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TopKnot 11-10-2015 11:43 PM

Chris Evans. Has everyone forgotten what an annoying dick he is?

WLYWLYAWYPWF 12-10-2015 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 12619404)
What would be interesting to know, is whether the purchasing restrictions have made any reduction to the number deaths? They've been in place for a few years.

As the other poster said, if you're determined you can just go in different shops.

Exactly. Unless they are trying to spread the profits made from spikes in sales due to suicide it's a pointless restriction.

mroakley9 12-10-2015 09:30 AM

'Things that...' threads. Except this one of course.

mickiet09 12-10-2015 09:34 AM

One department at work who are a useless bunch c*nts but the management think the sun shines out of their arses and the rest of us can f*ck off. I find that quite annoying.

Stonewall 12-10-2015 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mickiet09 (Post 12619561)
One department at work who are a useless bunch c*nts but the management think the sun shines out of their arses and the rest of us can f*ck off. I find that quite annoying.

Similar situation at my place of work, only its certain managers who are useless. And one or two workers who crawl up thier asses!

Selhurst Celtic 12-10-2015 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TopKnot (Post 12619405)
Chris Evans. Has everyone forgotten what an annoying dick he is?

No. I despise him.

Isle of Wight 12-10-2015 02:24 PM

Forgetting my Bags for Life and having to buy more of the bloody things. Why can't they just do paper bags?

Oddjob 12-10-2015 02:39 PM

Chop'd

Its just overpriced salad, one of the most simple meals to make yet people queue round the block for it.

swissroll 12-10-2015 03:34 PM

Paying more UK corporation tax last year than Facebook.

Reps AJ 12-10-2015 03:52 PM

Money grabbing, tax dodging IT contractors

the drexciyan 12-10-2015 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reps AJ (Post 12619909)
Money grabbing, tax dodging IT contractors

Seems like every day now someone resigns from work, then are back in the next day as JBloggs Consulting, doing the same stuff but for 3 times the rate.

palace nutter 12-10-2015 08:08 PM

Being left with the heel from a loaf of bread. :hmph:

PIE "N" MASH 12-10-2015 08:15 PM

Getting the bug doing the rounds,felt like shit for the past 3 days.

Mat ov CPFC 12-10-2015 08:19 PM

Being abroad, forgetting to bring proper tea-bags and having to not only pay an extortionate price for some ghastly foreign equivalent but find them to be piss weak along with having string attached. Why on earth do they do that ?

Worksop Palace 12-10-2015 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palace nutter (Post 12620186)
Being left with the heel from a loaf of bread. :hmph:

Presume that means crust ?

If so, best bit IMO

evvo111 12-10-2015 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palace nutter (Post 12620186)
Being left with the heel from a loaf of bread. :hmph:

http://portlandfoodanddrink.com/wp-c...arts-bread.jpg

http://portlandfoodanddrink.com/10438/ I think you could make good toest from these.

FORZA SELHURST 12-10-2015 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mat ov CPFC (Post 12620196)
Being abroad, forgetting to bring proper tea-bags and having to not only pay an extortionate price for some ghastly foreign equivalent but find them to be piss weak along with having string attached. Why on earth do they do that ?

Are you sure you didn't get a pack of tampons by mistake?

But yes tea in france for example is poor and what's with drinking it out of a bowl?

Reps AJ 13-10-2015 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the drexciyan (Post 12620068)
Seems like every day now someone resigns from work, then are back in the next day as JBloggs Consulting, doing the same stuff but for 3 times the rate.

"He just needs to work it so he doesn't fall under IR35"

No, pay your ******* tax like the rest of us you bastard

Dorking .Eagle 13-10-2015 11:18 AM

When its really busy in a fast food restaurant, and people sit at tables despite their friends/family not having got their food/drink yet. But you've got yours already and there's nowhere to sit because of all the little bastards hogging empty tables.

Leaves you walking round and round with a tray of food but nowhere to sit.

Little Fozzie 13-10-2015 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorking .Eagle (Post 12620665)
When its really busy in a fast food restaurant, and people sit at tables despite their friends/family not having got their food/drink yet. But you've got yours already and there's nowhere to sit because of all the little bastards hogging empty tables.

Leaves you walking round and round with a tray of food but nowhere to sit.

I always say I'm taking away in case this happens

ChiswickEagle 13-10-2015 02:58 PM

Having poxy salad at lunch. Or at all.

Ghosteagle 13-10-2015 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiswickEagle (Post 12620873)
Having poxy salad at lunch. Or at all.

