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Maz 25-03-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stevek (Post 15716308)
Well, let's start with all channels from the BBC, ITV and Sky then.

Do you really want them to have a sgner for every program that they produce? For 80,000 sign language users?

Custard Pie 25-03-2021 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle (Post 15716188)
I watched The Wire with the subtitles on.

That's a good idea, I'm only just into series 2 and half the time I haven't got a clue what they're saying. Still brilliant though.

Maidstoned Eagle 25-03-2021 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Custard Pie (Post 15716319)
That's a good idea, I'm only just into series 2 and half the time I haven't got a clue what they're saying. Still brilliant though.

It really helps, especially with the drug gang dialogue.

Polak 25-03-2021 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle (Post 15716188)
I watched The Wire with the subtitles on.

And even then I couldn't always follow what they were talking about.

Richard 25-03-2021 02:39 PM

Watched all four series of The Agency recently with subtitles - hadn't appreciated how much one has to focus on the screen, it quite disturbed my usual practice of flitting between reading something and watching television can sometimes irritate Mrs Richard.

Rather insensitively I hadn't appreciated how much more effort deaf people have to make when watching television. But then, they don't have to listen to inane football commentators ...

Maidstoned Eagle 26-03-2021 07:58 AM

Not really an annoyance more a wtf but..... faceachers who won't take the vaccine but are over the moon that McDonald's have opened in our town and are queuing to shove that shit down their necks.

Vince Hilaire's Afro 26-03-2021 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15716309)
Do you really want them to have a sgner for every program that they produce? For 80,000 sign language users?

This guy has some time on his hands

https://i.ibb.co/94rFZGR/19-A2484-B-...2-F5021649.gif

Worksop Palace 26-03-2021 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle (Post 15717356)
Not really an annoyance more a wtf but..... faceachers who won't take the vaccine but are over the moon that McDonald's have opened in our town and are queuing to shove that shit down their necks.

Iíve noticed the queues at our McDonaldís have been unreal over the last few months. Iím not exaggerating when I say there are regular queues of 50 + cars in the drive through. Thatís got to be a minimum 30-45 min wait. Iím not sure Iíd sit in my car for 45 mins for a steak dinner let alone a floppy piece of rubber in a stale bun and some cold chips.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 26-03-2021 08:54 AM

James Corden .

Custard Pie 26-03-2021 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE (Post 15717413)
James Corden .

Oprah Winfrey's warm up man.

adrenalin john 26-03-2021 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Custard Pie (Post 15717447)
Oprah Winfrey's warm up man.

I believe the technical term is fluffer

Custard Pie 26-03-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by adrenalin john (Post 15717453)
I believe the technical term is fluffer

:supergrin:

adrenalin john 26-03-2021 09:25 AM

Blessed, I can't stand it.

I had such a good shit this morning I felt blessed. **** off, your attempt at the deification of your defication means is pathetic.

Smug narcissm dressed up in faux christian humbleness, the only thing worse is truly blessed. As if you can be falsely blessed.

The only way I could be blessed is if I never hear the ******* word again

west country boy 26-03-2021 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CT_Palace (Post 15683453)
Adrian Chiles

Quite how the Grauniad decided this smug git was a good pick for the Opinion section is beyond me. His latest hackle raising waste of publishing space being one of his worst. Judging by the comments, I'm not the only one overly irritated by this twat.

The fact that Chiles is tupping Guardian editor-in-chief Katharine Viner is a mere coincidence, Iím sure.

CT_Palace 26-03-2021 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by west country boy (Post 15717487)
The fact that Chiles is tupping Guardian editor-in-chief Katharine Viner is a mere coincidence, Iím sure.

Ahhhhh that answers a lot. She must be a munter to have ended up with him?

RazorsEdge 26-03-2021 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Maidstoned Eagle (Post 15716188)
I watched The Wire with the subtitles on.

I used to think they were shouting Ďbe boí till I turned the subtitle and learnt they were shouting Ď5 Oí

Subtitles is the way forward

pallet 26-03-2021 02:25 PM

Banks shutting at 2pm.because of covid, dont see the connection.

