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jlmatthews 04-11-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
What about Hester?
Did he return a missed FG?

Strathclyde Eagle 04-11-2007 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LLCOOLSTEVE
What about Hester?
I thought Vasher's was two years ago.

Hester's return of a missed FG (against the Giants at Giants Stadium) was 107 I think.

jlmatthews 04-11-2007 09:06 PM

Could have been. Either way... today's was the longest play in NFL history.

EDIT -- You're right Tony. Now that I think about it... Vasher's was two years ago against San Fran -- Windy as hell in Chicago that afternoon. Orton was QB that game

LLCOOLSTEVE 04-11-2007 09:09 PM

Chicago 38, NY Giants 20
Preview - Box Score - Recap

By TOM CANAVAN, AP Sports Writer
November 13, 2006

EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) -- Standing eight yards deep in the end zone with the ball, Devin Hester couldn't believe his eyes -- the New York Giants were actually walking off the field.

He had just gathered in Jay Feely's field-goal attempt in the fourth quarter, a kick that fell short. But the Chicago Bears' return specialist wasn't going to go sprinting off just yet.


He gave the Giants a few extra seconds to vacate.

And with that, Hester was off to the races, giving the Chicago Bears the inside track on NFC title with a record-tying 108-yard romp that was the knockout blow in a 38-20 victory over the injury-ravaged Giants in their NFC showdown Sunday night

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/recap?gid=20061112019

Chester 04-11-2007 09:13 PM

He only just caught it as well it was a fantastic return

GSG cpfc 04-11-2007 09:31 PM

Just announced, WR Marvin Harrison and Right Tackle Tony Ugoh inactive for Colts. Ugoh out is good news for our defense, we might have more opportunities to get to Manning.

As I said previously Watson is active and starts. Wilson and Morris the big outs for us.

jlmatthews 04-11-2007 09:41 PM

Shawn Rodgers -- Big DT for Detroit just had a 67 yard INT return for a TD. Great stiff arm and dive into the endzone :D

Chester 04-11-2007 10:02 PM

Chad Johnson being taken off in an ambulance

Doesnt look too hot.

Had to be in Buffalo as well

jlmatthews 04-11-2007 10:22 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4RBeoPauVb0


Wish the damn Lions game would get over!!!!!

jlmatthews 04-11-2007 10:37 PM

Pats go three and out... don't score on their first possesion for the first time all year

Chester 04-11-2007 10:46 PM

Indy looking v good but Pats have managed to keep them out so far

jlmatthews 04-11-2007 10:47 PM

It's going to really hurt Indy that Harrison is out. For the obvious reason... but also because they can key on Wayne. Moorehead and Gonzalez are not very good.

Chester 04-11-2007 11:01 PM

Go Pats

Randy Moss is the Dogs danglies this season!

jlmatthews 04-11-2007 11:04 PM

This just feels like a post season game. The intensity is up there!

Grim Reaper 04-11-2007 11:24 PM

Christ, The Jets' rookie David Harris notched up 20 tackles today.

Is that high or REALLY high? Can't find anyone else with more than 11 on my quick look thus far.

Grim Reaper 04-11-2007 11:25 PM

Anyone getting caught up in the hype of the Colts game and backing o56.5 must be questioning their judgment right now!!

LLCOOLSTEVE 04-11-2007 11:29 PM

really high

jlmatthews 04-11-2007 11:37 PM

Wow. Addai is the man this game so far.

LLCOOLSTEVE 04-11-2007 11:40 PM

187 total yards, Rushing/Receiving

jlmatthews 04-11-2007 11:41 PM

Still got a ways to go if he wants to equal Adrian Peterson's rushing yards today :eek:

Strathclyde Eagle 05-11-2007 12:05 AM

Peterson's a beast. Probably would have gone top three had he not been injured in his senior year at OU.

Strathclyde Eagle 05-11-2007 12:11 AM

Sidney Rice was a great WR at South Carolina too. Good draft for the Vikings this year. If they want a mobile QB does anyone reckon they trade up and try and get Woodson from Kentucky?

jlmatthews 05-11-2007 12:15 AM

I'm not sold on him as a pro QB yet...

I think McFadden is going to be an awesome pro...

Chester 05-11-2007 12:17 AM

Brady runs like a mincing duck

jlmatthews 05-11-2007 12:17 AM

That's why they pay him to throw it ;)

Strathclyde Eagle 05-11-2007 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlmatthews
I'm not sold on him as a pro QB yet...

I think McFadden is going to be an awesome pro...

