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west country boy 06-01-2022 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 16193822)
He canít play as a batsman Aki.

The bloke has scored two hundreds in 56 test matches.

Presumably he is a great character (going forward)?

Wolfnipplechips 06-01-2022 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by west country boy (Post 16193824)
Presumably he is a great character (going forward)?

Canít think of any other reason.

Aki Aki Aki 06-01-2022 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 16193822)
He canít play as a batsman Aki.

The bloke has scored two hundreds in 56 test matches.

But do you think his batting may have been hindered due to his keeping ? His batting talent is without question in my opinion, his keeper less so.

stinky 06-01-2022 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16193736)
A Broad-side from Stuart.

'You can dissect loads on this trip, but first-innings runs is where you live in Test cricket. We've failed to deliver that. It doesn't matter what bowlers you play if you're getting bowled out for 140. That might be a bit brutal, but that's the truth in Test cricket'

Hard to disagree.

Completely agree with him

Wolfnipplechips 06-01-2022 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Aki Aki Aki (Post 16193874)
But do you think his batting may have been hindered due to his keeping ? His batting talent is without question in my opinion, his keeper less so.

Heís a magnificent one day player.

I wouldnít let him anywhere near the test side as a batsman.

stinky 06-01-2022 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 16194045)
Heís a magnificent one day player.

I wouldnít let him anywhere near the test side as a batsman.

Yep, agree on both counts.

Latvian Eagle 06-01-2022 04:44 PM

That Extras seemed to have started well for us so far at the crease.

RazorsEdge 06-01-2022 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bones14 (Post 16193808)
I think your bowling has been fairly solid tbf. I think your fielding/catching has been club cricket at best and your batting outside of Joe has been atrocious really. Stuart Broad is correct. If you bat well in the first dig the chances are a worse case scenario of a draw.
Yes you need 20 wickets to win, but you'll never get 20 if there's no pressure on the oppo's batters.

Sweet mother of nectar you are spot on again

The fielding has let the bowlers seriously down and as you said the bowling has been good and Stuart Board who I think reads BBS especially Artís comments said today we shouldnít be thinking of going forward but winning tests. I think him like Bonesy was spot on

Worksop Palace 06-01-2022 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stinky (Post 16194018)
Completely agree with him

What Iíve said all along. If I was a bowler Iíd be going bananas at the batters

Worksop Palace 06-01-2022 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Aki Aki Aki (Post 16193874)
But do you think his batting may have been hindered due to his keeping ? His batting talent is without question in my opinion, his keeper less so.

The only thing hindering Buttler behind the stumps is the fact heís not a very good keeper.

If Foakes doesnít play in the next test series (if fit) I give up.

Olympian2 06-01-2022 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 16194278)
The only thing hindering Buttler behind the stumps is the fact heís not a very good keeper.

If Foakes doesnít play in the next test series (if fit) I give up.

Well.

England play 3 Tests in the WI, with the last day of the 3rd Test scheduled to be 28th March. The IPL starts 2nd April.

I can absolutely see Buttler prioritising (& being allowed to prioritise) the IPL over the Tests. Or maybe playing the 1st/1st & 2nd Test & then being allowed to **** off to the IPL.

I can see Foakes being given the sympathy Test gig with YJB there as a batsman (if he's not also at IPL).

It's so messy.

Olympian2 06-01-2022 07:52 PM

In fact, I can see Buttler retiring from Test cricket after this series or at the end of the (English) summer & just playing ODI/being a T20 whore for the rest of his career. What can he be getting out of playing Test cricket?

Palace Kebab 06-01-2022 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Latvian Eagle (Post 16194061)
That Extras seemed to have started well for us so far at the crease.

Our third highest scorer in 2021, did benefit from being ever present of course

RazorsEdge 06-01-2022 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16194361)
Well.

England play 3 Tests in the WI, with the last day of the 3rd Test scheduled to be 28th March. The IPL starts 2nd April.

I can absolutely see Buttler prioritising (& being allowed to prioritise) the IPL over the Tests. Or maybe playing the 1st/1st & 2nd Test & then being allowed to **** off to the IPL.

I can see Foakes being given the sympathy Test gig with YJB there as a batsman (if he's not also at IPL).

It's so messy.

Cricket does not pay as much and If Butler and Foakes prioritise IPL as it is a big pay day, then I won’t hold that against them as I do not think anyone nowadays, who is a sportspersons play the sport for the love of their country or love of the game, they are there to make money and IPL has been good for cricket in the sense it has made some players millionaires.

As fans all we can ask is they make us proud when they don that whites and represent our country

Wolfnipplechips 06-01-2022 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorsEdge (Post 16194560)
Cricket does not pay as much and If Butler and Foakes prioritise IPL as it is a big pay day, then I wonít hold that against them as I do not think anyone nowadays, who is a sportspersons play the sport for the love of their country or love of the game, they are there to make money and IPL has been good for cricket in the sense it has made some players millionaires.

As fans all we can ask is they make us proud when they don that whites and represent our country

I think both Buttler and Root make over a million a year from their central contracts alone before you factor in endorsements.

Buttler could make a few extra quid doing Teflon ads.

RazorsEdge 06-01-2022 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 16194572)
I think both Buttler and Root make over a million a year from their central contracts alone before you factor in endorsements.

Buttler could make a few extra quid doing Teflon ads.

Well he can do the Butterfinger one too :)


Maiden Eagle 06-01-2022 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorsEdge (Post 16194560)
Cricket does not pay as much and If Butler and Foakes prioritise IPL as it is a big pay day, then I wonít hold that against them as I do not think anyone nowadays, who is a sportspersons play the sport for the love of their country or love of the game, they are there to make money and IPL has been good for cricket in the sense it has made some players millionaires.

As fans all we can ask is they make us proud when they don that whites and represent our country

As Wolfie says, most on Central Contracts get pretty well rewarded. OK, not as much as in the IPL, but if someone is serious about playing Test Cricket IMO, they should NOT prioritise the IPL over 5 day cricket (if there is any clash of dates). End of.

Olympian2 06-01-2022 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Maiden Eagle (Post 16194612)
As Wolfie says, most on Central Contracts get pretty well rewarded. OK, not as much as in the IPL, but if someone is serious about playing Test Cricket IMO, they should NOT prioritise the IPL over 5 day cricket (if there is any clash of dates). End of.

I don’t disagree but the precedent (for prioritising IPL over Tests) has already been made, many times over. Bairstow, Buttler, Woakes, Curran & Ali all missed the 1st Test vs NZ last summer due to the 2021 IPL. And let’s not forget that the 5th Test vs India last summer was cancelled simply because the Indian players didn’t want to jeopardise their 2021 IPL (part 2) places…

Maiden Eagle 06-01-2022 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16194622)
I donít disagree but the precedent (for prioritising IPL over Tests) has already been made, many times over. Bairstow, Buttler, Woakes, Curran & Ali all missed the 1st Test vs NZ last summer due to the 2021 IPL. And letís not forget that the 5th Test vs India last summer was cancelled simply because the Indian players didnít want to jeopardise their 2021 IPL (part 2) placesÖ

I know many love the IPL but the above makes my blood boil, TBH.

I would love the ECB to have the balls to say to the players 'Test cricket comes first and if you prefer the riches of the IPL, you're no longer selected for the Test team'.

But they won't.

davech 07-01-2022 12:06 AM

Rain!


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