Do you really want them to have a sgner for every program that they produce? For 80,000 sign language users?

That's a good idea, I'm only just into series 2 and half the time I haven't got a clue what they're saying. Still brilliant though.

It really helps, especially with the drug gang dialogue.

And even then I couldn't always follow what they were talking about.

Watched all four series of The Agency recently with subtitles - hadn't appreciated how much one has to focus on the screen, it quite disturbed my usual practice of flitting between reading something and watching television can sometimes irritate Mrs Richard.

Rather insensitively I hadn't appreciated how much more effort deaf people have to make when watching television. But then, they don't have to listen to inane football commentators ...

Not really an annoyance more a wtf but..... faceachers who won't take the vaccine but are over the moon that McDonald's have opened in our town and are queuing to shove that shit down their necks.

This guy has some time on his hands

https://i.ibb.co/94rFZGR/19-A2484-B-...2-F5021649.gif

I’ve noticed the queues at our McDonald’s have been unreal over the last few months. I’m not exaggerating when I say there are regular queues of 50 + cars in the drive through. That’s got to be a minimum 30-45 min wait. I’m not sure I’d sit in my car for 45 mins for a steak dinner let alone a floppy piece of rubber in a stale bun and some cold chips.

James Corden .

Oprah Winfrey's warm up man.

I believe the technical term is fluffer

:supergrin:

Blessed, I can't stand it.

I had such a good shit this morning I felt blessed. **** off, your attempt at the deification of your defication means is pathetic.

Smug narcissm dressed up in faux christian humbleness, the only thing worse is truly blessed. As if you can be falsely blessed.

The only way I could be blessed is if I never hear the ******* word again

The fact that Chiles is tupping Guardian editor-in-chief Katharine Viner is a mere coincidence, I’m sure.

Ahhhhh that answers a lot. She must be a munter to have ended up with him?

I used to think they were shouting ‘be bo’ till I turned the subtitle and learnt they were shouting ‘5 O’

Subtitles is the way forward

Banks shutting at 2pm.because of covid, dont see the connection.

Anything other than a standard, traditional hot cross bun. Which toaster-unfriendly ingredient are they going to try and stuff in next?

There has been recent research showing that watching TV with subtitles on is great for children's literacy.

This is given as a reason why lots of Europeans speak decent English. They have lots of TV in English and sub titled in their language. This was they're reading it and hearing a translation at the same time.

The other side though is we have watched lots of foreign series the last year. Have to keep remembering that you can't rely on just listening to the dialogue but have to read the subtitles. 🙄

Marks are doing a cheese and Marmite variety. I like both cheese and Marmite, but this tastes foul.

I love the Belgian chocolate and salted caramel ones though.

“ a poste” I’ve watched wayyyy to much Gomorrah

I believe the same was said about catchy pop chart tunes sung in English

I appreciate this may well be a setting that I need to change, but for example, if I search for someone's name in Google and it links me to Facebook, and I click on that link taking me into Facebook, there is no option go back to the previous page, i.e. the Google search page.

It locks me into Facebook. :wallbash:

Listening to radio "broadcasters" who have no training. Read the text before you start a broadcast. Don't just take a gulp of breath and go until you run out at an inappropriate time mid sentence.

When on your Google results 'right click' on your chosen result and choose 'Open in new tab' and your Google results are saved in the original tab.

Just looked her up. An uncanny resemblance to Katie Hopkins IMO.

So it's a "no" from me.

When I play a song on youtube it automatically moves to The Cure's Pictures of You 12" version. I've got absolutely no idea where that's come from. I ******* loathe that song now.

Session times in restaurants.

Poor subtitles annoy me, either they disappear into the background because they are produced in white instead of yellow, or they editorialise the scene and mismatch the nuances of what's on screen. Some shows are terrible some are really good.

Watching certain scenes and realise something pretty major has been lost in translation along the line.

Good tip. Thanks.

(Still annoyed at Facebook though! But that's a given I guess)

Yeah **** that. Pubs up here are reserving tables. " You can sit there till 6.30 then it's reserved " Blerks to that.

Young bloke has just opened a wine bar round the corner from me. 3 good beers and obvious decent wine for Mrs KM.

Delivery drivers thinking the only way to communicate is by their horn.
Stuck behind gates, ragging around in first gear no respect for the roads.
The new amazon generation

I recommend it for my students, and for my Spanish.

It gets throught the dense skull eventually. Reaping the benefits after near on 20 years.