Similar senior year to Peterson too. Someone's going to get a bargain I think.

jlmatthews 05-11-2007 12:39 AM

I'm surprised by the amount Peyton has been under center and not in the shotgun on third downs.

Benzhiyi 05-11-2007 12:46 AM

What a time for Sky to lose the feed!!

I see (via NFL.com) Indy scored a TD on that drive.

jlmatthews 05-11-2007 12:48 AM

Yeah Peyton sneak... Brady just connected with Moss on a bomb... first and goal

jlmatthews 05-11-2007 12:48 AM

You want me to keep updating?

Bob Sanders down hurt... ball on the three... timeout

Chester 05-11-2007 12:51 AM

Some dubious penalties against Moss in this game

Chester 05-11-2007 12:56 AM

TD Patriots

jlmatthews 05-11-2007 01:05 AM

Penalties killed that drive...

jlmatthews 05-11-2007 01:09 AM

Browns v Seattle is a great game right now too...

Chester 05-11-2007 01:15 AM

Cheeky little spike there

:D

Grim Reaper 05-11-2007 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jlmatthews
Browns v Seattle is a great game right now too...
I need a Seattle TD

OR a

FG now and a FG in OT will do

Sweating buckets on this

Grim Reaper 05-11-2007 01:19 AM

And to think I took Moss out of my Fantasy team this week because I thought it would be too tough for him to get points!!

Grim Reaper 05-11-2007 01:20 AM

OOOOOH!

Nearly got the TD I needed

Chester 05-11-2007 01:22 AM

Thought he had missed that

:eek:

Grim Reaper 05-11-2007 01:22 AM

2nd game I've followed that's gone to OT tonight.

Only been 6 OTs all season and three of them have been in the last 6 days

jlmatthews 05-11-2007 01:22 AM

I honestly think it may have been a different game with Harrison. One, he can catch the ball. It would have also helped free up Dallas Clark. Nothing taken away from the Pats though. Great win. I hope they meet up in the AFC Championship game. Those two teams are heads and shoulders above the rest of the league.

davematt 05-11-2007 01:27 AM

Great game between the two best sides in the country.

Brady delivered at the important times tonight.

Cant see anyone stopping them this season. So strong in all areas.

Grim Reaper 05-11-2007 01:28 AM

That's it Hasselback

Good lad

Grim Reaper 05-11-2007 01:29 AM

FFS

Now the moron officials are dragging it out

He got the 1st down for crying out loud

Grim Reaper 05-11-2007 01:31 AM

Oh my God

Not given!!

Chester 05-11-2007 01:33 AM

then dont make it

:bash:

Grim Reaper 05-11-2007 01:34 AM

Still a profitable night but I really should have quit betting at 10 and not carried on.

Looks like another loss coming up

Grim Reaper 05-11-2007 01:35 AM

Funny hearing that song by The Who in Cleveland.

That's what they play at Hull FC rugby when the team's come out.

Grim Reaper 05-11-2007 01:42 AM

6 overtimes

3 won by coin toss winner - 3 not

The 50% ratio lives on!!

jlmatthews 05-11-2007 01:43 AM

Couple great games tonight. Hopefully Philly Dallas will be a good one too!

Chester 05-11-2007 01:48 AM

Cincinatti, San Diego and Seattle have killed me this season.

jlmatthews 05-11-2007 01:50 AM

Bengals are just shit. Don't know how, but they're horrible.

Chester 05-11-2007 01:53 AM

They are a hideous team at the moment. Chad Johnson couldnt catch a cold if it hit him in the face.

Strathclyde Eagle 05-11-2007 07:54 AM

Cromartie's return:
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d803debd0

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 01:23 PM

All in all, a good weekend in the NFL with some amazing action.

I missed the early games as I was at the Bermuda Rugby Classic but got home for the start of the Pats Colts match, of course ;)

Having seen the highlights, Cromartie's return was amazing. Just to keep the ball in was a great play with his foot almost on the line. That was 109 yards and 2 feet and 11 inches! But Peterson is an amazing runner that could easily break even more NFL records. They took him out for the last play, I think, otherwise he'd have got over 300 rush yards.

And then my Patriots. I really thought the game was gone, especially with the umpires concealing their Colts jerseys under the zebra ones. Dubious defensive PIs, even more dubious offensive PIs... you could've knocked nearly 100 yards off our penalty count by correcting the calls. Harrison or not, I reckon some decent calls would've made it a different matchup.

Still, Brady showed what everyone knows - he can lead a team down the field when it matters most. With the weapons he has this year and Maroney coming back to fitness, can they equal the Fins and go unbeaten?