Prince Phillip 26-03-2021 06:20 PM

Anything other than a standard, traditional hot cross bun. Which toaster-unfriendly ingredient are they going to try and stuff in next?

stevek 26-03-2021 06:30 PM

There has been recent research showing that watching TV with subtitles on is great for children's literacy.

Paulinmorden 26-03-2021 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by stevek (Post 15718020)
There has been recent research showing that watching TV with subtitles on is great for children's literacy.

This is given as a reason why lots of Europeans speak decent English. They have lots of TV in English and sub titled in their language. This was they're reading it and hearing a translation at the same time.

The other side though is we have watched lots of foreign series the last year. Have to keep remembering that you can't rely on just listening to the dialogue but have to read the subtitles. 🙄

chateauferret 26-03-2021 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince Phillip (Post 15718008)
Anything other than a standard, traditional hot cross bun. Which toaster-unfriendly ingredient are they going to try and stuff in next?

Marks are doing a cheese and Marmite variety. I like both cheese and Marmite, but this tastes foul.

I love the Belgian chocolate and salted caramel ones though.

Isle of Wight 26-03-2021 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulinmorden (Post 15718030)
This is given as a reason why lots of Europeans speak decent English. They have lots of TV in English and sub titled in their language. This was they're reading it and hearing a translation at the same time.

The other side though is we have watched lots of foreign series the last year. Have to keep remembering that you can't rely on just listening to the dialogue but have to read the subtitles. ��

“ a poste” I’ve watched wayyyy to much Gomorrah

Vince Hilaire's Afro 26-03-2021 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulinmorden (Post 15718030)
This is given as a reason why lots of Europeans speak decent English. They have lots of TV in English and sub titled in their language. This was they're reading it and hearing a translation at the same time.

The other side though is we have watched lots of foreign series the last year. Have to keep remembering that you can't rely on just listening to the dialogue but have to read the subtitles. ��

I believe the same was said about catchy pop chart tunes sung in English

Hedgehog 26-03-2021 07:35 PM

I appreciate this may well be a setting that I need to change, but for example, if I search for someone's name in Google and it links me to Facebook, and I click on that link taking me into Facebook, there is no option go back to the previous page, i.e. the Google search page.

It locks me into Facebook. :wallbash:

CK 26-03-2021 10:01 PM

Listening to radio "broadcasters" who have no training. Read the text before you start a broadcast. Don't just take a gulp of breath and go until you run out at an inappropriate time mid sentence.

LN1 26-03-2021 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 15718061)
I appreciate this may well be a setting that I need to change, but for example, if I search for someone's name in Google and it links me to Facebook, and I click on that link taking me into Facebook, there is no option go back to the previous page, i.e. the Google search page.

It locks me into Facebook. :wallbash:

When on your Google results 'right click' on your chosen result and choose 'Open in new tab' and your Google results are saved in the original tab.

palacemetros 26-03-2021 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CT_Palace (Post 15717641)
Ahhhhh that answers a lot. She must be a munter to have ended up with him?

Just looked her up. An uncanny resemblance to Katie Hopkins IMO.

So it's a "no" from me.

Nostrils 26-03-2021 10:21 PM

When I play a song on youtube it automatically moves to The Cure's Pictures of You 12" version. I've got absolutely no idea where that's come from. I ******* loathe that song now.

ozzieEagle 26-03-2021 10:31 PM

Session times in restaurants.

ozzieEagle 26-03-2021 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulinmorden (Post 15718030)
This is given as a reason why lots of Europeans speak decent English. They have lots of TV in English and sub titled in their language. This was they're reading it and hearing a translation at the same time.

The other side though is we have watched lots of foreign series the last year. Have to keep remembering that you can't rely on just listening to the dialogue but have to read the subtitles. ��


Poor subtitles annoy me, either they disappear into the background because they are produced in white instead of yellow, or they editorialise the scene and mismatch the nuances of what's on screen. Some shows are terrible some are really good.

Watching certain scenes and realise something pretty major has been lost in translation along the line.

Hedgehog 26-03-2021 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LN1 (Post 15718181)
When on your Google results 'right click' on your chosen result and choose 'Open in new tab' and your Google results are saved in the original tab.

Good tip. Thanks.

