Maybe my choice of words "Failure" could have been different as he did have some decent innings against India and then the misfortune of the finger injury. But then his form fell away hence why he got ignored eventhough we went through countless of other opening batsmen, maybe the error was by the selectors to reintroduce him into an Ashes series in Australia, but looking at his nervous and unsure approach does not bode well for an Opener and that is what i am judging him by.
Lets see what happens in the months ahead and if the selectors still have faith in him or not.

Such an excellent response, very enlightining.:rolleyes:

Except he's correct

They clearly see something in him, and have done for a while.

He looked assured vs India in the summer, and I thought he looked fine at the beginning of this series. Clearly he's struggling now but I'd not say it's going to be terminal to his england career.

Yes definitely well worth visiting and quite unique. I'm looking forwards to seeing how they Televise the Test there.

You literally said the following :

You might not like me calling that out as nonsense but it is, indeed, nonsense. He absolutely, completely lost form after his finger injury but in November 2016, everyone was clearly very impressed with his batting in the 3 Tests in India.

In fact, here's what Virat Kohli had to say at the time about the then 19 year old...

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/v...e-rise-1069768

Are you Two joined at the hip.:rolleyes:

At least 5 posters have disagreed with your statement.:wallbash:

No? I don't understand the question.

More pink ball day-night nonsense coming up. Why? Just...why???

$$$$$

I see Joe Root has given his backing to Silverwood. That's another decade of Ashes misery :p

Well, I suppose he has to say that (in public, at least)

But **** me, we need to get rid of Silverwood ASAP.

He deserves to be sacked, just on his decision to leave Broad out of the 1st and 3rd tests, alone:clown:

Given Root has no say on the appointment of the Head coach it's kind of irrelevant what he says

To keep it in the same time slot as the Perth Test would have been for broadcast purposes (so ultimately $$$, as suggested already).

I've no issues with the Day/Night matches. I'm glad to see Test cricket is doing something to move on and develop.

What i find mental, is all this talk about rotation and resting players, is that Stokes, the player who'd played the least over the last year is the one we've not chosen to rest/rotate.

What time is everyone planning on getting up tomorrow? I'm toying with a 5am alarm but realise 'lunch' will probably be at 6

I’ll set it for 6 and take the dog for a walk through the “dinner break” so I’m back for the middle session. but imagine I’ll get up about 5 to go for a piss and justo go downstairs to watch it.

I am up already but the rain seems to have reached Hobart and toss has been delayed

Root wins toss and puts Australia in.

WTF Anderson left out. Bairstow unfit (thumb)

Duck for Dave

Duck for Dave

I couldn’t believe it


Lagershandy is dropped and I think Crawley should have left that for Root, hope this drop does not cost us too much

Duck for Steve.

Get in and Ussie is gone

12-3

I thought I had woken up but am obviously still asleep and in the midst of a dream. In my dream Australia are 12-3.

England bowling really well but Australia already 24-3. Probably enough for a 1st innings lead…

Game over 29-3

5:20 it happened

Aus 30-3 & still 4/6 to win the Test match….

I set mine for 6.25, as I thought the session would be 4-6am. Downstairs with a coffee at 6.30. Turn TV on and they're walking off for 'lunch'.

Fuming

I am not laughing at the way lagershandy got dismissed as I had something similar happen to me in nets many years ago lol

Would have been 4 if not for dropped catch

Just got up - when I saw the score I assume it was England batting.

BBC live text are going mental saying how it's the most extraordinary dismissal you'll ever see.

Am I alone in thinking it's not that extraordinary? They're saying he got his feet completely tangled, fell over and then got bowled as a result. It doesn't look like it to me. The ball was past him by the time he 'fell over'. He just completely misjudged it, gets bowled and falls over. I'm not even sure he slipped. His feet didn't get tangled. It looks like he threw himself to the floor for some bizarre reason.

For anyone who hasn't seen Labushagne getting out, it was a cross between Burns first ball of the series and Wood bowling an effort ball.

https://twitter.com/btsportcricket/s...76124858781696

Yeah, he was batting on off-stump and he planted his front foot another 2 ft outside off to a ball hitting middle <s> and leg</s>. The fall occurred as he tried to reach back for the ball as it was going past him.

Bowled middle stump.

He misjudged it pure and simple and some poetic license was taken by the bbc

Hahaha

Yup

Starting with the expensive Wood after lunch

Why is Robinson bowling so slowly?!

Edit: injured. FFS.

There’s been a few hints that Robinson needs to work on his fitness.

I know anyone can get injured but it’s not useful.

If only England had some right arm fast-medium to bring into the attack.

1 over of 70mph dollies after the break then off and not seen again.

Less than ideal. And still haven't seen Broad yet.

When they got to 100, Skybet were offering 5/2 on next wicket to fall at over 150.

Easy money.

