He lives in Chile. They haven't reached the 80s yet.

Said Louise Minchin never :)

She could merrily say it to me and I am sure I would oblige happily

Your eyesight seems to be failing Pete, there’s no white trousers in that advert. ;)

I wish.

People who get off at Brixton national rail station in the height of rush hour with masses of luggage or a bike and don't wait for all the other commuters to get down the stairs first, instead taking about 5 minutes to get them down and holding everyone up.

Rather than be a gritty, realistic, hard hitting documentary style depiction of women suffering through their menstruations, I think the aim of these ads is to suggest, in perhaps a slightly exaggerated manner, that women using these Tampax products can do whatever they want with confidence - even if there is a Red Sea raging between their legs.

People driving around with their wing mirrors folded in....... makes you think doesn’t it.

Insomnia.

Those were just a few ads. All of them had people wearing white clothes and playing sports. I can find more if you like.

You had a little dig, you were wrong again, and again you fail to put your hands up to it.

Do I really need to find more? It is a common theme.

I mentioned rollerskating babes in my original post as well.

Well, you could try finding some with the white trousers that you were complaining about…

And then you could try finding some from this century…

I feel your pain (well lack of sleep) as I have had iy going on for at least 5 weeks now.

I've tried everything

Nothing stressing me out

No caffine before bed (tea drinker)

No smoking (actually given up a couple of days ago)

Valerium

Lavender

New £30 pillows (mum in law purchase)

New mattress

Blacked out curtains (thought it could be the new LED street lights that have shone through the window where the tree was blocking it)

Ear defenders (live just off of a dual carriageway that gets used as a race track at night, again where the trees blocked out the sound plus the wife snores terribly)

Kalms

Doctors prescribed anti hystamins which are supposed to be sedative. (didn't like them as they made me feel very agitated and on edge the next day)

And finally prescribed sleeping tablets which has worked more often then not but you can't have them re prescribed as you get hooked.

Funnily enough when I gave in one night before the meds I went downstairs and slept on the sofa and didn't have a problem (most nights) and then ended up spending 3 weeks on there but it was getting depressing so that's when I got the sleeping tabs, have also slept on the kids beds when there not here and slept but again on/off.

I tried again last night without taking a tablet but succumb after an hour and a half, popped one then went to sleep but very broken.

Tonight I will watch the game then kip on the sofa unaided hopefully as I'm saving some tabs for over christmas at the mother in laws as that's another place were I can't seem to sleep.

Hope you get it sorted pal cos it's horrible.

I had it for a while. Found I slept a lot better when I took all the electronic devices out of the room. Maybe it's the waves or something.

I've read something similar along the lines of leads behind the head end of the bed which I haven't got and I don't take my devices upstairs but my wife has to fall asleep to her audiobook so kinda screwed with that.

Also storing stuff under your bed because you "worry that it's there"

And having you're feet pointing at the door in bed?

Please don't, searching youtube for historic Tampax adverts to prove a point is tragic enough.

When does PeterH's self-awareness kick in?

Yeah the feet thing is to go with feng shui or something I think. Something to do with not facing a certain direction. Youre kind of screwed if the doors in the wrong place though eh.

We've got loads of crap under the bed. Don't know what an audio book is. Tell her to buy normal books ;) Maybe you need less sleep as you get older. I won't get much tonight as on the <sleeper> train.

Couple of things. Tea contains caffeine. And not stressed, yet given up the fags? Well done if so.

Its a funny thing about sleeping on sofas. Very common. It is almost building up the bedroom as a place where subconsciously you resent failing to get the sleep a person needs. So actually makes it more frustrating lying there tossing and turning, when everything is perfect - dark and quiet etc.

When I have had periods of sleep problems (never severe luckily), I found initially limiting my sleep time was useful. I 'need' 7 hours but would just set my mind on 4 or 5 as a target and then expand that gradually. I found as long as I had 'core' sleep, without waking up, I was OK.

I am also a big believer in no electronic shit in the bedroom. In fact, when I have had issues, in the past I tend to take myself away (not to the bedroom) for a read an hour or two before bedtime.

2hrs before bed I meant to add but still some good advice thanks.

Are you over weight? What is your general diet like?