(Still annoyed at Facebook though! But that's a given I guess)

KYLIE MINEAGLE 27-03-2021 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ozzieEagle (Post 15718207)
Session times in restaurants.

Yeah **** that. Pubs up here are reserving tables. " You can sit there till 6.30 then it's reserved " Blerks to that.

Young bloke has just opened a wine bar round the corner from me. 3 good beers and obvious decent wine for Mrs KM.

Stavros 69 27-03-2021 12:54 AM

Delivery drivers thinking the only way to communicate is by their horn.
Stuck behind gates, ragging around in first gear no respect for the roads.
The new amazon generation

PeterH 27-03-2021 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by stevek (Post 15718020)
There has been recent research showing that watching TV with subtitles on is great for children's literacy.

I recommend it for my students, and for my Spanish.

It gets throught the dense skull eventually. Reaping the benefits after near on 20 years.

PeterH 27-03-2021 04:17 AM

I am anti all this reservation nonsense in pub and bars. I get it for a special meal in a restaurant. But in a regular pub, it is just shite. Squuezed in a corner somewhere while a table remains empty for 30 minutes. Then a bunch of late, smug bastards turn up to take it.

I have taken to mentioning it to bar staff that I woun't be returning as long as they keep the policy going.

Busy pub, get there early.

I am not one for queueing outside places, pubs and the like, either. That's just a waste of valuable drinking time.

I might have made an exception fro the right kind of club, but that is about it.

I don't think I will ever be the kind that books months in advance for some over fancy restaurant - especially one that is going to charge me 500 notes (for two) for the privilege of that wait.

the digger 27-03-2021 06:32 AM

Queuing for 5 hours for a covid test because I went to Brisbane for 2 days.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 28-03-2021 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by the digger (Post 15718300)
Queuing for 5 hours for a covid test because I went to Brisbane for 2 days.

Suprised Anna let you in. Queensland for Queenslanders and all that bollox.:D

Paulinmorden 28-03-2021 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stavros 69 (Post 15718270)
Delivery drivers thinking the only way to communicate is by their horn.
Stuck behind gates, ragging around in first gear no respect for the roads.
The new amazon generation

Does this explain it?
https://www.deadlinenews.co.uk/2021/...crime-news-uk/

Vince Hilaire's Afro 28-03-2021 11:18 PM

When you don't get a sauce packet open on the first try. You try each top corner, then each side corner, then go around all eight corners again, with no luck. Then you move on to every other packet with exactly the same level of non-success, until you reach the final remaining packet, and use scissors (if available) just to make sure.

If only you'd admitted to yourself at the beginning that you knew your fingers were too greasy to open it in the first place.

Hedgehog 29-03-2021 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince Hilaire's Afro (Post 15720885)
When you don't get a sauce packet open on the first try. You try each top corner, then each side corner, then go around all eight corners again, with no luck. Then you move on to every other packet with exactly the same level of non-success, until you reach the final remaining packet, and use scissors (if available) just to make sure.

If only you'd admitted to yourself at the beginning that you knew your fingers were too greasy to open it in the first place.


And most of the sauce ends up on your fingers, your shirt, your trousers and the floor.... never the plate or food.

Vince Hilaire's Afro 29-03-2021 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 15720929)
And most of the sauce ends up on your fingers, your shirt, your trousers and the floor.... never the plate or food.

Let's not forget the infamous 'watermelon balls squirt' when you don't open the packet quite enough, squeeze it too much, and the sauce ejaculates in one thunderous crescendo.

Hedgehog 29-03-2021 02:43 AM

Things that annoy you
 
Soy sauce is tops for doing that...

Although those little milk things are my nemesis.

Maz 30-03-2021 10:48 AM

I have just received an email form someone called Natalie, and she helpfully tells me that in replying to her...
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[My pronouns are she/her]

firesign 30-03-2021 11:20 AM

My work is currently Ďencouragingí this pronoun shit on email signatures :veryangry

chateauferret 30-03-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by firesign (Post 15722416)
My work is currently ‘encouraging’ this pronoun shit on email signatures :veryangry

Are you allowed to invent your own pronouns and insist that everyone else use them instead of the real ones? If everyone had their own set of pronouns, well, they wouldn't be pronouns any more.