Seconded. Horrible stuff.

elgin eagle 13-10-2015 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghosteagle (Post 12620889)
Seconded. Horrible stuff.

Its ok if you sprinkle enough feta cheese and cucumber in there i've found. Otherwise its rabbit food.

palace nutter 13-10-2015 06:52 PM

Adrian Durham - it's twice as annoying because if I log into Twitter and keep calling him a tosser it only gives him what he wants. Tosser.

Chocky 13-10-2015 08:16 PM

The main bouncer 'Steve Wilkos' on Jerry Springer now having his own exactly the same show. Not really annoying but f*ck off you stupid c*nt.

EastbourneEagle 13-10-2015 08:20 PM

So, had an idiot hit my car on a roundabout today when it was my right of way. Wouldn't give me his name as he said he couldn't speak English. Went to the Police station to report it who told me to call 101 as they can't take reports there. Got home, called 101, who told me they couldn't take any details and I would have to go to the Police station. Told him I already had and they told me to call. He said that was wrong. Called the insurance company, they can't log anything without a crime reference. Explained it all to him, and then he said 101 should have made me an appointment at Caterham police station so I could give them all the details. FFS, does nobody know what the hell they are doing??

Selhurst Celtic 13-10-2015 08:51 PM

People who type 'so' at the start of a post.

Vintage Eagle 13-10-2015 09:40 PM

Fans who leave early when their team is being beaten
Fans who cry when their team is relegated
Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea supporters who don't consider your opinion because you are Palace and in turn coulnd't tell you how to get to their own ground.
Downtown Abbey
Arctic bloody Monkeys
IKEA
Garden Centres
Barbers who want to chat (you don't care where I'm going on holiday)
Costa
School kids who travel one stop on the bus just because they can
Some 'expert' on to telling me that something is exactly four million years old - oh really.
TVs obsession with zombies
Gregg Wallace (for goodness sake)
Majority of curry houses now just taking the piss

cappuccinoeagle 13-10-2015 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintage Eagle (Post 12621341)
Fans who leave early when their team is being beaten
Fans who cry when their team is relegated
Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea supporters who don't consider your opinion because you are Palace and in turn coulnd't tell you how to get to their own ground.
Downtown Abbey
Arctic bloody Monkeys
IKEA
Garden Centres
Barbers who want to chat (you don't care where I'm going on holiday)
Costa
School kids who travel one stop on the bus just because they can
Some 'expert' on to telling me that something is exactly four million years old - oh really.
TVs obsession with zombies
Gregg Wallace (for goodness sake)
Majority of curry houses now just taking the piss

Diego - annoying Coffee - lovely

WLYWLYAWYPWF 13-10-2015 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EastbourneEagle (Post 12621202)
So, had an idiot hit my car on a roundabout today when it was my right of way. Wouldn't give me his name as he said he couldn't speak English. Went to the Police station to report it who told me to call 101 as they can't take reports there. Got home, called 101, who told me they couldn't take any details and I would have to go to the Police station. Told him I already had and they told me to call. He said that was wrong. Called the insurance company, they can't log anything without a crime reference. Explained it all to him, and then he said 101 should have made me an appointment at Caterham police station so I could give them all the details. FFS, does nobody know what the hell they are doing??

As someone who has been f*cked over in this sort of situation you should have called the Police to the scene or got Vinny Jones on yer mans head in the door until he gave you his details.

Salad_Burnet 13-10-2015 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintage Eagle (Post 12621341)
Fans who leave early when their team is being beaten
Indifferent
Fans who cry when their team is relegated
What's wrong with that?
Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea supporters who don't consider your opinion because you are Palace and in turn coulnd't tell you how to get to their own ground.
Indifferent. They wouldn't even know I was a Palace fan, especially the Arsenal and Tottenham ones
Downtown Abbey
Agree; but then, ITV has never been good at social class
Arctic bloody Monkeys
Disagree/ hardly topical
IKEA
Indifferent
Garden Centres
Love them, especially the ones that sell brewing kits
Barbers who want to chat (you don't care where I'm going on holiday)
Agree
Costa
Love it
School kids who travel one stop on the bus just because they can
Agree
Some 'expert' on to telling me that something is exactly four million years old - oh really.
Indifferent
TVs obsession with zombies
Indifferent
Gregg Wallace (for goodness sake)
I don't like estuary english being spoken on TV generally
Majority of curry houses now just taking the piss
Agree

.

ET1 13-10-2015 11:54 PM

BBC + mainstream media spunking all over Welsh football team instead of focusing on England's 100% record in qualifying.

mroakley9 14-10-2015 10:25 AM

Halloween

Payroll Legend 14-10-2015 03:08 PM

The term "national treasure".

