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Tomo 09-01-2022 10:26 PM

Hameed probably has quite got the game to be playing in Australia just yet.

I think he’s much better than he’s allowed himself to look the last few weeks unfortunately. He’s playing devoid of any confidence which is causing him to reach and push for the ball.

I really hope a few young players see what’s happened and take the opportunity to play some Sheffield Shield games in the coming winters to prove themselves and gain that experience.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 09-01-2022 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RazorsEdge (Post 16200474)
I am sure Gavaskar scored slower than Boycott in the World Cup (if ever that was possible) haha

First one day game I saw when I moved here was against India. Gavaskar batted like it was a test from ball one , and carried his bat. It got so bad that the electric scoreboard which would say ,100 needed off 10 overs , just said . Runs needed a lot. Jeez it was boring.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 09-01-2022 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomo (Post 16201336)
Hameed probably has quite got the game to be playing in Australia just yet.

I think he’s much better than he’s allowed himself to look the last few weeks unfortunately. He’s playing devoid of any confidence which is causing him to reach and push for the ball.

I really hope a few young players see what’s happened and take the opportunity to play some Sheffield Shield games in the coming winters to prove themselves and gain that experience.

They don't pick overseas players for the Shield any more. I have a feeling Botham was one of the last, could be wrong.

Bones14 09-01-2022 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by art malice (Post 16201324)
That last ball from Smith was almost as bad as Cummins’ to Stokes at Headingley.

He had bowled really well up until that delivery. Especially for someone who genuinely never bowls any more.
Looked like he was trying to bowl the flipper but got it all 😑

Aki Aki Aki 09-01-2022 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE (Post 16201339)
They don't pick overseas players for the Shield any more. I have a feeling Botham was one of the last, could be wrong.

I think so ... possibly Graeme Hick as well (at Queensland?).

The Ausiies must have a good domestic set up to produce talent as they do. Hopefully the ECB might take note.

Golf Boy 09-01-2022 10:49 PM

That Gavaskar story reminds me of a house cricket match at school. 20 overs per side and Spindle decided to use the match to practice his forward defence. The lads were going nuts on the boundary “ tell your ******* brother to score some runs or ******* get out “

East-End Eagle 09-01-2022 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE (Post 16201339)
They don't pick overseas players for the Shield any more. I have a feeling Botham was one of the last, could be wrong.

Exactly, English players get very little opportunity to play anything other than big bash in Australia. We are way more accommodating in the county game. Rogers and labeshange are recent examples of when Australia needed batters who had played in England to step in.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 09-01-2022 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by East-End Eagle (Post 16201370)
Exactly, English players get very little opportunity to play anything other than big bash in Australia. We are way more accommodating in the county game. Rogers and labeshange are recent examples of when Australia needed batters who had played in England to step in.

Many come and play grade cricket in the main cities. These are strong comps and the pathway to state then national teams. For instance Smith , McGrath , Taylor and Jaques are players from my local grade club.

Bones14 10-01-2022 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by davech (Post 16200315)
Genuine question - will Silverwood be allowed into Tasmania? No 'special cases', please,

Will all depend on whether he gets through his COVID bout. Pretty sure he has it from reports. I would think after his 10 isolation they'll make a decision. I would personally doubt he'll make the trip but the rules change more often than your underwear down here.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 10-01-2022 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bones14 (Post 16201419)
Will all depend on whether he gets through his COVID bout. Pretty sure he has it from reports. I would think after his 10 isolation they'll make a decision. I would personally doubt he'll make the trip but the rules change more often than your underwear down here.

So not very often then:D

Bones14 10-01-2022 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE (Post 16201425)
So not very often then:D

Freeballer:p

RazorsEdge 10-01-2022 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE (Post 16201338)
First one day game I saw when I moved here was against India. Gavaskar batted like it was a test from ball one , and carried his bat. It got so bad that the electric scoreboard which would say ,100 needed off 10 overs , just said . Runs needed a lot. Jeez it was boring.

I have watched him play on tv albeit he was closer to retire and he was just defence defence and he used to open with Srikanth who was like a pinch hitter.

My father used to say he was politically powerful and that is why the selectors were afraid to drop him.

