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Latvian Eagle 09-12-2008 09:11 PM

This is why I love this thread... :D I learn so much! :lux:

Latvian Eagle 09-12-2008 09:16 PM

Oh yes that was the other thing I wanted to know...

How do they work out the passer rating?

saxoneagle 09-12-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle
Oh yes that was the other thing I wanted to know...

How do they work out the passer rating?

Not a clue :D

pauldrulez 09-12-2008 09:40 PM

God knows.

All I know is that Bradys rating was lower than Mannings in their respective record seasons. Let me get the statistics from the 48/49/50 TD seasons and compare :)

Marino - 362-564, 5084yds, 48TD-17INT 108.9 rating

Manning - 336-497, 67.7%, 4557yds, 9.2YPA, 49TD-10INT, 121.0 rating

Brady - 398-578, 68.9%, 4806yds, 8.3YPA, 50TD-8INT 117.2 rating

Latvian Eagle 09-12-2008 09:59 PM

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Anyone like the Carolina Panthers Wallpaper I've just spent about an hour putting together? :lux: I did it once then f***ed it up so had to do it again! :p

saxoneagle 09-12-2008 10:00 PM

Nope, I hate it ;) :p

:D

pauldrulez 09-12-2008 10:02 PM

LMAO :D

I like it, very good.

I would make one, but last time I did, it went seriously wrong when I finished it off and refused to save

Latvian Eagle 09-12-2008 10:05 PM

Going straight on my computer at Work tomorrow! :D Everyone I work with is so boring... "Ah NFL is rubbish, it takes ages and always stop start"... Losers! :veryangry

RDSdaEAGLE 09-12-2008 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle
Going straight on my computer at Work tomorrow! :D Everyone I work with is so boring... "Ah NFL is rubbish, it takes ages and always stop start"... Losers! :veryangry

They need to take some nachos, a cold beer, and chill :D

Latvian Eagle 09-12-2008 10:12 PM

Sounds like the dream!!!

pauldrulez 09-12-2008 11:07 PM

Why no mention of this? :o

Quote:

Morten Andersen, the NFL's all-time leading scorer, has retired at the age of 48 because of knee problems.

The Danish kicker, who scored 2,544 points in a 25-year career, played for Atlanta in the past two seasons but was unable to get a contract this year.

He said: "I can no longer can train in an optimal way because of my knees, so I am retiring."

Andersen described reaching the 1999 Super Bowl with the Falcons as "the pinnacle of my career".

Atlanta advanced to their only NFL finale when Andersen's 38-yard field goal beat the Minnesota Vikings in the NFC title game, but they lost the Super Bowl to Denver.

Andersen became the leading scorer in NFL history on 17 December 2006, when he kicked the ball through the uprights during the Falcons' 38-28 loss to the Dallas Cowboys.

He kicked for five NFL teams in 25 years, including 13 seasons for New Orleans, eight for the Falcons, two for Kansas City and one season each with the New York Giants and the Vikings.

A Copenhagen native, Andersen went to the United States in 1977 as an exchange student and played college football for Michigan State.

The second-placed player on the NFL's points leaders' list is South African-born kicker Gary Anderson, with 2,434. He retired in 2004.

Strathclyde Eagle 10-12-2008 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle
Oh yes that was the other thing I wanted to know...

How do they work out the passer rating?

Touchdown magazine used to publish that in every issue. I guess they got asked it a lot.

Will try and find a link in the morning (and good point re Morten Andersen, Paul).

saxoneagle 10-12-2008 01:28 AM

Just type "passer rating" into Google and I get quite a few good links.

saxoneagle 10-12-2008 01:29 AM

Current Passer Rating System:
Source:
2006 National Football League Record & Fact Book The NFL rates its passers for statistical purposes against a fixed performance standard based on statistical achievements of all qualified pro passers since 1960. The current system replaced one that rated passers in relation to their position in a total group based on various criteria. The current system, which was adopted in 1973, removes inequities that existed in the former method and, at the same time, provides a means of comparing passing performances from one season to the next.

It is important to remember that the system is used to rate passers, not quarterbacks. Statistics do not reflect leadership, play-calling, and other intangible factors that go into making a successful professional quarterback. Four categories are used as a basis for compiling a rating:
http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif Percentage of completions per attempt
http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif Average yards gained per attempt
http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif Percentage of touchdown passes per attempt
http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif Percentage of interceptions per attempt
The average standard is 1.000. The bottom is .000. To earn a 2.000 rating, a passer must perform at exceptional levels, i.e., 70 percent in completions, 10 percent in touchdowns, 1.5 percent in interceptions, and 11 yards average gain per pass attempt. The maximum a passer can receive in any category is 2.375.