Perhaps I could even invent my own grammatical cases and require my pronouns to be declined according to them. And tell everyone what prepositions govern which.

Stavros 69 30-03-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15722397)
I have just received an email form someone called Natalie, and she helpfully tells me that in replying to her...

WTF?!

Maz 30-03-2021 11:35 AM

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My work is currently ‘encouraging’ this pronoun shit on email signatures :veryangry

And are your people engaging with it?

Maidstoned Eagle 30-03-2021 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chateauferret (Post 15722419)
Are you allowed to invent your own pronouns and insist that everyone else use them instead of the real ones? If everyone had their own set of pronouns, well, they wouldn't be pronouns any more.

Perhaps I could even invent my own grammatical cases and require my pronouns to be declined according to them. And tell everyone what prepositions govern which.

So can we call you ****ferret then?

TopKnot 30-03-2021 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15722424)
And are your people engaging with it?

my company is too, and yes people are voluntarily engaging with it. I have it in my email signature, don't see what the problem is.

Maz 30-03-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TopKnot (Post 15722463)
my company is too, and yes people are voluntarily engaging with it. I have it in my email signature, don't see what the problem is.


The problem is seeing problems where none exist. I have sometimes mistaken someone's gender over the years (I thought Les Butler was a beautiful woman until I met him) and it was really easy to sort it out without all of this linguistic nonsense, which if anything highlights gender wars.

TopKnot 30-03-2021 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15722466)
The problem is seeing problems where none exist. I have sometimes mistaken someone's gender over the years (I thought Les Butler was a beautiful woman until I met him) and it was really easy to sort it out without all of this linguistic nonsense, which if anything highlights gender wars.

I'm sure thats still the case. The pronouns thing is supposed to be an expression of support rather than any kind of instruction/label. I don't mind making a small gesture like that if it makes any trans colleagues or clients feel more supported.

west country boy 30-03-2021 12:51 PM

Apologies for the source, but this article sums up how I feel about the "T" issue: https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/1...l-of-stonewall

stevek 30-03-2021 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TopKnot (Post 15722468)
I'm sure thats still the case. The pronouns thing is supposed to be an expression of support rather than any kind of instruction/label. I don't mind making a small gesture like that if it makes any trans colleagues or clients feel more supported.

Yep - I really can't see why it would bother anyone.

firesign 30-03-2021 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15722424)
And are your people engaging with it?

Sadly, some are and it seems to be gathering momentum. I’m currently doing my best to ignore it.

Without wishing to derail the thread - i don’t like ‘compelled speech’ which is exactly what the use of preferred nouns is all about. It is trying force others to validate your beliefs.

Hedgehog 30-03-2021 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TopKnot (Post 15722463)
my company is too, and yes people are voluntarily engaging with it. I have it in my email signature, don't see what the problem is.

I'm sure I could research/Google it, but can you give an example of what you have put in your email signature?

TopKnot 30-03-2021 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 15722537)
I'm sure I could research/Google it, but can you give an example of what you have put in your email signature?

something like this:

Jimmy Johnson
Head of Clever Activity
Him/his
***
Bilbo and sons London


(not my real details)

Archiebald Leitch 30-03-2021 04:01 PM

I’m so old I don’t know what the hell you are talking about.

Isle of Wight 30-03-2021 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Archiebald Leitch (Post 15722544)
Iím so old I donít know what the hell you are talking about.

Im glad you posted that as I havenít a clue either him/his? Me/mine? You/yours?

Reps AJ 30-03-2021 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Isle of Wight (Post 15722548)
Im glad you posted that as I havenít a clue either him/his? Me/mine? You/yours?

It's people giving you third person pronouns so you can email back to them in the third person.

nathe 30-03-2021 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Reps AJ (Post 15722559)
It's people giving you third person pronouns so you can email back to them in the third person.

I wanted **** on mine but apparently it's not allowed

Isle of Wight 30-03-2021 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Reps AJ (Post 15722559)
It's people giving you third person pronouns so you can email back to them in the third person.

But why?
Bull/Bullocks ?