When my sleep apnea was diagnosed a few months back, weight issues was highlighted as a real possibility as being a contributing factor. I went on a juicing only diet for a couple of days, then had one healthy meal and one healthyish snack along with juicing for a few weeks afterwards. My sleep improved greatly, losing 10kg in the process.

I now am less strict so my weight fluctuates, but when I allow my bad dietary habits to kick in on any particularly day my sleep suffers.

I know everyone is different, and I am talking about sleep apnea, but I do feel my sleep problems also have an element of psychological about them as when the apnea got so bad and therefore became more noticeable to me a worry about sleeping also took hold.

All sensible stuff. Quitting smoking can cause insomnia for the first few weeks of abstinence.

A little i would say and leading to this had been on the rise.

Diet not the best, I'm more of a skip breakfast/lunch and have a bigger dinner.

When he´s had his period.

Like I say everyone is different, so may not apply to you but in my case eating late at night a heavy meal, with something sweet to follow the meal 90% of the time leads to a bad nights sleep.

Surfing on the north coast of Spain, chilling in your own hut and spending matchdays shooting the shit with Biggus and I on skype is not mispent time....you doofus.

Which I think we are establishing is the 70s.

But wearing white trousers or not wearing white trousers........and roller boots
?

Definitely 80's that.

Probably go well with the k Swiss mate....:cool:;)

Hmmmm.......

"Beneteke"

Approaching my wife in the first couple of days is like trying to take a lump of meat from a hungry tiger.

Please be informed: I haven't tried the latter.

In respect of what. I posted something I found odd in the world of advertising, TBF not annoying personally, then get taken to task for it by Maz. On top of that a few others chose to have a pop.

I should just let that slide, should I.

If people want to stop me being annoying they should stop poking me with the pokey stick. It is not a complicated bit of joined up thinking.

Alternatively, they want me to stop posting at all. Well just say so en masse, and I am gone. That is not complicated either.

:p

Essential footwear for train drivers mate.

About that chat....:D

:D

Ive already ordered you some, dont panic ;)

BBSers that re-iterate time and again that you aren't allowed to express an opinion about Palace because you don't go to games.

I can get that if you are referring to someone that has never been to a game.

But really, it is all 'better' supporter nonsense, isn't it. And, for me, it weakens any argument to the point they are not worth bothering with.

The same can be said about those that try and silence commentary on politics or tax systems or Brexit with the same argument. Generally, they chose not to attack the points raised, but attack the poster instead.

Weak, weak, weak. And frequently annoying.

Cling film roll tearing on unraveling.

Not too sure this is entirely true. It's more that it's foolish to express a general opinion on a player's contribution based on what you (or indeed I, in the case of most away matches) have seen on a screen.

For instance anyone who says - as many have (and you?) - that Benteke did nothing right in the Bournemouth match really should not be opining so vigorously. He was crucial. Sadly (because I'd like to be as full of ire as the next man).

Currently going through a career change. Transitioning over to a new team/department.

One guy on my current team doesn't want me to leave and is making it very difficult, he's more senior than me so until I complete the move to the new department I can't go against him. This afternoon I was supposed to be doing some training for my new role but he has complained to my current boss about the time I'm spending away from my desk with the new team and said a task that I usually do is super urgent and has to be done this afternoon/evening, I could easily do this job tomorrow or at any point during the remainder of the week but he has insisted it be done now which not only is taking me away from the training but is now going to make me late to the Clifton for pre-game beers tonight.

Sorry Maz, I should have explained this better. I am not talking about games.

I can fully understand it regarding evaluating performances on the pitch or even incidents in the stands TBF. I get that watching multiple games live probably give a better impression of the overall passages of play and individual contributions off the ball. I still think those watching on a stream or TV have a right to a voice. Many comment as such - as in 'my view albeit from a shit stream'. Also, I feel people can better concentrate on a single player's performance or even evaluate whether the ref and especially linesmen are doing an effective job, much better than a TV viewer.

I am talking about having an opinion about transfers, scouting, club management, the police, bangers and flares etc..