Do **** off

Ghosteagle 14-10-2015 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mroakley9 (Post 12621697)
Halloween

Love Halloween but hate how england does it sooo crap.

EagleSE24 14-10-2015 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payroll Legend (Post 12622038)
The term "national treasure".

Do **** off

It's a nice way of saying they're old and no longer good at their job. See Bruce Forsyth.

SA Eagle 14-10-2015 03:19 PM

Estate Agents - *****

Chocky 14-10-2015 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghosteagle (Post 12622043)
Love Halloween but hate how england does it sooo crap.

You would do being a ghost. Putting the willies up everyone.

Worksop Palace 14-10-2015 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EastbourneEagle (Post 12621202)
So, had an idiot hit my car on a roundabout today when it was my right of way. Wouldn't give me his name as he said he couldn't speak English. Went to the Police station to report it who told me to call 101 as they can't take reports there. Got home, called 101, who told me they couldn't take any details and I would have to go to the Police station. Told him I already had and they told me to call. He said that was wrong. Called the insurance company, they can't log anything without a crime reference. Explained it all to him, and then he said 101 should have made me an appointment at Caterham police station so I could give them all the details. FFS, does nobody know what the hell they are doing??

Insurance companies do not need a police crime ref to log a claim. They may need it eventually but not to log the initial claim

BERT'S HEAD 14-10-2015 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Selhurst Celtic (Post 12621251)
People who type 'so' at the start of a post.

And people who reply to a question on radio or tv with that very word.

cappuccinoeagle 14-10-2015 07:17 PM

Train carriages strewn with copies of the poxy Metro

Worksop Palace 14-10-2015 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cappuccinoeagle (Post 12622287)
Train carriages strewn with copies of the poxy Metro

Good grief if you allow things like that to annoy you, you really must want summat to do

Chocky 14-10-2015 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cappuccinoeagle (Post 12622287)
Train carriages strewn with copies of the poxy Metro

Better than being strewn with raas claarts.

WLYWLYAWYPWF 14-10-2015 07:39 PM

C*nting pumpkins stuck at the main entrance of Tesco extra so that every Halloween loving bastard stops in their tracks as they are going in the shop getting in my f*cking way. Whatever stupid prick thought that was a good idea needs a good kicking.

Chocky 14-10-2015 07:42 PM

The C*nting Pumpkins. Good name for a band. Or has that already been done?

Worksop Palace 14-10-2015 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WLYWLYAWYPWF (Post 12622323)
C*nting pumpkins stuck at the main entrance of Tesco extra so that every Halloween loving bastard stops in their tracks as they are going in the shop getting in my f*cking way. Whatever stupid prick thought that was a good idea needs a good kicking.

Presumably the store manager. Who's job it is to ensure he sells the seasonal products that Tesco buyers have got in for half a pence each and knock them out at £3 a shot

EastbourneEagle 14-10-2015 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 12622269)
Insurance companies do not need a police crime ref to log a claim. They may need it eventually but not to log the initial claim

You would have thought so! Been to the Police station, had to wait outside for 35 mins as they were closed for lunch, filled out 8 forms, no reference number. The report has to go to Woking to be processed and won't get a reference number for a while. Been onto insurance company who are still insisting on a reference number, and will only hold the claim for 5 days so I can get the ref number. What's the chance of the Police being in contact within 5 days???? :veryangry

pallet 15-10-2015 08:13 AM

Not having to get up until 7am but being wide awake at 6am.

Far East Eagle 15-10-2015 08:16 AM

The amount of "Things that" threads...

PhuketEagle 15-10-2015 08:18 AM

Female mosquitoes. It's always the women isn't it? Bleeding you dry.....

Worksop Palace 15-10-2015 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EastbourneEagle (Post 12622342)
You would have thought so! Been to the Police station, had to wait outside for 35 mins as they were closed for lunch, filled out 8 forms, no reference number. The report has to go to Woking to be processed and won't get a reference number for a while. Been onto insurance company who are still insisting on a reference number, and will only hold the claim for 5 days so I can get the ref number. What's the chance of the Police being in contact within 5 days???? :veryangry

Closed for lunch. Brilliant :D

viking's no1 15-10-2015 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 12622725)
Closed for lunch. Brilliant :D

The only shop in the village, which sold sandwiches and rolls etc, always closed for lunch between 12.30pm and 2pm. Now been taking over by sensible people so I'm not as angry as before.

Reading that back, maybe I should have started a thread 'Things that did make me angry but are alright now'. Sorry to all.

viking's no1 15-10-2015 10:43 AM

Stupidity.