Hedgehog 30-03-2021 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Archiebald Leitch (Post 15722544)
Iím so old I donít know what the hell you are talking about.

Me neither, hence me asking the question above.

My wife's niece has a son (formally a daughter) who has a trans friend they refer to as "they". It can make a real mess of the English language when you get into present and past tense!

Isle of Wight 30-03-2021 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 15722576)
Me neither, hence me asking the question above.

My wife's niece has a son (formally a daughter) who has a trans friend they refer to as "they". It can make a real mess of the English language when you get into present and past tense!

You canít have they thatís plural. Itís an interesting one though I canít think of a suitable word without sounding pretty phobic. Maybe a whole new word has to be created

CT_Palace 30-03-2021 04:49 PM

Teacher wife of a mate in NJ had some training on this yesterday. Amongst the plethora of identifiers (e.g. heterosexual, lesbian, transgender etc) was ally. Ally?? WTF is that?

west country boy 30-03-2021 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Isle of Wight (Post 15722578)
You can’t have they, that’s plural. It’s an interesting one though I can’t think of a suitable word without sounding pretty phobic. Maybe a whole new word has to be created

There's nothing wrong with "they" as a singular generic pronoun (in my o, of course).

Including ones preferred pronoun on an email signature is however the equivalent of listing "hobbies" on a CV and anyone who does such a thing should be shot like a lame greyhound.

Hedgehog 30-03-2021 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CT_Palace (Post 15722586)
Teacher wife of a mate in NJ had some training on this yesterday. Amongst the plethora of identifiers (e.g. heterosexual, lesbian, transgender etc) was ally. Ally?? WTF is that?

I read this Wikipedia entry for Ally, and I'm still not 100% I understand it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_ally

chateauferret 30-03-2021 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Isle of Wight (Post 15722575)
But why?
Bull/Bullocks ?

A few languages actually use third person verbs with nouns as second person pronouns - Spanish usted, of course. Sometimes the third person pronoun gets adopted as the second person as well by that route. The second person polite form in German is the same as the third person plural, for instance, with the proviso that you capitalise it. Cf. polite English usage in say an upmarket tailor's: "Which side does Sir dress?" (which in modern Glaswegian translates as: "Wheear d'ye keep yer tadger?")

Anyway, does all this mean I can get upset if someone refers to me as "they"?

big bad John 30-03-2021 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 15722576)
Me neither, hence me asking the question above.

My wife's niece has a son (formally a daughter) who has a trans friend they refer to as "they". It can make a real mess of the English language when you get into present and past tense!

Yeah, you leave school at 16 with an English CSE Grade F, and you think, thank fxck I don't have to worry about pro-nouns, adverbs and colons anymore. Then you get older and some doctor who's not even an English teacher wants to check your colon. Then you find that some tranny wants to beat the shite out of you because you put a hyphen in the wrong part of the adjective used to describe the said person, persons, he-she them -they- it- that. What-feckin ever confused:

Hedgehog 30-03-2021 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by chateauferret (Post 15722591)
A few languages actually use third person verbs with nouns as second person pronouns - Spanish usted, of course. Sometimes the third person pronoun gets adopted as the second person as well by that route. The second person polite form in German is the same as the third person plural, for instance, with the proviso that you capitalise it. Cf. polite English usage in say an upmarket tailor's: "Which side does Sir dress?" (which in modern Glaswegian translates as: "Wheear d'ye keep yer tadger?")

Anyway, does all this mean I can get upset if someone refers to me as "they"?

Who's on first, What's on second, I Don't Know's on third

Isle of Wight 30-03-2021 05:04 PM

I give up I really do. Live and let live, it’s all personal choice but stop trying to make people like me the bad guys all the time. I honestly feel as though I have to tip toe all the time for fear of offending someone.

chateauferret 30-03-2021 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 15722590)
I read this Wikipedia entry for Ally, and I'm still not 100% I understand it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_ally

That is practically incomprehensible.

If people want to re-engineer the grammar of English to make it more inclusive, they should get a proper linguist to do it. Not someone who writes shite like "Their group maintained an apologist standpoint, where their end goal was living in peaceful coexistence with the oppressor. This assimilationist perspective tended to attract more cis, white queers in the movement who had the luxury of being able to blend in, as opposed to the liberationists, who seemed to be drawing in those more marginalized (queer/trans people of color)."