Seven left:
@ Buffalo
Eagles
@ Ravens
Steelers
Jets
Fins
@ Giants

To me, the games against the Ravens and the Giants are by far the toughest although the Steelers won't exactly roll over!

Well done Pats, enjoy your week off!

jazman 05-11-2007 01:35 PM

Some great games it seems last night from reading this thread and checking the scores online (haven't had the chance to watch any highlights yet!). Great win for the Patriots although it wasn't the game that it was built up to be, always the same though isn't it .... Great win for the Cowboys to put them on 7 and 1 and in charge of their division :p

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 01:47 PM

Cowgirls only one ahead of the Giants, jazman... I can't say 'd shed a tear if the Cowboys blew the division down the stretch ;)

Benzhiyi 05-11-2007 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saxoneagle
Still, Brady showed what everyone knows - he can lead a team down the field when it matters most. With the weapons he has this year and Maroney coming back to fitness, can they equal the Fins and go unbeaten?
Agreed. The Colts dominated the first three quarters and so in the fourth Brady just went: "You wanna play football. Ok then." Turned it round, lights out, game over. Scary. How do you stop a team that does that when they've been completely locked down for the preceding 45?

Can't see the Pats losing one now, unless Brady gets crocked, in which case they're a completely different team. I won't be watching them again until the play-offs: like the Chelsea team which strolled to the Prem title a couple of years back, their robot-like efficiency has become tedious for the neutral. (Even Randy Moss outleaping double coverage and pulling pulls in one-handed has become routine now.) It's frightening how easy they're making it all look.

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Agreed. The Colts dominated the first three quarters and so in the fourth Brady just went: "You wanna play football. Ok then." Turned it round, lights out, game over. Scary. How do you stop a team that does that when they've been completely locked down for the preceding 45?

Can't see the Pats losing one now, unless Brady gets crocked, in which case they're a completely different team. I won't be watching them again until the play-offs: like the Chelsea team which strolled to the Prem title a couple of years back, their robot-like efficiency has become tedious for the neutral. (Even Randy Moss outleaping double coverage and pulling pulls in one-handed has become routine now.) It's frightening how easy they're making it all look.

I have to disagree with your second para - whilst they are almost robotic in their play-making, it's hardly boring. That catch from Moss was amazing and they make long, great plays every week. They aren't sneaking a field goal win every week, like Chelsea with their 1 goal wins.

Any chance of the starters being rested though when they get the home-field advantage wrapped up (assuming they do...)?

Strathclyde Eagle 05-11-2007 02:26 PM

No chance of them resting starters if they're unbeaten.

I'm not sure I'd watch a Patriots game, but for a different reason to Ben. They're just so much better than anyone else (bar the Colts, which brought out their A game when needed) it isn't competitive. Of course this is part of what will make the Patriots-Jets game interesting. Pity we have to wait until week 15 for it.

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 02:59 PM

Indeed, be good to see Bill give Eric a good pasting ;)

Benzhiyi 05-11-2007 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saxoneagle
I have to disagree with your second para - whilst they are almost robotic in their play-making, it's hardly boring. That catch from Moss was amazing and they make long, great plays every week. They aren't sneaking a field goal win every week, like Chelsea with their 1 goal wins.

Any chance of the starters being rested though when they get the home-field advantage wrapped up (assuming they do...)?

Hang on - I thought you were a Pats fan? I did say 'for the neutral'. I too would find it entertaining if Miami or Palace were smashing teams up for fun every week. ;)

And the point I was making about that Moss catch is that he's been so good all season, it felt like 'just another Randy moment'. Whereas if a Chris Chambers or TJH or Kevin Curtis makes that catch, it'd be replayed endlessly everywhere for the next seven days, because it'd be out of character.

Grim Reaper 05-11-2007 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saxoneagle
Indeed, be good to see Bill give Eric a good pasting ;)
NEVER!

Eric Mangini 100% when taking the Jets to Foxboro :p

Clemens will be bedded in nicely by then :D

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Hang on - I thought you were a Pats fan? I did say 'for the neutral'. I too would find it entertaining if Miami or Palace were smashing teams up for fun every week. ;)

And the point I was making about that Moss catch is that he's been so good all season, it felt like 'just another Randy moment'. Whereas if a Chris Chambers or TJH or Kevin Curtis makes that catch, it'd be replayed endlessly everywhere for the next seven days, because it'd be out of character.

But even for a neutral, as an NFL fan I just don't see how you can't enjoy watching that!

