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Funk Butter 27-01-2017 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez (Post 13458400)
Unproven.

I hope the noise pumpers get well and truly stuffed.

And tbh, if you believe the balls were tampered with when Science disproves all accusations of it, you're either blind, ******** or both.

I guess I'm a blind ******, because isn't this science? (Guess which ones are the Colts balls)

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The Wells report physics argument, based on multiple experiments as well as theoretical modeling, runs as follows.[12]:Appendix 1, 63–68 Several conjectured sources of variability (differences in game use, alleged "vigorous rubbing" by the Patriots before play, leakage during the game, and variations in football volume) can be set aside as they have no discernable effect. Based on documented habit, as well as the recollections of referee Walt Anderson, the Patriots balls were (as usual) set around 12.5 psi, and the Colts balls around 13.0 psi, before their games. The ideal gas law shows that footballs inflated in a warm environment will drop in pressure in a cold environment; however, a football is not a thermos, and the footballs would have rapidly started to re-inflate when taken to the officials' locker room for halftime testing. (Wells estimates that the Patriots balls had 2–4 minutes to repressurize before measurements began; the measurements themselves spanned an estimated 4–5 minutes.[12]:70) Most or all of the Patriots and Colts footballs should have mostly warmed up to room temperature and substantially reinflated by the time each measurement occurred. In addition, there is a minor problem of variability: to give one example, it is hard for a temperature-based theory to explain why Patriots ball #2 tested fully 0.6 psi lower than Patriots ball #1, when both ball #1 and #2 started before the game at the same psi. If temperature is the major factor, the Patriots psi should stay roughly the same, or gradually increase, as subsequent balls are tested; instead, the psi of the footballs changed substantially from one ball to the next. (However, Wells acknowledges that the variability test does not, on its own, reach the level of statistical significance; therefore the conclusion is based on the magnitude of the drop, rather than the variability.)

Besides temperature-based deflation and the timing of the measurements, the condition of a ball's surface (wet vs. dry) also has a small but detectable effect on the measured pressure; there can also be minor measurement error caused by the gauges. During halftime, the referees used two gauges on each ball: the same Non-Logo Gauge that Wells believes to have been used by Anderson before the game to confirm the pre-game pressure, and an additional Logo Gauge. The Logo Gauge appears to consistently run at least 0.35 psi above the (accurately calibrated)[12]:Appendix 1, 45 non-Logo gauge, but both were determined to be extremely consistent and precise. In particular, the Logo gauge is inaccurate (it runs high) but is precise (it consistently runs high by the same amount every time), and therefore can be used as additional confirmation that the non-Logo measurement is correct (with the exception of Colts ball #3, below). Wells believes that Blakeman and Prioleau used the Non-Logo and Logo gauges respectively in the Patriots halftime tests, and that the two of them switched gauges with each other for the Colts halftime test.

Even with the combined effect of wet vs. dry balls, temperature-based deflation from the 50-degree Fahrenheit halftime game weather followed by partial temperature-based reinflation inside the warm locker room, and errors in measurement, Wells concluded that, while there is no absolute certainty, there is no known "set of credible environmental or physical factors that completely accounts" for the total measured air loss.
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Bones14 27-01-2017 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tsunamiman (Post 13457304)
I think the hatred for the Pats is more on belichick than brady. The patriots are basically the Man U of the NFL.

:eek: there's no hate for the Pats in my house, only:love:

Well run, well organised, well coached football team that continually finds a way to win and remain competitive. How can that not be appreciated. TB and BB are a once in a generation combination. ****en love the Pats.

GB2506 27-01-2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bones14 (Post 13458428)
:eek: there's no hate for the Pats in my house, only:love:

Well run, well organised, well coached football team that continually finds a way to win and remain competitive. How can that not be appreciated. TB and BB are a once in a generation combination. ****en love the Pats.

This!

