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jazman 10-12-2008 01:22 PM

Boy, that was some read through since I last showed my face. And, yes, I think I learned something ;)

Watched NFL Gameday last night, and after zapping through the first match on there the rest of the highlights were pretty good. Very impressed with what the Ravens do and their great win over the Skins. Two fantastic rookie QBs doing a job very well this season in Flacco and Ryan. And a massive mention must go to the Eagles. What have they been taking? :D Interesting to find out how Jacobs injury is for the Giants seeing as we play them this weekend in a MUST win game ...

Strathclyde Eagle 10-12-2008 01:28 PM

Haven't listened to the Simmons podcast yet so I can freely speculate...

Giants @ Dallas: No Burress, possibly no Jacobs, Dallas with Romo, on home turf, must win game for the Cowboys. Cowboys by 3.

If someone can tell me how far off I am I'd appreciate it. :p

jazman 10-12-2008 01:33 PM

I'd go with that Strath. I was very impressed with our performance last week other than the final score of course ... Just need to eradicate the errors (mainly Romo). Not sure why Whitten took the blame last week and TO mouthing off doesn't help. If there was a chance to beat the Giants then this is it. Although saying that we beat them in both regular season matches last year and lost the play off game.

Strathclyde Eagle 10-12-2008 01:38 PM

Forgot the New York bias in the spread. I'm thinking now it might be something like Dallas by 1.5.

jazman 10-12-2008 01:43 PM

As long as it's a win I don't really care :D But it'll be close I'm sure. Just hope we don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory ... :sob:

saxoneagle 10-12-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Interesting points from Porter regarding the Plaxico Burress situation:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/s...=ESPNHeadlines

Probably more calm and reasoned than Porter's detractors would like to read. I'm not a fan of guns in the slightest but I can see why what he says makes sense.

Interesting related story to regarding NFL player safety:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3711336

The point on PTI was that if you are going somewhere and you feel the need to carry a gun to be safe, DON'T GO THERE.

Alternatively, hire a professional outfit to protect you, something which the NFL make available to all players and coaches.

It's not like he's short of money to hire someone for the night.

No excuse to have a gun, especially not an unlicenced, concealed handgun which would be illegal in most states even if it was licenced.

Strathclyde Eagle 10-12-2008 01:49 PM

I don't think Porter disputed that Burress was stupid on that night. The problem he (and other players according to the second link) is feeling safe in their everyday lives and even their own homes.

pauldrulez 10-12-2008 01:49 PM

http://www.walterfootball.com/emmitt2013.php

This is one of the funniest reads in a long time. I've spent my last 20 minutes scrolling through it in college (slowest load and scroll time in history here)

My favourite quote:

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The booing began after the first play of the game. Matt Stafford, who had 2,755 yards, 17 touchdowns and just eight picks going into this contest, fired incomplete on his first pass. Reid decided to insert newly signed Ty Detmer at quarterback. However, Stafford wasn't notified to come off the field, so the 49ers were whistled for having 12 men in the huddle.

After this penalty, Stafford approached Reid on the sidelines, and asked why he was quickly yanked. Reid, who stared at his play sheet instead of looking at his star quarterback, told Stafford that he sent him a message via carrier pigeon, and clearly the pigeon hadn't arrived.

Reid denied eating the pigeon in his post-game press conference, but admitted he wasn't completely sure. It didn't help his case that he coughed up a couple of gray feathers after that question. Reid then discussed the reasoning behind the Stafford benching.
:D

Lots of fat jokes at Reid and Crennel

pauldrulez 10-12-2008 02:07 PM

What are the chances in Cassel ending up in Tampa Bay next year? :o

Benzhiyi 10-12-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Why he didnt want to go to San Diego?

or Why did the Chargers pick him?

Either way, its worked out for the Chargers, Rivers is a better QB (IMHO of course although inconsistent) and they got a lot of picks out of it at the time.

Disagree. After what Eli did last season I don't think you can claim Rivers is superior.

Benzhiyi 10-12-2008 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
What are the chances in Cassel ending up in Tampa Bay next year? :o

Possible, but if he's sensible he'll go wherever Josh McDaniels goes to be Head Coach.

Philly, St Louis, Detroit, Minnesota all fit the bill for both...

ardeo 10-12-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez

Quality stuff, had to stop reading it as I kept having to stop myself laughing in the office.

I liked the comeback against the Raiders in particular :D

pauldrulez 10-12-2008 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzhiyi
Possible, but if he's sensible he'll go wherever Josh McDaniels goes to be Head Coach.

Philly, St Louis, Detroit, Minnesota all fit the bill for both...

Detroit is where I think it will happen.

I wonder if we can trade Pioli, McDaniels and Cassel to them :eek: Thats what they need to have some sort of decent franchise.

We'll throw in Dean Pees as well, he's not very good.

nookiebear 10-12-2008 05:31 PM

:sob:

Skins season goes from bad to worse

Portis lashes out at Zorn after being benched against Ravens

Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- Washington Redskins running back Clinton Portis unleashed a load of frustration toward rookie coach Jim Zorn on Tuesday, criticizing the coach for giving inconsistent messages and flippantly calling Zorn a "genius."
"Either you feel like you need to sever ties with me -- split ties with me -- but don't sit here and throw me out like I don't pay attention, like I don't know what's going on, like I'm making mistakes, like I'm the problem."
-- Clinton Portis

Portis, in his weekly appearance on WTEM-AM radio, was still smarting from his lack of playing time in Sunday's 24-10 loss to the Baltimore Ravens, when he was removed from the game after the first series of the second half.

"Either you feel like you need to sever ties with me -- split ties with me -- but don't sit here and throw me out like I don't pay attention, like I don't know what's going on, like I'm making mistakes, like I'm the problem," Portis said. "It is what it is, bro."