I think those away from games can still offer an opinion, offer some solidarity etc. We are all Palace fans, and this is a discussion board. Palace is likely the number one hobby and passion for nearly all. How can you you seriously use a discussion board and then get upset when people disciuss things in a way you don't agree with. It is an attempt at censorship of opinions you don't like. It is like the morons that repost anti-muslim memes, and then tell you you don't understand the impact because you 'fecked off out of it'. As sure as eggs is eggs, these people are not overly impacted by muslims either. They are certainly not impacted by 100 muslims praying in a street in Bethnal Gree when they live in Dartford. But the image gets them incensed, and that people should ask them why makes them even angrier. Because then they have to start to think about it.

Pressing a share button, or posting that 'supporters that don't go to games can't have an opinion' just doesn't take any thinking at all.

But when you are told you can't show solidarity with fans wronged by BHA and the police or criticise some of what SP does, or see that 45 quid for a match ticket is just wrong, it is grating. Do you extend that to not being allowed to criticise Shearer, or Talksport, or not being allowed to call Man Utd wankers? Are you not allowed to say that you love fish and chips or yorkshire puds, because you don't eat them anymore or at least not very often.

It is absurd.

Yeah righto - You better hope your bluff aint called :supergrin:

For all the insomniacs on here (me included) look on the bright side it’s only three more sleeps until Christmas.

I didn't take you to task, you sensitive sausage. I merely pointed out that what you had written was factually incorrect and out of date.

TBH. The way I feel with a few things atm, I couldn't care less.

Not seemingly in Chile LOL. It was only a few years back that some presenter on primetime TV here refused a black man chocolate fingers because it would be like canibalism. A lot of TV here includes enhanced women in bikinis.

I am not sure what is out of date anymore. Is the existence of Trump or Brexit an out of date attitude. 5 years back most would have said so.

Going back to my earlier post. It seems a strange attitude to suggest you have more of a right to an opinion as you go to games up and down the country. I think recent events prove that your opinions and even rights are not important when it really matters.

A good number of Palace's most ardent travelling and home supporters were left standing in the cold and then marched concentration camp style to cattle truck trains. Even their own club's response has been shabby. The best Palace have come up with in this fight is that they will ship the troublesome fans down in coaches. Treating the best of our fans as potentially problem supporters who don't derve the liberty as functioning, responsable adults of making their own decisions on a leisure activity. Can you imaginne the same rules being applied to cinema goers or those who like to eat at nice restaurants.

In the grand scheme of things the opinion of someone with 5,000 Parish points waving a ticket in the cold air has about as much weight as someone posting from Santiago in their underpants. I would have less chance of getting arrested for that opinion TBH.

If our own Club don't think you matter, then TBF you probably don't.

Elgin has been abused for his opinions recently, and he travels 10 times the distance than most for home games. Work that one out.

Elgin? Pah!

PeterH you are confusing light hearted banter with being taken to task.

You are one of us, blud (Jamaican patois not its British misinterpretation)

I rarely watch live TV, but when I do this advert pisses me right off. Those of you south of the border are lucky.

How right you are.

As bad as bad gets.

I am tired, and I talk too much (or type too much).

Time to go into the shell for a while.

Been having that one flung at me for the 15 years I´ve been out here, I just treat them with the disdain they deserve.

Bit of a niche one but currently Daniel Tiger's Neighbourhood on Netflix.

Saccharine moralising Yankee bullocks about feelings and being nice and shite fronted by an annoying tit of a tiger who won't stop breaking into auto tuned song every 30 seconds.

Obviously my daughter is currently obsessed with it.

Oh FFS Pete, just take a step back and stop thinking that every comment on your posts is a dig at you. I found it funny that there were no white trousers in the advert you posted to justify your earlier post - yes I did notice that there was some roller skating, but you’d mentioned that so no humour to be found there - so I pointed it out.

If this thread was a conversation amongst us in a pub would you be reacting like this?

My wife going Christmas shopping and taking my phone with her.

Being at a self-evaluation day speeches session and getting stressed when they talk about stress even though I dont suffer from stress.

How does that work, you ask?

I will go into the in and outs of why my employers are *****ubbles later, if anyone is at all interested.

The first speech was great, but the second one got me thinking. The microphone was passed around various participants, and they all came out with pithy, minor workplace stresses that a 10 year old could cope with. All the while I was thinking whether I should take the microphone and say that the only damn thing that stresses me is the utter contempt with which the organisation treats its 5,000 teaching staff.