I'm all for supporting diversity, but I've read that slowly several times and I haven't got a clue what it's supposed to mean.

big bad John 30-03-2021 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CT_Palace (Post 15722586)
Teacher wife of a mate in NJ had some training on this yesterday. Amongst the plethora of identifiers (e.g. heterosexual, lesbian, transgender etc) was ally. Ally?? WTF is that?


Maybe Ally Brown. Covers the colour option as well.

Paulinmorden 30-03-2021 05:25 PM

A lot of it is a generational thing. I know at my daughter's college it is a normal thing to establish how some one would like to be addressed. Not a difficult thing to get your head around. If you know you're talking to/addressing a male you won't normally use female forms and vice versa. When I've talked to my daughter about this as well as not offending someone by a term they don't identify with there is a belief that the more neutral terms are used the less chance that preconceived ideas about others will form.
Let's face it most on here use a pseudonym so would I be safer addressing any of you as you/they rather than him /her?

Maz 30-03-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulinmorden (Post 15722620)
A lot of it is a generational thing. I know at my daughter's college it is a normal thing to establish how some one would like to be addressed. Not a difficult thing to get your head around. If you know you're talking to/addressing a male you won't normally use female forms and vice versa. When I've talked to my daughter about this as well as not offending someone by a term they don't identify with there is a belief that the more neutral terms are used the less chance that preconceived ideas about others will form.
Let's face it most on here use a pseudonym so would I be safer addressing any of you as you/they rather than him /her?

People have frequently (blame Greta) assumed that I am female ; why on earth should I be offended? If people don't mean to be rude, only a bounder takes offence.

Fatboy 30-03-2021 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulinmorden (Post 15722620)
A lot of it is a generational thing. I know at my daughter's college it is a normal thing to establish how some one would like to be addressed. Not a difficult thing to get your head around. If you know you're talking to/addressing a male you won't normally use female forms and vice versa. When I've talked to my daughter about this as well as not offending someone by a term they don't identify with there is a belief that the more neutral terms are used the less chance that preconceived ideas about others will form.
Let's face it most on here use a pseudonym so would I be safer addressing any of you as you/they rather than him /her?

True, as you could be Paul in Morden OR Pauline Morden and left the E off....

Paulinmorden 30-03-2021 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fatboy (Post 15722628)
True, as you could be Paul in Morden OR Pauline Morden and left the E off....

That's better than a F off 😀

Reps AJ 30-03-2021 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulinmorden (Post 15722620)
If you know you're talking to/addressing a male you won't normally use female forms and vice versa.

(I agree with your post, its not a difficult thing for people to do)

Just on this one, if I'm talking to someone I'd use "you" not he/him/she/her. Reps AJ doesn't talk to people in the third person.

Maidstoned Eagle 30-03-2021 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Paulinmorden (Post 15722620)
A lot of it is a generational thing. I know at my daughter's college it is a normal thing to establish how some one would like to be addressed. Not a difficult thing to get your head around. If you know you're talking to/addressing a male you won't normally use female forms and vice versa. When I've talked to my daughter about this as well as not offending someone by a term they don't identify with there is a belief that the more neutral terms are used the less chance that preconceived ideas about others will form.
Let's face it most on here use a pseudonym so would I be safer addressing any of you as you/they rather than him /her?

You can refer to me as"My Lord", "Sir" or "His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Maidstoned"

Stellavista 30-03-2021 06:39 PM

Whatever happened to 'her indoors'?

Maidstoned Eagle 30-03-2021 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Stellavista (Post 15722668)
Whatever happened to 'her indoors'?

Under the patio.

Pat of the Palace 30-03-2021 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15722627)
People have frequently (blame Greta) assumed that I am female ; why on earth should I be offended? If people don't mean to be rude, only a bounder takes offence.

....is the right answer.
If you're waiting for the hormones to kick in or you haven't had your todger chopped off yet it's not unreasonable for someone to make an honest mistake.
That said it's a bit twuntish in my book to insist on your opinion of someone's gender if they've pointed out their preference. Live and let live.