And I've seen that Moss catch 3 times already since last night so it will be played for a while yet ;)

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grim Reaper
NEVER!

Eric Mangini 100% when taking the Jets to Foxboro :p

Clemens will be bedded in nicely by then :D

The two of them seemed a little less frosty the last time they met but I can't see that "warm" welcome being extended to Foxboro this year :D

jazman 05-11-2007 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saxoneagle
Cowgirls only one ahead of the Giants, jazman... I can't say 'd shed a tear if the Cowboys blew the division down the stretch ;)
I didn't know ladies played US football ... ;)

So the Cowboys are the team fans love to hate still it seems ... :sob:

The next fixture is Cowboys at the Giants I believe .... :p

jazman 05-11-2007 04:20 PM

.

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 04:28 PM

Well, not really hate the Cows as such as hate TO(sser).

Not a huge fan of Romo either but he provides entertainment - both good and bad. I like watching the Cowboys but if they could lose 42-38 every week to a last minute interception return, I'd be happy :D

(My other half is Texan and therefore anything bad I say against Texas is forbidden, unless it involves the inbreds at Texas A&M or the pile of cr*p at Baylor... :D)

Strathclyde Eagle 05-11-2007 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saxoneagle
Indeed, be good to see Bill give Eric a good pasting ;)
Cris Collinsworth has gone on the record as saying that for the Patriots-Jets game they'll need an NBA scoreboard to keep score. :eek:

Just a quick follow-up on the Olindo Mare vs Jay Feely discussion, taken from Peter King's column today:
Quote:

The New Orleans Saints, unhappy with the distance of veteran kicker John Carney last year, cut him and traded a sixth-round pick to Miami for Olindo Mare before the draft. Mare's been a disappointment, missing two more field goals Sunday against Jacksonville, making him six of 12 in field goals in the first half of the season.

The Saints gave up the 199th pick in the draft for Mare.

Tom Brady was the 199th pick of a draft once, seven years ago.
As I think I've said before, where were the people declaring Belichick and Pioli geniuses when the Patriots were 0-2 in 2001 and an injury to Drew Bledsoe forced them into starting a sixth-round pick at QB?

I'd love to see a scouting report on Brady to see why he dropped so far in the draft.

jazman 05-11-2007 04:45 PM

Be gentle with me, I've only recently started to get back interested in the game more recently after a 6 or 7 year lack of interest. Maybe that stems from the cricket season finishing and the fact that Palace are so poor at the moment ... :D

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Cris Collinsworth has gone on the record as saying that for the Patriots-Jets game they'll need an NBA scoreboard to keep score. :eek:

Just a quick follow-up on the Olindo Mare vs Jay Feely discussion, taken from Peter King's column today:

As I think I've said before, where were the people declaring Belichick and Pioli geniuses when the Patriots were 0-2 in 2001 and an injury to Drew Bledsoe forced them into starting a sixth-round pick at QB?

I'd love to see a scouting report on Brady to see why he dropped so far in the draft.

Interesting article. Hopefully the Saints season won't come down to a field goal!

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jazman
Be gentle with me, I've only recently started to get back interested in the game more recently after a 6 or 7 year lack of interest. Maybe that stems from the cricket season finishing and the fact that Palace are so poor at the moment ... :D

Good man, stick with it. I rarely even know what the Palace score is anymore until reaching work on a Monday morning! :eek:

Benzhiyi 05-11-2007 05:04 PM

Grim will like this draft preview from 2000:

"The top two quarterbacks in this year's crop are Louisville's Chris Redman and Marshall's Chad Pennington."

Brady is a mere footnote, and described as 'not a gifted athlete'.

http://archive.profootballweekly.com..._qb_020200.asp

Teagle 05-11-2007 05:28 PM

According to these rankings -

http://archive.profootballweekly.com...ain_042000.asp


Brady had a slightly better than 50-50 chance of making a roster.

Teagle 05-11-2007 05:33 PM

http://archive.profootballweekly.com...%20TOM%20BRADY

Scouting report of sorts.

jazman 05-11-2007 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saxoneagle
Good man, stick with it. I rarely even know what the Palace score is anymore until reaching work on a Monday morning! :eek:
I will, thanks. I was studying the results with renewed interest. May have something to do with the fact that the Cowboys are finally having some sort of recovery. But I've enjoyed the Total Access programmes that have been on and they've rarely mentioned Dallas.

Strathclyde Eagle 05-11-2007 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Grim will like this draft preview from 2000:

"The top two quarterbacks in this year's crop are Louisville's Chris Redman and Marshall's Chad Pennington."