I am anti all this reservation nonsense in pub and bars. I get it for a special meal in a restaurant. But in a regular pub, it is just shite. Squuezed in a corner somewhere while a table remains empty for 30 minutes. Then a bunch of late, smug bastards turn up to take it.

I have taken to mentioning it to bar staff that I woun't be returning as long as they keep the policy going.

Busy pub, get there early.

I am not one for queueing outside places, pubs and the like, either. That's just a waste of valuable drinking time.

I might have made an exception fro the right kind of club, but that is about it.

I don't think I will ever be the kind that books months in advance for some over fancy restaurant - especially one that is going to charge me 500 notes (for two) for the privilege of that wait.

Queuing for 5 hours for a covid test because I went to Brisbane for 2 days.

Suprised Anna let you in. Queensland for Queenslanders and all that bollox.:D

Does this explain it?
https://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2021/...crime-news-uk/

When you don't get a sauce packet open on the first try. You try each top corner, then each side corner, then go around all eight corners again, with no luck. Then you move on to every other packet with exactly the same level of non-success, until you reach the final remaining packet, and use scissors (if available) just to make sure.

If only you'd admitted to yourself at the beginning that you knew your fingers were too greasy to open it in the first place.

And most of the sauce ends up on your fingers, your shirt, your trousers and the floor.... never the plate or food.

Let's not forget the infamous 'watermelon balls squirt' when you don't open the packet quite enough, squeeze it too much, and the sauce ejaculates in one thunderous crescendo.

Things that annoy you
 

Soy sauce is tops for doing that...

Although those little milk things are my nemesis.

I have just received an email form someone called Natalie, and she helpfully tells me that in replying to her...

My work is currently ‘encouraging’ this pronoun shit on email signatures :veryangry

Are you allowed to invent your own pronouns and insist that everyone else use them instead of the real ones? If everyone had their own set of pronouns, well, they wouldn't be pronouns any more.

Perhaps I could even invent my own grammatical cases and require my pronouns to be declined according to them. And tell everyone what prepositions govern which.

WTF?!

And are your people engaging with it?

So can we call you ****ferret then?

my company is too, and yes people are voluntarily engaging with it. I have it in my email signature, don't see what the problem is.

The problem is seeing problems where none exist. I have sometimes mistaken someone's gender over the years (I thought Les Butler was a beautiful woman until I met him) and it was really easy to sort it out without all of this linguistic nonsense, which if anything highlights gender wars.

I'm sure thats still the case. The pronouns thing is supposed to be an expression of support rather than any kind of instruction/label. I don't mind making a small gesture like that if it makes any trans colleagues or clients feel more supported.

Apologies for the source, but this article sums up how I feel about the "T" issue: https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/1...l-of-stonewall

Yep - I really can't see why it would bother anyone.

Sadly, some are and it seems to be gathering momentum. I’m currently doing my best to ignore it.

Without wishing to derail the thread - i don’t like ‘compelled speech’ which is exactly what the use of preferred nouns is all about. It is trying force others to validate your beliefs.

I'm sure I could research/Google it, but can you give an example of what you have put in your email signature?

something like this:

Jimmy Johnson
Head of Clever Activity
Him/his
***
Bilbo and sons London


(not my real details)

I’m so old I don’t know what the hell you are talking about.

Im glad you posted that as I haven’t a clue either him/his? Me/mine? You/yours?

It's people giving you third person pronouns so you can email back to them in the third person.

I wanted **** on mine but apparently it's not allowed

But why?
Bull/Bullocks ?

Me neither, hence me asking the question above.

My wife's niece has a son (formally a daughter) who has a trans friend they refer to as "they". It can make a real mess of the English language when you get into present and past tense!

You can’t have they that’s plural. It’s an interesting one though I can’t think of a suitable word without sounding pretty phobic. Maybe a whole new word has to be created

Teacher wife of a mate in NJ had some training on this yesterday. Amongst the plethora of identifiers (e.g. heterosexual, lesbian, transgender etc) was ally. Ally?? WTF is that?

There's nothing wrong with "they" as a singular generic pronoun (in my o, of course).

Including ones preferred pronoun on an email signature is however the equivalent of listing "hobbies" on a CV and anyone who does such a thing should be shot like a lame greyhound.