I bit my tongue, took a look at the ingrained job for life arselickers sitting in the front row, and got up and left.

I feel better for it.

I’m not sure you can pull Pete up for his response being ‘out of date’.

When it happened has no relevance to whether it happened or not.

As you were.

Any plans? :D

Approaching the wife or the tiger?

Might give the tiger a go.

Going to ring my wife using her phone now, asking where she is with mine.

This will end up with me being in the wrong.

Very good

Well obviously I meant the latter.

At least you’d have a fighting chance with a tiger.

If I'd spent more than 8 months doing thst, I'd agree.

It's the time trying to subscribe to other people's agendas that I consider misspent.

Office grazers

Slippery floors, all that ice and this feckin idiot goes down like a sack of shit on a wet floor indoors :supergrin:

Not an awful lot at this particular moment in time.

Buzzing.

What do you think of office grazers, PeterH? They're usually middle class, with middle class lifestyles entailing lots of exercise and eschewing things like starch. And because they expend so much energy in exercise but don't eat starch, they have to constantly munch away at everything but. I worked with one recently, and she would eat salad for breakfast. You could call it eggs Florentine, but it was essentially salad for breakfast. After that she'd just stuff her face constantly with faddy crap from health stores, and she'd use whatever she was stuffing her face with as useful conversation starters with other grazers, probably out of solidarity.

Thanks for all the feedback, fellow insomniacs. It's something I've lived with since infancy with varying degrees of annoyance for me and my various companions.

I actually have a routine that works quite well at getting me off, and a method for coping with the sleeplessness when it doesn't. But, even then, there are factors (internal and external) that I have no apparent control over that can undo all the good work.

It is annoying, frustrating and, sometimes, debilitating.

Was she, of a more generous proportion per chance, despite her interest in healthy eating?

Terrible insomniac here. At the moment, I like to put 'midnight thunderstorm' on the TV - nine hours of a close up of some leaves swaying in the wind and rain at night, with rumbling thunder in the background. Courtesy of Amazon Prime tv

Can barely sleep with a TV in the room, let alone turned on.

People who travel with infants and act as though they should not, in any way, be inconvenienced by it. Thus, massively inconveniencing everyone else.

People practicing "controlled crying" in public.

I can imagine the type. But I have not really come across them. There seems to be so many fad diets. As you say, no carbs requires constant eating. I am surprised she found time for work.

Women who obsess over Prosecco and have bags that say things like "oops all I brought was Prosecco when I went out to buy bread". Everyone knows you only drink it because you can't afford champagne and you think drinking some other sparkly old shit gives you the status of a proper "lady"

Never tried it. Not a fan of the sparkling in any case.

Anyone for a babycham?

It shows how marketing works. Advertised as a notch up on wine (which is isn't, really) so people get all excited over it.

Hope you've got some in for Mrs Montana over Christmas :love::D:afro:

Michael Buble and his shitty christmas covers

Not just Micky Bubble, but all similar Christmas albums.

EFA

They may also call it "bubbles" to hide that it's not the real stuff

I sense that you might like to roast his chestnuts on an open fire?

Shows what divs they are when they dont know the difference between "Bought" and "Brought"´when purchasing amusing shopping bags

Its repackaged Lambrusco

If they brought a bottle of anything alcoholic with them when they went out shopping they might have a problem...

Whatever happened to Asti Spumanti? :)

Alexander Armstrong, anyone?

Didn't he sign for Fulham?

Plus: Bradley Walsh, Shane Ritchie, Jason Mansford, kiefer sutherland, Alistair McGowan, nick knowles and will smiths wife.

Fuuuuuuuck offffffff

Now Prosecco

The word ‘nourishing’.

Fvck off

The fact that I keep killing headphones over and over again in ever more ridiculous ways. In ear, over ear. Whatever. The ****ers are line Spinal Tap drummers. It's bloody annoying.

Humourless Slovaks who take offence to me wearing a Russian Army furry hat.

Give 'em a slap from me. Feckwit phobes.

Blue Nun through the Sodastream.

The colleague next to me on her work phone going on and on every day about her house purchase.

My boss who after going away for three weeks on holiday is in for two days before going off sick because she has a bit of a cough.

Work emails from senior management saying we are winding down for Christmas when I just get given more and more work to do.

+ Will Smith