For example, to gain a 2.375 in completion percentage, a passer would have to complete 77.5 percent of his passes. The NFL record is 70.55 by Ken Anderson (Cincinnati, 1982). To earn a 2.375 in percentage of touchdowns, a passer would have to achieve a percentage of 11.9. The record is 13.9 by Sid Luckman (Chicago, 1943). To gain 2.375 in percentage of interceptions, a passer would have to go the entire season without an interception. The 2.375 figure in average yards is 12.50, compared with the NFL record of 11.17 by Tommy O'Connell (Cleveland, 1957).

In order to make the rating more understandable, the point rating is then converted into a scale of 100, with 158.3 being the highest rating a passer can achieve. In cases where statistical performance has been superior, it is possible for a passer to surpass a 100 rating. For example, take Steve Young's record-setting season in 1994 when he completed 324 of 461 passes for 3,969 yards, 35 touchdowns, and 10 interceptions.

The four calculations would be:

http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif Percentage of Completions-324 of 461 is 70.28 percent. Subtract 30 from the completion percentage (40.28) and multiply the result by 0.05. The result is a point rating of 2.014.
Note: If the result is less than zero (Comp. Pct. less than 30.0), award zero points. If the results are greater than 2.375 (Comp. Pct. greater than 77.5), award 2.375.

http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif Average Yards Gained Per Attempt-3,969 yards divided by 461 attempts is 8.61. Subtract three yards from yards-per-attempt (5.61) and multiply the result by 0.25. The result is 1.403.
Note: If the result is less than zero (yards per attempt less than 3.0), award zero points. If the result is greater than 2.375 (yards per attempt greater than 12.5), award 2.375 points.

http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif Percentage of Touchdown Passes-35 touchdowns in 461 attempts is 7.59 percent. Multiply the touchdown percentage by 0.2. The result is 1.518.
Note: If the result is greater than 2.375 (touchdown percentage greater than 11.875), award 2.375.

http://www.profootballhof.com/images/news-bullet.gif Percentage of Interceptions-10 interceptions in 461 attempts is 2.17 percent. Multiply the interception percentage by 0.25 (0.542) and subtract the number from 2.375. The result is 1.833.
Note: If the result is less than zero (interception percentage greater than 9.5), award zero points.

The sum of the four steps is (2.014 + 1.403 + 1.518 + 1.833) 6.768. The sum is then divided by six (1.128) and multiplied by 100. In this case, the result is 112.8. This same formula can be used to determine a passer rating for any player who attempts at least one pass.

saxoneagle 10-12-2008 01:30 AM

Good luck with that :p

elliott 10-12-2008 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
they will do plays like that and other risky things as it doesn't affect their season as if they win, they win, if they lose, they get a better draft pick. And the Dolphins have to take advantage of the risks that may be taken.

Whilst I too don't agree with Paul's opinion of the KC 2pt, this statement is very correct.

elliott 10-12-2008 01:36 AM

It's also important to remember that an NFL QB rating is capped at something like 136, whereas an NCAA QB rating is limitless. Someone like Harrell will have games of 400 odd...

saxoneagle 10-12-2008 01:54 AM

Best in NFL is 158.3

Extracted from Wiki (again, sorry):

The NCAA passer rating has an upper limit of 1,261.6 and a lower limit of -731.6 (Due to 100% Completion). The upper limit value results if every pass thrown is a 99-yard touchdown and the lower limit if every pass is thrown for a 99-yard loss. A passer who throws only interceptions will have a -200 rating.

NFL

Steve Young currently holds the NFL record for the highest career passer rating for any player with at least 1500 attempts with a mark of 96.8, although Tony Romo is on pace to break it. The highest passer rating for a complete season is 121.1 set by Peyton Manning in 2004. Also in 2004, rookie Ben Roethlisberger posted a mark of 98.1, setting a new record for first-year passers. There have been 34 quarterbacks to complete a game with a perfect passer rating of 158.3 (and only 4 to have accomplished this more than once), the most recent being Kurt Warner in 2008.

NCAA

In NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision (formerly division I-A), the career record for passing efficiency is held by Ryan Dinwiddie of Boise State, who had a career mark of 168.9 between 2000 and 2003. The single-season record belongs to Colt Brennan of Hawaii, who amassed a passer rating of 186.0 over the 2006 season, while the freshman record belongs to Michael Vick of Virginia Tech, whose rating during the 1999 season was 180.4.

Strathclyde Eagle 10-12-2008 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by saxoneagle
Best in NFL is 158.3

Extracted from Wiki (again, sorry):

The NCAA passer rating has an upper limit of 1,261.6 and a lower limit of -731.6 (Due to 100% Completion).

-731.6, ROFL. Was that last edited by Charlie Weis?

Strathclyde Eagle 10-12-2008 01:05 PM

Interesting points from Porter regarding the Plaxico Burress situation:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/s...=ESPNHeadlines

Probably more calm and reasoned than Porter's detractors would like to read. I'm not a fan of guns in the slightest but I can see why what he says makes sense.

Interesting related story to regarding NFL player safety:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3711336


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