Portis, third in the NFL in rushing with 1,260 yards, had only 11 carries for 32 yards Sunday. His strong start to the season -- five consecutive 120-yard games from Weeks 4-8 -- helped lead the Redskins to a 6-2 start, but he has barely practiced over the last few weeks because of injuries to his knee, ribs and neck. He has not missed a game but has tallied only 54 yards the last two weeks for the Redskins (7-6), who have lost four of five.

Zorn said Monday he did not use Portis for most of the second half against the Ravens because Portis' lack of practice time had finally caught up to the running back. The coach said Portis had stayed in to block too long instead of going out for a pass on some occasions in the first half.

Zorn went instead with backup Ladell Betts, whom the coach felt was in better position to handle the pass plays that quarterback Jason Campbell and the Redskins were attempting with a two-touchdown deficit.

Portis begged to differ with the coach's assessment.

"Jason on his (butt) all game long, you try to stay in and help, then it's 'Aw, you should have gone out. ... If he's over there and can't breathe and unconscious where he done got the wind knocked out of him from being sacked, then it's 'Aw you got to help out, you've got to chip,"' Portis said. "So I don't think they know what they want me to do."

Portis also denied that his lack of practice time was affecting his performance. He said he had not missed a meeting and attended every practice, even though he was unable to suit up. He noted that his inability to practice wasn't an issue while the team was playing well.

"Outside of Jim Zorn and the coaches on that team and maybe the quarterbacks, I guarantee you I know our system better than anybody else," Portis said. "I guarantee you when we go into blitz pickup, I don't miss my man. So I don't know what it is. If anybody's got a problem with me, they need to talk to me. I don't know what's going on."

Portis was almost derisive when asked if teams have figured out how to defend Zorn's offense after the team's hot start.

"We got a genius for a head coach, I don't know, so I'm sure he's on top of things," Portis said. "He's got everything figured out. All I can do is when he calls the plays is to try and execute to the best of my ability."

Portis also implied that Zorn's offense might be too complex.

"We got 25 protections, so maybe that's why the o-line's sometime confused," Portis said. "Maybe that's why I don't understand what's going on -- since I don't understand what's going on."

Zorn appeared on the radio station later in the answer and responded to some of Portis' remarks.

"He's a big part of our offense, and he's sitting on the bench," Zorn said. "He's going to feel like he's benched. I don't blame him for that. ... He's an every-down back, that's the way he sees himself and that's the way we see him. He needs to be on the field. I felt the same way when I played."

Zorn said he anticipated Portis practicing this week and playing as an every-down back in the upcoming game against the Cincinnati Bengals.

That was about the only point on which he and his disgruntled player agreed.

"I'm totally healthy after not playing against Baltimore," Portis said. "The thing about it, I'll be at practice tomorrow."

Swanny32 10-12-2008 05:45 PM

Afternoon lads, what's the party in London called for the Superbowl? I'm sure it was Bowlfest or something like that, want to try and get some tickets for it.

pauldrulez 10-12-2008 06:41 PM

Superbash, but I cant find anywhere for tickets

pauldrulez 10-12-2008 07:47 PM

Sad news from Foxboro

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The already memorable 2008 football season will now be even more memorable for Patriots quarterback Matt Cassel, whose father has died, according to the Boston Herald.

The Patriots are spending the week on the West Coast between games at Seattle and Oakland; Cassel, a native of Northridge, California, played college football at USC and his father was a Hollywood script writer.

It’s unknown whether Greg Cassel had been ill, or whether his passing occurred suddenly.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to Matt and his family
Not nice to lose anyone at this time of the year and being on the other side of the country probably doesn't help how he is feeling. He is currently in Foxboro but will be going back to Santa Clara and the training centre tomorrow.

I know its not on the level of Matt Bryant and his son, but its sad nonetheless.

And its a slow NFL news day as well.

RDSdaEAGLE 10-12-2008 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
He got lots of stick for not signing with the Chargers, but in the end it has worked out well for both teams.

I think that might have been the first draft I saw live. I particularly remember that the analysts were starting to think a San Diego-New York trade might not happen. I'm pretty sure the trade was only announced just before the fifth pick (San Diego drafted first, the Giants drafted fifth).

Ultimately I think the trade worked pretty well for both teams. I'm pretty sure that San Diego got Merriman out of the trade, while the Giants got a QB who won them the Super Bowl. At the time though the general consensus was that the Chargers got the better deal.


Giants received
  • Rights to 2004 1st Overall Pick, Eli Manning.
Chargers received
  • Rights to 2004 4th Overall Pick, Philip Rivers.
  • 2005 1st Round Draft Pick - Used to draft and sign Linebacker Shawne Merriman.
  • 2004 3rd Round Draft Pick - Used to draft and sign Kicker Nate Kaeding.
  • 2005 5th Round Draft Pick - Traded to Tampa Bay Buccaneers for Left Tackle Roman Oben.
There's a whole Wikipedia page about it :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers-Manning_trade

saxoneagle 10-12-2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RDSdaEAGLE
Giants received
  • Rights to 2004 1st Overall Pick, Eli Manning.
Chargers received
  • Rights to 2004 4th Overall Pick, Philip Rivers.
  • 2005 1st Round Draft Pick - Used to draft and sign Linebacker Shawne Merriman.
  • 2004 3rd Round Draft Pick - Used to draft and sign Kicker Nate Kaeding.
  • 2005 5th Round Draft Pick - Traded to Tampa Bay Buccaneers for Left Tackle Roman Oben.
There's a whole Wikipedia page about it :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers-Manning_trade

I posted that about 3 pages back, Rob ;)

pauldrulez 10-12-2008 08:14 PM

I think I know who got the better deal now...

3 top players vs one


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