RazorsEdge 10-01-2022 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Golf Boy (Post 16201360)
That Gavaskar story reminds me of a house cricket match at school. 20 overs per side and Spindle decided to use the match to practice his forward defence. The lads were going nuts on the boundary “ tell your ******* brother to score some runs or ******* get out “

Lol

RazorsEdge 10-01-2022 05:45 AM

Boycott is now calling for Butterfingers to be dropped from test cricket

KYLIE MINEAGLE 10-01-2022 07:15 AM

Is he still going. Boring bat. Boring commentator . And a wanker supporter to boot. Makes Ian Chappell sound exciting.

Jordan's Jacket 10-01-2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorsEdge (Post 16201441)
Boycott is now calling for Butterfingers to be dropped from test cricket

Although I have thought for a long time that Buttler should not be playing test cricket the fact that Boycott has said it makes me question my long held view.....which broadcaster is still giving thus buffoon air time?

crystaljim 10-01-2022 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bones14 (Post 16201419)
Will all depend on whether he gets through his COVID bout. Pretty sure he has it from reports. I would think after his 10 isolation they'll make a decision. I would personally doubt he'll make the trip but the rules change more often than your underwear down here.

Does the second head/married to your cousin rules of entry to Tassie still apply Bones?

As a Yorkie Silverwood would be allowed in regardless, as that qualification over rides everything.

LuieJack 10-01-2022 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomo (Post 16201336)
Hameed probably has quite got the game to be playing in Australia just yet.

I think he’s much better than he’s allowed himself to look the last few weeks unfortunately. He’s playing devoid of any confidence which is causing him to reach and push for the ball.

I really hope a few young players see what’s happened and take the opportunity to play some Sheffield Shield games in the coming winters to prove themselves and gain that experience.

You raise some valid points regarding Hameed, but unfortunately i feel he just does not have the mental strength rather than the quality to cope at this level when the chips are down, can he overcome that aspect? is anyones guess. But then this issue possibly applies to quite a few of the England side aswell, sadly as we have seen all too often with our batting collapses an area we Must rectify asap, but then we will have to face up to the impossible task of replacing Anderson and Broad probably after this summer Tests, oh i forgot the need to find an Opening Pair plus a proper Spinner, quite an ask:rolleyes:
On our return from Australia, we will need to take a long hard look at these much needed changes and that Must start from the Top (Giles and Silverwood) as for players, i worry as the cupboard is pretty bare of genuine talent players capable of competing against the likes of India, NZ and Aussies.
To end on a bright note we will now thrash the Aussies in the last test and all will be forgotten.:)

Tomo 10-01-2022 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LuieJack (Post 16201867)
You raise some valid points regarding Hameed, but unfortunately i feel he just does not have the mental strength rather than the quality to cope at this level when the chips are down, can he overcome that aspect? is anyones guess. But then this issue possibly applies to quite a few of the England side aswell, sadly as we have seen all too often with our batting collapses an area we Must rectify asap, but then we will have to face up to the impossible task of replacing Anderson and Broad probably after this summer Tests, oh i forgot the need to find an Opening Pair plus a proper Spinner, quite an ask:rolleyes:
On our return from Australia, we will need to take a long hard look at these much needed changes and that Must start from the Top (Giles and Silverwood) as for players, i worry as the cupboard is pretty bare of genuine talent players capable of competing against the likes of India, NZ and Aussies.
To end on a bright note we will now thrash the Aussies in the last test and all will be forgotten.:)

I'd argue that Hameed has shown incredible resilience to bounce back from a broken finger that ended his early international career, and then having 2 years of terrible form has come back strong (and batted well enough in England).
He won't be the first batsman who has a lean run of form, and hopefully a few weeks away, and he'll come back firing. Look at Crawley as an example.
I think it should be remembered, that for me, Australia have the best new ball bowlers in the world.

Re: Sheffied Shield, I didn't realise that. I thought Pope had played in it, but must have been grade cricket.

RazorsEdge 10-01-2022 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16201810)
Does the second head/married to your cousin rules of entry to Tassie still apply Bones?

As a Yorkie Silverwood would be allowed in regardless, as that qualification over rides everything.

My Br in law is from Tasmania and I screen shot this to him, he was like ‘meh’

Lol


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