The wife's car wouldn't start and it was blocking my car on the drive. I had to call the RAC out and told the wife they'd be round soon. She then goes out and takes the fecking keys with her so when the RAC guy turns up I look like a right numpty. How we laughed through my anger only to find she'd left the boot open which was the cause of the catalogue of disasters that's ended up with the car in the garage. FFS.

Yoda 15-10-2015 12:25 PM

Thanks for sharing Viking, your catalogue of woe did make me laugh.

art malice 15-10-2015 09:35 PM

The pint-sized TMS thing, especially the cartoons

WLYWLYAWYPWF 15-10-2015 11:51 PM

Question time. Bullshitters talking total bollocks which if good gets people in the audience doing seal impressions.

CT_Palace 15-10-2015 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WLYWLYAWYPWF (Post 12623644)
Question time. Bullshitters talking total bollocks which if good gets people in the audience doing seal impressions.

sounds like the Houses of Parliament

DocSavage 16-10-2015 05:55 PM

Blue Jeans

Ismale 16-10-2015 06:20 PM

Eric C\/ntona! Page 9 of The Sun today & referred to as 'noted for whimsical musings about seagulls & trawlers' C*nt!

bubbs11 16-10-2015 06:28 PM

During PMQ's: Tory MP's nodding sycophantically whenever Cameron is speaking.

Also stands for the rent-a-crowd politicians have behind them when making a speech in public.

elgin eagle 16-10-2015 09:10 PM

Getting covered in bitumen fixing a flat roof that all the other flat owners are either too lazy, too tight, or don't care because its not their flat underneath, to fix themselves :veryangry

in-exile 16-10-2015 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elgin eagle (Post 12624480)
Getting covered in bitumen fixing a flat roof that all the other flat owners are either too lazy, too tight, or don't care because its not their flat underneath, to fix themselves :veryangry

Which one is it? ;)
http://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/...01cb1d6cc0.jpg

elgin eagle 16-10-2015 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 12624486)

Top left. Thats me crouched over the can :)

Wolfnipplechips 16-10-2015 09:43 PM

Is that Keltic and Exiled looking on from above and not helping?

You don't want to do it like that.......etc.

elgin eagle 16-10-2015 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 12624514)
Is that Keltic and Exiled looking on from above and not helping?

You don't want to do it like that.......etc.

:D

Keltic dresses like that anyway :)

They're from the planning department i reckon.

Nth Kent Eagle 16-10-2015 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elgin eagle (Post 12624480)
Getting covered in bitumen fixing a flat roof that all the other flat owners are either too lazy, too tight, or don't care because its not their flat underneath, to fix themselves :veryangry

I managed our shed roof. That is one horrid job.

Nth Kent Eagle 16-10-2015 10:12 PM

in - exile you should try reading Hernando de soto's book on how to solve poverty in the developing world. Basically you give the property rights to those in the flats and then they can use it as collateral to borrow money and get utility connections. Yet it took 200 pages to say it.

Wolfnipplechips 16-10-2015 10:18 PM

Next door to Elgin and one story down look like they've got a cracking back garden.

elgin eagle 16-10-2015 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 12624539)
Next door to Elgin and one story down look like they've got a cracking back garden.

Bit of decking and some artificial grass by the looks :)

Not as nice as the roof on the first floor though.

Nth kent Eagle - It was a 60 sq metre roof, took all afternoon just to do the cutting in round the water tanks. Got to go back up there tomorrow to do the easy bits.

evvo111 17-10-2015 01:31 AM

The fact that these 2 people breathe the same air as decent people really annoys me

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...ked-Hitler-pic

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...Phillip-Winter

ExiledStirling 18-10-2015 01:16 AM

U2.

Bunch of up themselves, pretentious tossers.

ExiledStirling 18-10-2015 01:17 AM

Myself for liking some U2 tunes

richdeniro 18-10-2015 01:46 AM

Grown adults who use scooters and those Oxboard things in Central London.

Saw a businessman in full suit on a Oxboard going down Victoria Street last week. How hard is it to walk?

dweedman 18-10-2015 02:21 AM

The bizarre overuse of "myself" and "yourself" by candidates on The Apprentice. You don't sound any smarter by responding to "who designed this product?" with "myself and John".

danpalace07 18-10-2015 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richdeniro (Post 12626916)
Grown adults who use scooters and those Oxboard things in Central London.