Benzhiyi 27-01-2017 12:47 AM

Well obviously Patriots fans love the Patriots. I'd find it bizarre for any of them to proclaim otherwise.

But that doesn't dispel the Manchester United comparisons. A club who also had the greatest of all time (no denial of that from me re Belichick, by the way) running the show, that continuously found a way to win and remain competitive.

Similar trophy count. For Brady, read Giggs to an extent. For parts who did little elsewhere but looked immense in that system, I give you Phil Neville and Nicky Butt. Same attitude towards officials (clamour for every decision, bitch when they don't go your way), same refereeing bias at home at critical points of critical games, same inability to win with grace or respect when it comes to the vast majority of the fan base, present company mostly included. Especially Saxon, who's almost become sportsmanlike in his advancing years. :)

I of course accept that you'll disagree with some of the above. But this is why most rival fans would make that comparison.

kayjay 27-01-2017 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bones14 (Post 13458428)
:eek: there's no hate for the Pats in my house, only:love:

Well run, well organised, well coached football team that continually finds a way to win and remain competitive. How can that not be appreciated. TB and BB are a once in a generation combination. ****en love the Pats.

Hate them nearly as much as the Cats :supergrin:

Bones14 27-01-2017 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kayjay (Post 13458506)
Hate them nearly as much as the Cats :supergrin:

Some rep coming your way.
Very amusing. :p

Funk Butter 30-01-2017 05:17 PM

Congrats to the 49ers for continuing their "Say What?!?" hiring strategy:

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The 49ers hired former Tampa Bay Buccaneers safety John Lynch as general manager, wrapping up a nearly month-long search for a replacement after firing Trent Baalke.

Lynch, who has most recently served as an analyst on Fox, got a six-year contract from the 49ers, Adam Schefter reports. Lynch will also likely be voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Saturday.

The 49ers general manager job is Lynch’s first front office job.
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But that doesn't mean personnel people around the league weren't put off by how things turned out. Some of them have spent decades trying to work their way up the ladder to the large office that overlooks the practice fields, and they found one line in the ESPN.com story outlining how Lynch came to be a candidate particularly galling. It read: "The idea to hire Lynch was his own. He personally called Shanahan and volunteered for the job about a week ago."

Shanahan is Kyle Shanahan, who is expected to be named the 49ers' new coach following the conclusion of Super Bowl XLI. The NFL long has been known as a "it's not what you know, but who you know" league, and Lynch has known Shanahan since at least 2004, when Lynch was playing for Kyle's father, Mike, in Denver.

Funk Butter 30-01-2017 06:26 PM

I've never seen this angle of Julio's long TD from last week. Crazy o-line play here. Alex Mack has been the best free agent pickup for the Falcons, ever. (After Michael Turner)

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Funk Butter 31-01-2017 04:27 AM

Sheldon Adelson Pulls Out Of Las Vegas Stadium Deal, Throwing Raiders' Future Into Question

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Adelson was initially slated to pay for $650 million of the $1.9 billion stadium, with the state of Nevada on the hook for $750 million and the Raiders prepared to kick in half a billion. However, even after the deal was set, Adelson and Raiders owner Mark Davis were still haggling over the precise terms of their arrangement.

KSNV’s John Treanor reports that the Raiders’ confidence is “thin” after the departure of their ghoulish benefactor, while Clark County Commission chair Steve Sisolak told the Nevada Independent, “This is not a wrench in the wheel, the wheel fell off. This is an enormous setback in my opinion.”

However, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reports that the team told the Las Vegas Stadium Authority board that they had a new partner lined up should Adelson balk.

Earlier this month, team representatives told the Las Vegas Stadium Authority board the stadium’s construction would be financed with Goldman Sachs — with or without the Adelsons as partners.
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The Oakland Raiders came before the Las Vegas Stadium Authority last week with a proposed lease agreement that has sent shockwaves through our community.

It was certainly shocking to the Adelson family. We were not only excluded from the proposed agreement; we weren’t even aware of its existence.