I read this Wikipedia entry for Ally, and I'm still not 100% I understand it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_ally

A few languages actually use third person verbs with nouns as second person pronouns - Spanish usted, of course. Sometimes the third person pronoun gets adopted as the second person as well by that route. The second person polite form in German is the same as the third person plural, for instance, with the proviso that you capitalise it. Cf. polite English usage in say an upmarket tailor's: "Which side does Sir dress?" (which in modern Glaswegian translates as: "Wheear d'ye keep yer tadger?")

Anyway, does all this mean I can get upset if someone refers to me as "they"?

Yeah, you leave school at 16 with an English CSE Grade F, and you think, thank fxck I don't have to worry about pro-nouns, adverbs and colons anymore. Then you get older and some doctor who's not even an English teacher wants to check your colon. Then you find that some tranny wants to beat the shite out of you because you put a hyphen in the wrong part of the adjective used to describe the said person, persons, he-she them -they- it- that. What-feckin ever confused:

Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third

I give up I really do. Live and let live, it’s all personal choice but stop trying to make people like me the bad guys all the time. I honestly feel as though I have to tip toe all the time for fear of offending someone.

That is practically incomprehensible.

If people want to re-engineer the grammar of English to make it more inclusive, they should get a proper linguist to do it. Not someone who writes shite like "Their group maintained an apologist standpoint, where their end goal was living in peaceful coexistence with the oppressor. This assimilationist perspective tended to attract more cis, white queers in the movement who had the luxury of being able to blend in, as opposed to the liberationists, who seemed to be drawing in those more marginalized (queer/trans people of color)."

I'm all for supporting diversity, but I've read that slowly several times and I haven't got a clue what it's supposed to mean.

Maybe Ally Brown. Covers the colour option as well.

A lot of it is a generational thing. I know at my daughter's college it is a normal thing to establish how some one would like to be addressed. Not a difficult thing to get your head around. If you know you're talking to/addressing a male you won't normally use female forms and vice versa. When I've talked to my daughter about this as well as not offending someone by a term they don't identify with there is a belief that the more neutral terms are used the less chance that preconceived ideas about others will form.
Let's face it most on here use a pseudonym so would I be safer addressing any of you as you/they rather than him /her?

People have frequently (blame Greta) assumed that I am female ; why on earth should I be offended? If people don't mean to be rude, only a bounder takes offence.

True, as you could be Paul in Morden OR Pauline Morden and left the E off....

That's better than a F off 😀

(I agree with your post, its not a difficult thing for people to do)

Just on this one, if I'm talking to someone I'd use "you" not he/him/she/her. Reps AJ doesn't talk to people in the third person.

You can refer to me as"My Lord", "Sir" or "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Maidstoned"

Whatever happened to 'her indoors'?

Under the patio.

....is the right answer.
If you're waiting for the hormones to kick in or you haven't had your todger chopped off yet it's not unreasonable for someone to make an honest mistake.
That said it's a bit twuntish in my book to insist on your opinion of someone's gender if they've pointed out their preference. Live and let live.

Is it because you’re always right? :p

Is also right.

I suspect it would be offensive to just call them 'IT', although it makes more sense than they.

:lux::lux:

I’m glad it wasn’t just me that struggled with the entry.

Are you on the right thread?

You must spread... etc.

Havent we just all let this go too far? Parents letting 6/7 years decide their gender, people wanting to identfy as a furry? And what the hell is an Ally anyway?
I know I am old and that is part of it but until you are a suitable age ie 16 you should remain as a boy or a girl. Letting kids have operations and hormone replace drugs before that just seems wrong.

Please feel to address me as a Human being. I think that covers everything.

Seeing pictures of a local park absolutely covered in litter because the lazy c*nts who brought it with them can't be bothered to take it home with them again

That Brighton bloke scoring for Poland tonight. I’d actually never heard of him until he scored.

I doubt that.

Ridiculous requests for donations at work that you feel you have to contribute to so as to save you being labelled a heartless bastard.

Two days ago; 'xxxxx Father-in-law has died we are going to buy her flowers if you want contribute'

Didn't you know? He's the Polish Levandow... oh, hang on ...

Whilst driving needy people who expect me to wave every time every time they give a small courtesy, waving 10 hours a day will do nothing for my wrists that are needed for more important things

Drivers who wave for you to come out on roundabouts when they have the right of way.

Also drivers who right turn across you instead of letting you out first from side road junction. Absolute wank wipes.

When someone I worked with was leaving a 10p contribution was proferred by his colleague.

Drivers who drive slowly actively looking for pedestrians so that they can stop and let them cross.