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dannyboy1807 08-03-2022 06:46 PM

Russell Wilson being traded to the Broncos
In what's being described as one of the largest trades in NFL history.

Funk Butter 08-03-2022 08:01 PM

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The Broncos have agreed to trade quarterback Drew Lock, tight end Noah Fant, defensive lineman Shelby Harris, two first-round picks, two second-round picks and a fifth-round pick to the Seahawks for Wilson and a fourth-round pick, sources said.
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hughff 08-03-2022 11:21 PM

Bet that the Seahawks playoff odds have dropped and the Broncos have leapt.

Funk Butter 10-03-2022 12:06 PM

Its not every day a franchise QB and Super Bowl winner gets traded.

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The Colts are trading quarterback Carson Wentz to the Washington Commanders. The Colts will receive the Commanders' third-round picks in 2022 and 2023, sources told Schefter. The 2023 third-rounder can become a second-round selection if Wentz plays 70% of Washington's snaps. The teams also swapped second-round picks in 2022, with the Colts moving up from No. 47 overall to No. 42.

EagleSE24 13-03-2022 11:32 PM

Brady announces he’s going to play another season with Tampa

EagleSE24 13-03-2022 11:33 PM

https://twitter.com/tombrady/status/...795045378?s=21

Spindle 14-03-2022 08:55 AM

Yeah, the GOAT is back

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/american-football/60731983

GB2506 14-03-2022 09:00 AM

Didn’t last long

EagleSE24 14-03-2022 09:26 AM

Only a few hours after someone bought his ‘last touchdown ball’ at auction for half a million dollars.

Spindle 14-03-2022 11:56 AM

Oh dear. Well, a million dollars for a ball, bollocks to them.

I'd want an agreement to have every ball he scores with until he actually does retire!

CP-RJW 14-03-2022 12:47 PM

Shit, we forget to destroy his horcruxes.

Tripod 10 15-03-2022 10:57 PM

Disappointed the Cowboys traded Amari Cooper to the Browns. I understand the salary and cap implications but for a 5th round pick? Gave up a 1st round pick for him in 2019. The Jones family have really buggered up the Cowboys since taking over. Massively overpaying Zeke and the shocking Prescott have really limited potential contracts. Cooper going meant that Dallas ended up overpaying for Gallup ( who I really like ) who is coming off an ACL injury.
Sooner or later, winning play off games needs to be more important than bringing in dollars.
Just hope they have a great draft next month.

Isle of Wight 16-03-2022 12:18 AM

Can anyone give me an idiots guide to the draft?

hughff 16-03-2022 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Isle of Wight (Post 16322649)
Can anyone give me an idiots guide to the draft?

It happens every year and Washington buggers it up.

You're welcome.

Hedgehog 16-03-2022 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Isle of Wight (Post 16322649)
Can anyone give me an idiots guide to the draft?

Basically team with the worse record the previous season gets first pick of the graduating college kids. (Although some drop out early to go pro).

Having said that there is a lot of wheeling and dealing takes place, and a team with a lower pick (better team) might trade numerous picks to the higher picking team so they can get the better player(s), i.e. I'll give you 5 of our picks if you give me your number 2 pick.

Over simplified really, and it gets a bit convoluted, which is why it takes 2 or 3 days to complete - there are clocks and times involved there also as well as last minute cattle trading.

Isle of Wight 16-03-2022 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 16322655)
Basically team with the worse record the previous season gets first pick of the graduating college kids. (Although some drop out early to go pro).

Having said that there is a lot of wheeling and dealing takes place, and a team with a lower pick (better team) might trade numerous picks to the higher picking team so they can get the better player(s), i.e. I'll give you 5 of our picks if you give me your number 2 pick.

Over simplified really, and it gets a bit convoluted, which is why it takes 2 or 3 days to complete - there are clocks and times involved there also as well as last minute cattle trading.

So how do the players get in the draft list. Does everyone in college get graded 1-1000 and the bloke thatís 999 has no hope of pro level? If 100 come into the pro game do 100 get kicked out each year?

hughff 16-03-2022 12:59 AM

Teams make their own draft lists based on their views of players talents and their team's needs in specific positions.

Players who are drafted earlier have their contracts pretty much guaranteed by the collective bargaining agreement. Later players may not be signed - the last player drafted is nicknamed "Mister Irrelevant" because it's so unlikely that he will ever play. However, several have had good careers, including winning Superbowls.

Isle of Wight 16-03-2022 01:06 AM

Thx Do players all have fixed salaries? Like qb gets £1 million a year but a back up special teams outfielder only gets £100k

Hedgehog 17-03-2022 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Isle of Wight (Post 16322659)
Thx Do players all have fixed salaries? Like qb gets £1 million a year but a back up special teams outfielder only gets £100k

Pretty sure it's an open market. There might be a minimum wage, but not sure it's position weighted.

hughff 17-03-2022 05:48 AM

My understanding, and I'm happy to be corrected, is that there is a minimum salary. However, that is for a player on the first team roster. Many players are on the practice squad, where they earn a lot less because they cannot be used in games. In the event of injury, a player can be moved from the practice roster to the playing roster and his income leaps up to the league minimum. I'm not sure if a player on the practice roster can be signed by another team but I suspect that they can, to preserve an open labour market.

In addition, the collective agreement pretty much means that new players receive a set contract coming into the league based on their draft position - there's very little room for a drafted rookie to negotiate. Rookie contracts last four years but the drafting team can exercise an option to extend it to five years. What this means is that players effectively can't negotiate their own contract until they have a lot of experience.

Generally, players in different positions receive wildly different contracts. Running backs, who are notoriously susceptible to injury (on average a running back has a three year career in the NFL, so less than a maximum rookie contract), get the least money while quarterbacks get the most. IIRC, Patrick Mahomes is on $45 million+ a year. Not all contracts are guaranteed either and players on the league minimum can often be cut midway through a season thus ending their contract.

Every team has a minimum and maximum cap that they must spend on players (it doesn't apply to coaches etc.) which is meant to keep the league competitive. Frankly, there are so many ways to work around it that it's more a guideline than a cap. There's no question the cap prevents teams from doing a Man City/Chelsea and hoovering up all the talent making them unbeatable over the course of the season. (I've often said that the only reason the PL plays games is for tv... and they could just ask teams to submit their wage bills for awarding final places!)

The real effect of the cap, however, is to prevent teams from paying the people who generate the money (the players) what they are worth. While the stars get big bucks, the relatively replaceable guys on league minimum get a relative pittance, even though the stars can't be stars without them. It makes it very easy for rich owners to get richer if they are pulling in about $750million p.a. and only need to spend a third of that on their staff.

Now aren't you sorry you asked?


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