In addition to being discouraged by the surprise submission, I was deeply disappointed for the disregard the Raiders showed our community partners, particularly UNLV, through the proposed agreement.

It’s clear the Raiders have decided their path for moving to Las Vegas does not include the Adelson family. So, regrettably, we will no longer be involved in any facet of the stadium discussion.

While this is not the result my family was hoping for, I am very appreciative of the countless people who have given considerable time and energy to this process, especially so many of our elected officials who have made this a top priority for Southern Nevada.

Funk Butter 31-01-2017 08:17 PM

Great timing Freeman, http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ike-elite-back

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In an interview with NFL.com, Freeman affirmed that he is hoping to land a contract extension after the season and conceded that sharing the workload with second-year halfback Tevin Coleman throughout the 2016 season has been a source of frustration, even as he cherishes his team's success.

"Oh, I'm certainly struggling with it, just because I'm a competitor," Freeman said. "I just want to be around the ball as much as I can, to help the team win. Now we're in the Super Bowl, and this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. I don't know how many carries or touches I'm gonna get going into this game, but I'm gonna try to make the most of every opportunity I get."

After Super Sunday, Freeman's focus will be on landing a new deal that makes him one of the league's highest-paid backs. Campbell said she has already reached out to the Falcons without receiving a response and plans to press the matter in February.
One of the league's highest-paid backs? I can't think of many teams (other than the Falcons and Patriots) where he'd be nearly as valuable. He can get a ridiculous deal from Detroit and go rush for 3 yards a carry.

Paul could speak to this but I wonder if the Patriots have ever had a guy talk about his contract the week before a Super Bowl. Freeman deserves to get a new contract but save that shit for Monday.

CT_Palace 31-01-2017 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Funk Butter (Post 13465507)
Congrats to the 49ers for continuing their "Say What?!?" hiring strategy:

Time will tell.
It can't get any worse can it?

oz_da II 31-01-2017 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CT_Palace (Post 13470261)
Time will tell.

It can't get any worse can it?


Haven't hit Cleveland Browns level.
Yet...

BB Bob 01-02-2017 08:54 AM

Browns interested in trading for Jimmy Garopollo apparently.

Funk Butter 01-02-2017 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BB Bob (Post 13471552)
Browns interested in trading for Jimmy Garopollo apparently.

If the Patriots are trading the backup to their 39-year old starter, I'd be looking all over for those red flags if I were the Browns.

pauldrulez 01-02-2017 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Funk Butter (Post 13472435)
If the Patriots are trading the backup to their 39-year old starter, I'd be looking all over for those red flags if I were the Browns.


One year left on his contract. He won't re-sign as he can start elsewhere, and Brady could go on for another 2-3 years

They really like Brissett for fighting through his injury as well.

Beckenham Boy 01-02-2017 08:43 PM

RIP to the 500 million+ chickens being prepared for superbowl day!

I assume there will be a queue of hard working Americans lining up to take that job off illegal Mexicans next year...

Funk Butter 01-02-2017 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Beckenham Boy (Post 13472875)
RIP to the 500 million+ chickens being prepared for superbowl day!

I assume there will be a queue of hard working Americans lining up to take that job off illegal Mexicans next year...

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oz_da II 01-02-2017 09:42 PM

Roger Goodell, 'We've seen high quality football on Thursday nights'

C'mon Rog... :clown:

Funk Butter 02-02-2017 08:42 PM

I've spent years trying to forget about this.


oz_da II 02-02-2017 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BB Bob (Post 13471552)
Browns interested in trading for Jimmy Garopollo apparently.


If Shanahan Jnr had his way during his stint in Cleveland...

"Kyle Shanahan liked Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo 1 and 2 for the Browns in '14. They drafted Manziel"
c/o @MaryKayCabot

Hindsight and all that but yet another QB blunder in Cleveland. It's a huge list!


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