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pauldrulez 26-02-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Just wanted to have a rant about the Fins official Twitter feed from the combine. "Someone from the Buffalo table just got a sandwich!" Great, very helpful.

LOL.

The official Twitters will be great at draft time. San Diego and New England announced their picks that way last year. With more teams using it this year, the draft will be unsurprising if it goes that way again.

pauldrulez 26-02-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jazman
That sounds about right Zonin.... don't you find it amazing that a player that is only suspected of going in the later rounds get so much publicity? I'd understand it if he had the potential to be the number one draft pick ...

It's more the fact that he is one of the best College players of all time (before anyone jumps in, i'm just going based on experts talking about history of it), but that doesn't translate to NFL success. It really should, but it doesn't.

He's also a God-squad guy. (As am I, without the church stuff...) and very marketable.

pauldrulez 26-02-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zonin2000
Some would argue that this year's isn't an amazing QB class, but nonetheless it would be a huge surprise to see Tebow go before the 3rd round. Probably to Jacksonville.

Sam Bradford for me, is the most talented QB to come out in the last few years. Better than Ryan, Flacco, Stafford, Sanchez, Quinn, Russell etc.

But, with talent doesn't always come success. He HAS to stay injury-free. I think if he does, he'll be a top half QB next year, top 10 in his 2nd year. Yep, going out on a limb, here.

zonin2000 26-02-2010 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Sam Bradford for me, is the most talented QB to come out in the last few years. Better than Ryan, Flacco, Stafford, Sanchez, Quinn, Russell etc.

But, with talent doesn't always come success. He HAS to stay injury-free. I think if he does, he'll be a top half QB next year, top 10 in his 2nd year. Yep, going out on a limb, here.

Right. I'm no expert, but people have been saying that, had he declared last year, he'd have beaten Stafford to the number 1 pick. But because he has injuries, teams have become wary. The NFL are much better at assessing injury risk than football teams. Jimmy Bullard to Hull scenario (or indeed Ifill/Macken to Palace) would never have happened in the NFL.

pauldrulez 26-02-2010 06:16 PM

IMO, he's far better than Jimmy Clausen who is the other top QB in this draft.

Bradford is special and would have been the top pick last year, by a distance as well.

Swanny32 26-02-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
If, like me, you are bored tomorrow, then i'll provide the link to an NFL Network stream again.

I've watched Total Access all week and there coverage is 2nd to none.

I also recommend http://blog.pfwonline.com/ Yes, these are my guys from Boston who work for the Patriots, but they are also at the Combine and blogging live. They got some very good exclusives last year, as they meet other coaches and get good interviews. I'd say keep an eye on it and you never know what you'll see (apart from jokes and reviews of their dinner)

And also, the website where me and a few others will be breaking down the draftees with the help of tape, will be going live towards the end of next week when we receive most of it. It's our first year doing it, and it's not for money/jobs etc, it's just a fans perspective of the players and how we see them compared to an expert.

Appreciate it fella but I'm off to Donny tomorrow with Ardeo and a couple others.

Swanny32 26-02-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
And one other thing.

DJax, Maclin, Celek, McCoy. All under 25.

Kevin Kolb. 25.

Don't be shocked to see McNabb disappear, no matter what Reid says.

There are rumours that the younger players would like the young QB. If you can keep these players together, they'll be a great offense. They need to get working together in Training Camp. Trade McNabb and give Kolb all the Camps to work with these young guys.

A year ago I'd have laughed at you, heck, 6 weeks ago I'd have laughed at you even after the shut out against the Cowgirls, however, having done my research now and looking at the entire roster, thinking logically about the future of the franchise and talking to other Eagles fans I now completely agree. I'd love to see Kolb getting that number 1 slot on the depth chart. McNabb is done and dusted in Philly now.

zonin2000 26-02-2010 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Swanny32
A year ago I'd have laughed at you, heck, 6 weeks ago I'd have laughed at you even after the shut out against the Cowgirls, however, having done my research now and looking at the entire roster, thinking logically about the future of the franchise and talking to other Eagles fans I now completely agree. I'd love to see Kolb getting that number 1 slot on the depth chart. McNabb is done and dusted in Philly now.

Harsh on Donovan I think. Despite Paul's point about the youth of the best offensive players on the roster. Kolb may well be ready to step up, but nobody knows for sure. Whilst Donovan still has game (and I think he does) we've got to keep him.

Ultimately though, it will come down to what offers we get. He's not going to go for just a 1st round pick. He's definitely not going to the NFC, which rules out the Cards, Vikes and Niners. So then you have to find an AFC team which is only missing a QB; that is to say not somebody like, say, Buffalo who has other pressing needs and is therefore unlikely to want to trade more than one pick (or another player) for McNabb.

