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stinky 28-11-2021 10:24 AM

England bowler Wood 'would love to stick one up' Australia and 'this baggy green thing'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59389486

That's us losing 5-0 then

davech 28-11-2021 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by stinky (Post 16123788)
England bowler Wood 'would love to stick one up' Australia and 'this baggy green thing'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59389486

That's us losing 5-0 then

Not until The Big Game Hunter says so....

Worksop Palace 28-11-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stinky (Post 16123788)
England bowler Wood 'would love to stick one up' Australia and 'this baggy green thing'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59389486

That's us losing 5-0 then

Hmmm, not sure I like that sort of bravado. Within the group, yes. To the press, no. Setting yourself up for a fall.

Olympian2 28-11-2021 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 16123821)
Hmmm, not sure I like that sort of bravado. Within the group, yes. To the press, no. Setting yourself up for a fall.

Quite. It’s a brainless comment. Keep your mouth shut & grab yourself a five-fer, if you can stay fit long enough.

art malice 28-11-2021 11:10 AM

Just been listening to the TMS special on all the massive amounts of prep that’s gone into this from England. Kiboshed in an instant by old poppadom legs.

stinky 28-11-2021 11:24 AM

Yeah but Gr8 Banter tho innit. Can't wait for his video blog from Australia with all the top Banter from 'Woody' and Co.

art malice 28-11-2021 11:28 AM

I like me Jimmy Nail, Stokesy loves his PJ and Duncans and Rash is reet into his cooking. It’s mad.

Tomo 29-11-2021 03:53 PM

Jeez. Think some of you are over reacting a bit to that comment.

It's only on the BBC site because they're promoting the podcast it was said on.

Those comments aren't going to make or break the way this series goes.

Aki Aki Aki 30-11-2021 08:55 AM

Another warm up day washout overnight. Weather continues to play a big part in preparations, looks as though England could potentially be severely undercooked going into the first Test.

Worksop Palace 30-11-2021 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Aki Aki Aki (Post 16125796)
Another warm up day washout overnight. Weather continues to play a big part in preparations, looks as though England could potentially be severely undercooked going into the first Test.

I don’t recall a series abroad when England haven’t been undercooked

Worksop Palace 30-11-2021 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomo (Post 16124872)
Jeez. Think some of you are over reacting a bit to that comment.

It's only on the BBC site because they're promoting the podcast it was said on.

Those comments aren't going to make or break the way this series goes.

Maybe not. Just unnecessary fuel to the oppositions fire. Just stick the article on the dressing room wall.

crystaljim 30-11-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 16125797)
I don’t recall a series abroad when England haven’t been undercooked

I miss the days when there were a minimum of 3 warm up games before the first test on Ashes tours.

I saw a few county grounds I would never have visited without those games.

Olympian2 30-11-2021 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Aki Aki Aki (Post 16125796)
Another warm up day washout overnight. Weather continues to play a big part in preparations, looks as though England could potentially be severely undercooked going into the first Test.

Australis haven't played a Test match in 11 months. But yes, at least they're playing some red ball cricket.

Hopefully the rubbish weather continues so we avoid the 5-0.

MCG going to get 2 Tests now that Perth looks dodgy, lockdown-wise?

KYLIE MINEAGLE 30-11-2021 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16125800)
I miss the days when there were a minimum of 3 warm up games before the first test on Ashes tours.

I saw a few county grounds I would never have visited without those games.

Got to get the serious stuff out of the way pdq . So the hit and giggle can be got into .

crystaljim 30-11-2021 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16125809)
Australis haven't played a Test match in 11 months. But yes, at least they're playing some red ball cricket.

Hopefully the rubbish weather continues so we avoid the 5-0.

MCG going to get 2 Tests now that Perth looks dodgy, lockdown-wise?


Your wish on the weather may come true, a very wet summer has been predicted.

Both sides underdone. Only 5 Australians in the Test squad have actually played Red ball cricket in the last 6 months.
None of the 20/20 squad have played yet.

Olympian2 30-11-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16125814)
Your wish on the weather may come true, a very wet summer has been predicted.

Both sides underdone. Only 5 Australians in the Test squad have actually played Red ball cricket in the last 6 months.
None of the 20/20 squad have played yet.

Mad, isn't it? But I would expect the Aussies to be able to adapt quickest to home conditions, especially the bowlers.

I think batting wise, it's simply a contest of Smith & Labuschagne vs Root. The others - on both sides - are, on the whole, just chaff.
Bowling wise, it's a different story.

crystaljim 30-11-2021 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16125823)
Mad, isn't it? But I would expect the Aussies to be able to adapt quickest to home conditions, especially the bowlers.

I think batting wise, it's simply a contest of Smith & Labuschagne vs Root. The others - on both sides - are, on the whole, just chaff.
Bowling wise, it's a different story.

Agree on the batting. Although world cricket is blessed with some exceptional bowling attacks right now. Groups that hunt in packs, perhaps we are giving current batting lineups a bad rap.

Prince Phillip 30-11-2021 09:29 AM

Always makes me slightly shudder for contemporary Ashes tours when you hear that England's army of analysts have organised and modelled the trip down to the last bowl of muesli. Never really seems to help.
Fat Gatt's "Can't Bat, Can't Bowl, Can't Field" clean-sweepers of 1986/7 only had about 3 back-up staff with them (and one of those was the coach driver who didn't really like cricket anyway)

Olympian2 30-11-2021 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16125826)
Agree on the batting. Although world cricket is blessed with some exceptional bowling attacks right now. Groups that hunt in packs, perhaps we are giving current batting lineups a bad rap.

Spot on. Without knowing about injury, form etc. I'm guessing that we'll see Hazelwood, Starc, Cummins & Lyon playing - & taking 20 wickets - regularly. Naming the Aus attack is easy enough.

I'm not sure England know their best bowling attack. Broad & Anderson, for sure, although of course the latter only bowled 4 overs in the whole of the 2019 series. Stokes, yes, but he's almost an accidental bowler these days. The role of 3rd pace bowler & spinner are very much undecided. Neither Wood & Archer are reliable, fitness-wise. Can't see Overton or Curran being effective Down Under. Woakes is a victim of the ongoing squad-rotation. I guess there are high hopes for Robinson who bowled really well in English conditions this summer.

Spinner-wise, I can't see Leach & Bess taking 10 wickets between them in the whole series. Neither of them can hold an end down.

I expect we'll see England play Anderson, Broad, Robinson, Woakes & Stokes in the 1st Test with Root as 'the spinner'.

All this just emphasises just how good the England pack of Hoggard, Harmison, Flintoff, Jones & Giles were in 2005. They really worked well as a collective unit.

Jordan's Jacket 30-11-2021 11:28 AM

Woakes is our best bowler avaiable. He has to play


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