Saw a businessman in full suit on a Oxboard going down Victoria Street last week. How hard is it to walk?

sackable offence in a just world

in-exile 18-10-2015 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 12624539)
Next door to Elgin and one story down look like they've got a cracking back garden.

http://static.tumblr.com/33f94cfa9ad...kkg8k8gcko.jpg

in-exile 18-10-2015 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nth Kent Eagle (Post 12624537)
in - exile you should try reading Hernando de soto's book on how to solve poverty in the developing world. Basically you give the property rights to those in the flats and then they can use it as collateral to borrow money and get utility connections. Yet it took 200 pages to say it.

So after reading your summing up, I can spare the 200 page read? :)

SA Eagle 18-10-2015 09:56 AM

Virgin TiVo no longer grouping recordings of the same show together.

davech 18-10-2015 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richdeniro (Post 12626916)
Grown adults who use scooters and those Oxboard things in Central London.

Saw a businessman in full suit on a Oxboard going down Victoria Street last week. How hard is it to walk?

I heard a rumour Lord Shoog was going to use them in an episode of The Dipsticks.

art malice 18-10-2015 02:31 PM

Tom Jones

Nth Kent Eagle 18-10-2015 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 12626949)
So after reading your summing up, I can spare the 200 page read? :)

Yes. It was technically clever but the most boring read in a very long time.

Baffled Bob 2 18-10-2015 08:06 PM

Clubs that employ someone to wave a big flag behind the goal when they score.

Joe85 18-10-2015 08:12 PM

The X Factor. You're not "artists" you're imitation singers. It's akin to writing out a Shakespeare play, word for word, and declaring yourself a ******* poet and playwright.

**** off.

JJ 18-10-2015 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe85 (Post 12627939)
The X Factor. You're not "artists" you're imitation singers.

Yep. It's just karaoke on steroids.

Little Fozzie 18-10-2015 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ (Post 12628030)
Yep. It's just karaoke on steroids.

That sounds like fun tbf

WLYWLYAWYPWF 19-10-2015 12:13 AM

TV editors showing arsehole after arsehole in crowds at live sporting occasions. The Rugby World Cup has brought it to a whole new level. Virtually every 90 seconds they're zooming in on some dick and often stay focused on them whilst the play resumes. This is when I without fail shout loudly at the TV.

nicky 19-10-2015 12:33 AM

I wanna almond yorkie.

Nestle *****.

GorBlimey 19-10-2015 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicky (Post 12628211)
I wanna almond yorkie.

Nestle *****.

British choc and sweet companies being taken over by foreign companies.

You just f*ck them up!

CT_Palace 19-10-2015 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GorBlimey (Post 12628247)
British choc and sweet companies being taken over by foreign companies.

You just f*ck them up!

Beware of Cadbury's in the US. Made by Hersheys... to their recipe :veryangry

WLYWLYAWYPWF 19-10-2015 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT_Palace (Post 12628250)
Beware of Cadbury's in the US. Made by Hersheys... to their recipe :veryangry

Hershey Highway. :D

GorBlimey 19-10-2015 03:18 AM

Nestlé and Kraft are the arch criminals involved in making crappy products out of our chocky heritage - and I don't mean the foul mouthed one living in Spain.

CT_Palace 19-10-2015 03:30 AM

Their product is so shit it was being out-sold by proper Cadbury's imports... until Hershey's clamped down and got a ruling banning the sale of Cadbury's in the US not made by Hershey's.
Bastards.

Hibernator 19-10-2015 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT_Palace (Post 12628279)
Their product is so shit it was being out-sold by proper Cadbury's imports... until Hershey's clamped down and got a ruling banning the sale of Cadbury's in the US not made by Hershey's.
Bastards.

Prohibition style smuggling across the Canadian border with Genuine Cadburys dressed up as Hershey Bar crap.
Go get 'em Floyd :hi:

in-exile 19-10-2015 04:33 AM

China

in-exile 19-10-2015 04:36 AM

Barcelona...... City and club!

KYLIE MINEAGLE 19-10-2015 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 12628287)
China

Agree Wedgewood a lot better if one can afford it.

CT_Palace 19-10-2015 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in-exile (Post 12628287)
China

Any particular chum?

Chocky 19-10-2015 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CT_Palace (Post 12628297)
Any particular chum?

Pedegree?

China in your hands?

Tea cups?

Crisis?

Me old?

mushroom 20-10-2015 04:11 PM

The rabble rousing media.

Selhurst Celtic 20-10-2015 04:20 PM

The BBS Cooking recipe thread where everyday normal posters suddenly act like they are auditioning for a Marks & Spencer advert. Frying off this, drizzling that, a splash of this, a shake of that. Pretentious fools, all of them.


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