Looking down the list:

AFC East: NE - Brady; BUF - other needs; NYJ - Sanchez; MIA - Henne.
AFC North: PIT - Big Ben; CIN - Palmer; BAL - Flacco; CLE - other needs/Quinn.
AFC South: IND - Peyton; HOU - Schaub; TEN - Young; JAC - Tebow ;) Actually, at a push, maybe JAC.
AFC West: SD - Rivers; KC - Cassel; DEN - Orton/maybe; OAK - other needs/maybe

So you have a shortlist of three at-best maybes. But then the other factor is that McNabb would refuse a trade to a non-competitive team. This guy still wants to win a Super Bowl remember!

Next year, maybe.

pauldrulez 26-02-2010 07:49 PM

Raiders can't, they don't even have a first round pick in 2011 :D.

Vikings if Favre retires... :)

zonin2000 26-02-2010 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Raiders can't, they don't even have a first round pick in 2011 :D.

Vikings if Favre retires... :)

Won't go to NFC. Another complication with Vikes is that (I think) they have stated that they are prepared to wait on Favre right up until training camp. If he decides to retire, then they'll go with either Tavaris Jackson, or I guess a 3rd/4th round QB pick.

pauldrulez 26-02-2010 08:43 PM

I'd send him to the Seahawks if they offered though.

They have few weapons (Housh aside). They need to rebuild both Lines, get Receivers, another RB, a QB. You could give them McNabb and they'd struggle IMO.

They have a TE and Linebackers though...

Strathclyde Eagle 26-02-2010 09:48 PM

Fully agree with what Paul said about Bradford. The problem is in his last year at Oklahoma he had the same shoulder injured signficantly, not just once, but twice. He has looked very good, but at the same point Big XII defences weren't exactly great the season before last, and he did lose his two biggest games of the year (against Texas, and then against Florida for the national title). However I suspect he'll be good.

Tebow I was a really big fan of in his junior year. Seemingly unstoppable when running, placed in a scheme which enabled him to succeed and able to do just enough with his arm to get his team valuable points.

Senior year? I cooled on him somewhat. Tennessee - arguably the best defence he saw in the regular season - slowed him significantly, with coming draft stud Eric Berry intercepting one of his passes. Then Alabama in the SEC title game smothered him (although some of the play-calling I felt didn't help him). Throw in a concussion against Kentucky and you wonder how long he'd last.

Character wise? I like him. He's a leader, doesn't make excuses, and inspires his colleagues (see his speech post the Ole Miss loss in his junior year). He's committed to changing his motion but sadly I can't see him being a conventional QB in the NFL. I felt a team picking him could devise a scheme round him, but I don't think an NFL defence is going to get picked apart by an option offence the way college teams do (Florida could regularly do this for 8 yards a pop, put you in frequent 2nd and 2-like situations, make the game easier).

Tebow's role, at least in the short term, will be value on short-yardage situations. Do what Florida did, put him in the shotgun and try and stop him when he's made a running start. Regardless of what happens with his motion that will still be tough to do.

Final brief word on college QBs - Chase Daniel and Graham Harrell, reasonably big winners at the college level, went undrafted last year, while Josh Freeman, who I didn't remember doing squat on Saturdays went in round one to the Bucs. Someone is going to impress between now and the draft and end up going much higher than they should do on physical abilities alone.

pauldrulez 26-02-2010 09:59 PM

Completely agree.

And that guy you mention in the last sentence, I wonder if it's the same guy that i've got in my head... Jevan Snead?

Off average QBs, i'm watching the SoundFX of the Superbowl on NFL Network that has been very good this evening.

Great job by the NFL and showing Payton telling the refs about the Onside kick before the game was very good. Big difference between the Saints and Colts was passion. Saints looked like they wanted it. Colts didn't sound hyped or pumped IMO.

pauldrulez 26-02-2010 10:00 PM

And for NFL Network fans:

Kara Henderson. Hot or Not?

Strathclyde Eagle 26-02-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
And that guy you mention in the last sentence, I wonder if it's the same guy that i've got in my head... Jevan Snead?

Wasn't meaning anyone in particular, but it could be someone like Snead. We'll see.
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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
And for NFL Network fans:

Kara Henderson. Hot or Not?

No comment.

(Nodding head.)

pauldrulez 26-02-2010 10:28 PM

:D

I'm torn.

She's nice looking for an older woman.

But, she's no Erin Andrews. :love:

jazman 26-02-2010 11:04 PM

Does this mean Pinkie is on the back burner?

pauldrulez 26-02-2010 11:07 PM

Compared to Erin, i'd have to say yes.

saxoneagle 27-02-2010 03:35 AM

I'm still in the "Colt McCoy for #1 QB pick" camp :D

pauldrulez 27-02-2010 01:26 PM

:D


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