WTF is Gower banging on about. Tit

Well played! :p

I was just typing "Normal service well and truly resumed" and the wicket fell :)

They will still go on to get 325 which will give them a first innings lead of about 100 as we struggle to get 200 again.

I have got 6/1 on Root scoring a ton. Feel he is due.

Oh, yes, undoubtedly. In fact, you might be being optimistic.

It's good to see England playing with pride and showing a real fight, a pity Wood's bowling was poor giving them easy runs. However take nothing away from the superb Travis Head and if not for him and now Green assuming we dont allow him also to get a century, then we would be in a really strong position.
Now we await to see how our batsmen respond and that is always impossible to predict.

Problem is that all their batsmen seem capable of doing this - and one or two generally do in each innings. Until the last test, only Root looked capable of getting past 50

Marnus.................................I would've been bowled out as well mate..........................but not with that stupid ****en shot.................idiot.

I don't understand why Wood was picked to play on a green wicket in overcast conditions. Some really bizarre decisions on this tour.

Whoever sets the odds at Skybet clearly isn't a follower of the England cricket team. We are the masters of letting a good position get away from us.

Is jimmy injured?

No idea but this pitch and these conditions seem tailor-made for him

You would have to think so. It's a pitch that suits him. Would be bizarre if he was fit and not picked.

Especially as he's been previously rested.

Anyway, off for rain now which helps my 3-0/3-1 bets a little....

In other news (not, I appreciate, specifically related to 2021 Ashes), Tom Harrison seems to have finally woken up to what we've all been saying for ages about red-ball cricket in England....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59945358

Steve Harmison via a note to David Gower on commentary said he is

Yes.

That is very true, as just when you think you have got them on the ropes you get Green come in and turn it around again, at least he's out before any real damage if he had got to a century.:)
We can only hope that our batsmen put smiles back on our faces after what has been a dismal series.

Burns run out 0, bloody awful cricket .

It was a wrong call by Zac there was no single there and direct hit by lagershandy. Burns had no luck

It was school boy running. Smith or Labuschagne would have dived for that .

Another stellar contribution from the Surrey captain I see.

Brilliant stuff. What a player.

Going to struggle to avoid the follow on chasing 300.

An England batting collapse. Never saw that coming.

Another stellar contribution from Worky, I see.

Brilliant stuff. What a poster.

Yeah it’s a puzzler for sure.

I have a small amount of sympathy for our middle order. They are constantly coming in facing a relatively new ball because our openers can’t hang around for more than a few deliveries. You will win very few test matches with shit opening batsman.

Cheers :p

This simply has to be the final test match for a lot of players & staff.

Disgrace is a strong word but this is a disgrace.

The pitch is too green for a non English Test.

Over to you Sam

The comeback is on! Centuries for each of these lads. We bowl the Aussies out for 150 meaning we are chasing about 50 and then we get bowled out for 37.

He was miles away (mentally) and yes I agree

Sold down the river by Crawley unfortunately.

There is a good chance of this happening, however a odds on innings defeat by tomorrow lunch is on too

What a joke. Once again the bowlers give us a chance only for the batsmen to come up short.

Pfft :D

You’ve already pissed people off on here this morning. Nb. Olympian’s response to you twenty minutes ago.

What do you get out of it?

How long before you start moaning about being followed? You’re such a bore.

:D

I can’t be bothered today Richard.

Play with yourself. It’s so tedious. Bye.

:D

Don't agree. It's Crawleys call, which he does at once. Burns was slow off the mark his attempt to make his ground was as I posted school boy. Makes no odds ,he went and Crawley was'nt far behind. I don't know why they don't just open with Malan save a lot of bother.

Pope could be decent, but until he leaves better outside off stump he should not be selected

Give it is rest you two, stick to cricket.

Pope is a good young batter, we must stick with him as part of the future along with Captain Sam

Yes, he does have potential and I agree

I would suggest Leach the nightwatchman to open, he can do a better job than any of these openers we have at the moment (it is sad to see a tailender who has better technique than a opener)

Burns sets off slowly and even hesitates. If he does what he should do, he gets home comfortably. Nothing wrong with the call for a single, it was on. Schoolboy running.

Agree with this, he has flaws but his technique generally good and we need to stick with him in the test side and let him make his mistakes and learn. These days there is nowhere else to learn and its not as if he is keeping a good alternative batsmen out

I’m not going to be far off

Fair and now the frustration of him getting out like that again has passed I tend to agree. Same as how we should probably stick with Crawley and Hameed too

We are going to go a 5 test series and not score 300 in an innings. It’s so bad.

Embarrassing I think is the word you’re looking for. Bad works as well I suppose.

You are more or less spot on

ECB bloke wants our players to play Sheffield Shield. Fair request in my opinion as it's been very one sided for decades. If the ACB don't agree, stop allowing the Aussie cricketers to spend every summer in England. If we did stop overseas players playing in country cricket, home Test series would certainly be more favourable to England, maybe even to the tune of 5-0 in the Ashes with conditions so unique and alien.