Olympian2 30-03-2021 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15722627)
People have frequently (blame Greta) assumed that I am female

Is it because youíre always right? :p

Maz 30-03-2021 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat of the Palace (Post 15722678)
....is the right answer.
If you're waiting for the hormones to kick in or you haven't had your todger chopped off yet it's not unreasonable for someone to make an honest mistake.
That said it's a bit twuntish in my book to insist on your opinion of someone's gender if they've pointed out their preference. Live and let live.

Is also right.

PeterH 30-03-2021 07:44 PM

I suspect it would be offensive to just call them 'IT', although it makes more sense than they.

Reps AJ 30-03-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 15722705)
Is it because youíre always right? :p

:lux::lux:

Hedgehog 30-03-2021 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chateauferret (Post 15722608)
That is practically incomprehensible.

If people want to re-engineer the grammar of English to make it more inclusive, they should get a proper linguist to do it. Not someone who writes shite like "Their group maintained an apologist standpoint, where their end goal was living in peaceful coexistence with the oppressor. This assimilationist perspective tended to attract more cis, white queers in the movement who had the luxury of being able to blend in, as opposed to the liberationists, who seemed to be drawing in those more marginalized (queer/trans people of color)."

I'm all for supporting diversity, but I've read that slowly several times and I haven't got a clue what it's supposed to mean.


Iím glad it wasnít just me that struggled with the entry.

PeterH 31-03-2021 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hedgehog (Post 15722968)
Iím glad it wasnít just me that struggled with the entry.

Are you on the right thread?

Slimbloke'H' 31-03-2021 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Maz (Post 15722466)
The problem is seeing problems where none exist...and it was really easy to sort it out without all of this linguistic nonsense, which if anything highlights gender wars.

You must spread... etc.

pallet 31-03-2021 07:13 AM

Havent we just all let this go too far? Parents letting 6/7 years decide their gender, people wanting to identfy as a furry? And what the hell is an Ally anyway?
I know I am old and that is part of it but until you are a suitable age ie 16 you should remain as a boy or a girl. Letting kids have operations and hormone replace drugs before that just seems wrong.

Fatboy 31-03-2021 09:19 AM

Please feel to address me as a Human being. I think that covers everything.

Reps AJ 31-03-2021 09:42 AM

Seeing pictures of a local park absolutely covered in litter because the lazy c*nts who brought it with them can't be bothered to take it home with them again

cappuccinoeagle 31-03-2021 11:41 PM

That Brighton bloke scoring for Poland tonight. I’d actually never heard of him until he scored.

PeterH 01-04-2021 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fatboy (Post 15723111)
Please feel to address me as a Human being. I think that covers everything.

I doubt that.

ExiledStirling 02-04-2021 06:30 AM

Ridiculous requests for donations at work that you feel you have to contribute to so as to save you being labelled a heartless bastard.

Two days ago; 'xxxxx Father-in-law has died we are going to buy her flowers if you want contribute'

chateauferret 02-04-2021 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cappuccinoeagle (Post 15724206)
That Brighton bloke scoring for Poland tonight. Iíd actually never heard of him until he scored.

Didn't you know? He's the Polish Levandow... oh, hang on ...

olly cromwell 02-04-2021 08:08 AM

Whilst driving needy people who expect me to wave every time every time they give a small courtesy, waving 10 hours a day will do nothing for my wrists that are needed for more important things

Bizarro 02-04-2021 08:29 AM

Drivers who wave for you to come out on roundabouts when they have the right of way.

WLYWLYAWYPWF 02-04-2021 08:49 AM

Also drivers who right turn across you instead of letting you out first from side road junction. Absolute wank wipes.

BERT'S HEAD 02-04-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ExiledStirling (Post 15726406)
Ridiculous requests for donations at work that you feel you have to contribute to so as to save you being labelled a heartless bastard.

Two days ago; 'xxxxx Father-in-law has died we are going to buy her flowers if you want contribute'

When someone I worked with was leaving a 10p contribution was proferred by his colleague.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 02-04-2021 09:06 AM

Drivers who drive slowly actively looking for pedestrians so that they can stop and let them cross.


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