catch (or is awarded a fair catch after a kick-catch interference penalty.) That team then has the option of restarting play either by snap or fair catch kick. If the team elects the fair catch kick option, the kicking team lines up at the spot where the fair catch was made, and the opposing team must line up at least ten yards downfield. The kicker then may either place kick the ball from a teammate's hold (a kickoff tee may be used in high school) or drop kick the ball. Three points are awarded for kicking the ball through the uprights
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The last successful fair catch kick in the NFL was by Mac Percival in 1968, scoring the game-winning field goal for the Chicago Bears against the Green Bay Packers. Through the 2008 season, 11 more have been attempted, none successful. Most recently, the Arizona Cardinals attempted an unsuccessful fair catch kick against the New York Giants on November 23, 2008.
And they appear to have attempted this before but failed:
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Arizona Cardinals vs. St. Louis Rams, September 24, 2006.[33]
Down 16-14, Troy Walters fair caught a punt at his own 33 with no time left in regulation. Arizona's Robert Griffith was offside on the punt, but Rams coach Scott Linehan declined the penalty, thinking the game was over. Neil Rackers and the Cardinals' field goal unit lined up for the 77-yard free kick, but the Rams, given another chance to accept the penalty, did so, and took a knee on the final play of the game.

jlmatthews 24-11-2008 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog
What was that all about? Some kind of free kick... never been attempted for donkeys years.

Where is out expert JLM to explain?

I didn't see it... and could do no better than Paul for explaining. Want to see it though. Will probably be on SportsCenter...

Hedgehog 24-11-2008 02:23 AM

I think Paul did a great job of research there.

I was channel surfing and came across it as they were dicking around with the kick. I didn't see what lead up to it.

Hedgehog 24-11-2008 02:41 AM

How bad must Denver be?

elliott 24-11-2008 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Actually, scrap that. Why should I take a win with respect. You dont get revenge handed to you all the time.

I wouldn't call it revenge. Especially given we all picked the pats to win.

I expected absolutely nothing from today. We're a bad team.

elliott 24-11-2008 03:39 AM

And onto Elliott's specialist subject....

The free kick from a fair catch.

Last attempted by Rob Bironas. I think Louis Aguiar attempted one too a while back.

If you catch a fair catch, you have a right to a free kick at the posts, from a free hold (like a kick from safety) but with no tee. If it goes over, 3 points. 68 yards is a toughie though.

There have been a fair few attempts in time.

Not allowed in college ball though...

Massively underused IMO...

saxoneagle 24-11-2008 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by elliott
We're a bad team.

I'm not going to boast about today, because I don't do that.

But I don't buy that anymore. Same as the Jets. All their fans say how bad they are. But bad teams don't win in this league. They just don't. You might not be great, but you are not a bad team.

Sorry, but that is basically your way of giving us no credit for today.

elliott 24-11-2008 03:50 AM

I really think we're a bad team... We've looked dreadful recently... Really blagged the wins.

I don't think you deserve no credit for today, don't get me wrong. Part of it for me is that no-one ever does the double on the Pats. It just doesn't happen! They have that revenge mentality which means that if you annoy them once, you aren't going to get lucky the second time.

But fair play... you won to make it interesting.

But anyone thats watched the Fins this year would still say that we're a bad team. Maybe everyone has got worse too, but we've looked flat out bad very often this year!

elliott 24-11-2008 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by elliott
And onto Elliott's specialist subject....

The free kick from a fair catch.

Last attempted by Rob Bironas. I think Louis Aguiar attempted one too a while back.

..

My bad... As soon as I wrote this, I knew it didn't look right... I meant Rafael Septien, not Louis Aguiar.

jlmatthews 24-11-2008 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog

I was channel surfing and came across it as they were dicking around with the kick.

Excellent use of the word dicking. Very American of you :p

Hedgehog 24-11-2008 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by jlmatthews
Excellent use of the word dicking. Very American of you :p

Thank you! :p

RDSdaEAGLE 24-11-2008 05:25 AM

SD. That's the 4th time we've lost in the last few seconds. Absolutely awful season.


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