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Benzhiyi 12-01-2009 10:42 PM

Can he refuse to be traded?

pauldrulez 12-01-2009 11:09 PM

I'm not sure tbh.

Different sources are saying he can and others (the more reputable ones) are saying he can't.

I guess if he keeps his demands high, rather than negotiating with the teams, he may price teams out of it.

One of the reasons that the Pats will look to trade early IMO, is to get that money of the tag. If no-one wants to trade, I could see the Pats taking the tag off.

Now that scenario is unlikely.

And with our office in disarray. McDaniels gone, has taken Capers and Pioli is on his way elsewhere, its going to be hard to make decisions like that.

Bill is in for a lot of work this next season.

It's likely he works from within. Bill O'Brien (WR coach) will likely be made OC with Belichick's help with the signal-calling.
RAC is rumoured to be coming back as it will be an experienced head there which allows Bill to work on the offensive side of the ball.

It's a long, interesting off-season ahead. I've no doubt i'll explode with excitement at Doncaster away as I attempt to rush home for the draft (with online commentary from PFWinProgress as they break down the picks and call everyone a reach).

First season in a long time that Bill has had a rest before the off-season.
2007 it was Free Agency the next Day after the Bowl.
2006 he was coaching in the Pro Bowl.

Hope the (unfortunate) rest does him some good although with Cassel in the team, his persona seemed to be a bit more excitable and back like he was in the early 2000s.

How did my answer ramble on to that? :D ;)

jlmatthews 13-01-2009 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Strathclyde Eagle
I think Ravens-Steelers could be a classic, but it will probably be a defensive classic.

Agreed. I think this will be a fantastic game.

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Originally Posted by Benzhiyi
Don't like Rivers, so delighted to see the Chargers lose.

:lux: :lux: :lux:

Benzhiyi 13-01-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
I guess if he keeps his demands high, rather than negotiating with the teams, he may price teams out of it.

But surely it's not his call to price teams out of it?

This isn't like British football here. If the Pats agree a trade with Minnesota he can't just refuse to go, and they would automatically take over his one year contract as far as I'm aware. Once he becomes a Minnesota player only then can he agree a new contract - not beforehand.

I may have it wrong but that's the rules as I understand them. Players are essentially pieces of meat. (Hence why Jake Plummer never dressed again after being traded to Tampa.)

jazman 13-01-2009 12:14 PM

Any chance someone setting up a Patriots/Cassell/Brady etc thread? ;)

saxoneagle 13-01-2009 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jazman
Any chance someone setting up a Patriots/Cassell/Brady etc thread? ;)

It would be dull and only Paul would post on it.

jazman 13-01-2009 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saxoneagle
It would be dull and only Paul would post on it.

And your point is? ;)

saxoneagle 13-01-2009 04:11 PM

No-one mentioned Dungy retiring???

elliott 13-01-2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by saxoneagle
No-one mentioned Dungy retiring???

Having watched NFL network for the past 5 hours, it's all I've bloody heard about...:S: :S: :S: :eek: :eek: :S: :S:

pauldrulez 13-01-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by saxoneagle
It would be dull and only Paul would post on it.

I'm the one that tried to get us off the subject seventeen thousand times, but I have to respond when people ask ;)

And Dungy, good luck to him.

Some people saying, like Favre he went one year too far.

For me, unlike Favre I like the guy and have big respect for him.

I can still see him coming back though.

elliott, where are you watching NFL Network? :D

jazman 13-01-2009 07:48 PM

On one of Americas Game programmes it was suggested Dungy was a lightweight coach and let players do what they want at old team - Kansas?

pauldrulez 13-01-2009 09:19 PM

So, McDaniels gone to Denver and saying he will wear a hoodie in homage to Belichick (you hear that Mangina?)

Pioli gone to Kansas where i'm excited to see what he is going to do.

Our WR coach and ST coaches are likely to move on to Denver with Josh.

Our off-season just got stranger yet more exciting.

:) :( :confused:

AddiscombeEagle 13-01-2009 09:24 PM

Just been watching some Ravens videos. Jeez, what a leader of men Ray Lewis is. Man, every team in whatever sport needs someone like that. Can't help but be inspired. Very impressive.

I take it most teams in the NFL have leaders like that, who have the same qualities.

pauldrulez 13-01-2009 09:29 PM

Bruschi... oh wait, he isn't liked that much from what I hear. Four words... MAYO ;)

Erm... the Phins have Porter right now. Dansby at the Cards. Dawkins at the Eagles. A lot of teams do, but some have some younger players who combine together as a Team rather than the one player.

elliott 13-01-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez

elliott, where are you watching NFL Network? :D

stream thing i pay for. has NFL network 24 hours a day & NASN 24 hours a day. All in lovely quality.

Great to watch some old-timey football.

pauldrulez 13-01-2009 09:57 PM

Cool.

SKY contract has come to an end.

NFL Network is LIKELY to be coming to the UK :lux:

Excellent.

Please be here for the Combine.

Strathclyde Eagle 13-01-2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jazman
On one of Americas Game programmes it was suggested Dungy was a lightweight coach and let players do what they want at old team - Kansas?

Tampa - where at the very least the defensive players loved him. Look how many of the players there attended his son's funeral.
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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
It's likely he works from within. Bill O'Brien (WR coach) will likely be made OC with Belichick's help with the signal-calling.

Can't remember where I heard it but apparently Belichick has had only two OCs (Weis and McDaniels). He never had one in his tenure in Cleveland. Don't be surprised if no-one carries the title next year, as apparently McDaniels didn't in his first year effectively carrying out the role.

AddiscombeEagle 13-01-2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Cool.

SKY contract has come to an end.

NFL Network is LIKELY to be coming to the UK :lux:

Excellent.

Please be here for the Combine.


What do you mean the Sky contract has come to the end? Will it not be on Sky next year?

Please tell me I won't have to invest in Setanta.

pauldrulez 13-01-2009 10:06 PM

Is the point I am going towards ;)

I think he will be doing what he does with McDaniels with O'Brien. Bill loves the guy. It's likely he will take a run at Crennel to work on the D side if he wants to. That way he can focus his attention on the offense and allow Bill (no.2) to adjust to the job and learn from under him.

I think BB wants to be involved with the playcalling from what i'm hearing so that BO'B can hear what is done, when it is done and how to adjust to the pace of it.

pauldrulez 13-01-2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AddiscombeEagle
What do you mean the Sky contract has come to the end? Will it not be on Sky next year?

Please tell me I won't have to invest in Setanta.

NFL haven't talked with SKY about extending the contract of NFL Network games.

They would likely still have CBS/Fox/NBC etc which is 80%+ games. But Total Access/Gameday/Live Wire would all be shown wherever NFL sign the contract which would be either NFL Network or SKY as I don't think it will be on Setanta.


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