Thanks to Pennington and Bryon Leftwich, Marshall aren't going to get much luck in recruiting young, gifted high school QBs. Their reputation will be shot like any QB coming from a Jeff Tedford system (Akili Smith, Joey Harrington, Kyle Boller & Aaron Rodgers).
Quote:

Originally posted by Teagle
According to these rankings -

http://archive.profootballweekly.com...ain_042000.asp


Brady had a slightly better than 50-50 chance of making a roster.

Now he's almost assured of going to Canton.

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 06:32 PM

"However, this year there are no quarterbacks with the physical gifts of Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith or Daunte Culpepper."

I liked that bit... I've followed NFL for a while and Couch and Smith barely register a blip on my knowledge banks!

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 06:36 PM

From here:

http://archive.profootballweekly.com...%20TOM%20BRADY

It says Brady "has some Brian Griese in him..." :D

I bet Chicago wish Griese had some Tom Brady in him!

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jazman
I will, thanks. I was studying the results with renewed interest. May have something to do with the fact that the Cowboys are finally having some sort of recovery. But I've enjoyed the Total Access programmes that have been on and they've rarely mentioned Dallas.
Now I live the other side of the pond, I have ESPN almost permanently on the TV. My g/f hates sports :D

Benzhiyi 05-11-2007 07:39 PM

Bit harsh on Rodgers, Strath. He may yet be the Packers' QB of the future once Favre hangs 'em up.

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Bit harsh on Rodgers, Strath. He may yet be the Packers' QB of the future once Favre hangs 'em up.
If nothing else, he has a GREAT role model! Just don't copy his feet positioning!

Strathclyde Eagle 05-11-2007 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Benzhiyi
Bit harsh on Rodgers, Strath. He may yet be the Packers' QB of the future once Favre hangs 'em up.
Fair point. It was one of the knocks on him when he got drafted (rightly or wrongly). Incidentally researching a few posts I read that Rodgers' contract has a lot of incentives in it. You have to wonder if he begrudges Favre's renaissance.

There's a fair bit of talk about "system quarterbacks" regarding the draft now, the inferrence being that these guys are only putting up huge stats because of where they're playing and who they're being coached by. This could definitely happen to Colt Brennan of Hawaii next April (who wasn't helped by the one week his backup played and had a monster day).

Incidentally I'd have been happy if the Fins had drafted either Harrington (when he first left Oregon) or Rodgers. :clown:

Strathclyde Eagle 05-11-2007 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saxoneagle
From here:

http://archive.profootballweekly.com...%20TOM%20BRADY

It says Brady "has some Brian Griese in him..." :D

I bet Chicago wish Griese had some Tom Brady in him!

Who on earth was Giovanni Carmazzi (ranked ahead of Brady and Marc Bulger)? :confused:

Strathclyde Eagle 05-11-2007 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by saxoneagle
Just a question - why do the Pats ALWAYS have Brady on their injury list? Apparently he's "probable" due to a shoulder injury - the same one he's had for 4 seasons, no doubt!
Just read this:
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/...-injury-report
:eek:

That's why people don't believe Belichick's injury reports.

Teagle 05-11-2007 10:06 PM

So we wont be seeing Beck against the Bills after all...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3095543

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Just read this:
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/...-injury-report
:eek:

That's why people don't believe Belichick's injury reports.

Even better with the bitter Jets' fans comments following the article!

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
Who on earth was Giovanni Carmazzi (ranked ahead of Brady and Marc Bulger)? :confused:
Never heard of him... Google here I come!

saxoneagle 05-11-2007 10:30 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Carmazzi

49ers took him in Round 3... never played!

jlmatthews 06-11-2007 03:54 AM

Steve McNair is horrible.

Benzhiyi 06-11-2007 10:34 AM

Yep. He's done. And Boller isn't the answer. They should have taken a QB earlier in the draft. (Can't see Troy Smith making it in the long haul either...)

saxoneagle 06-11-2007 02:15 PM

Missed the game last night but saw some highlights this morning. Big Ben is looking pretty sharp but given the shortfields he dealt with the Ravens offense made it easier for him.

Strathclyde Eagle 11-11-2007 10:03 PM

Fins are going to grab defeat from the jaws of victory again. :sob:

Strathclyde Eagle 11-11-2007 10:06 PM

And St. Louis win.

Benzhiyi 11-11-2007 11:00 PM

••••••• Dolphins. :(

Grim Reaper 11-11-2007 11:48 PM

How the hell were Duffalo available at decent odds when just 3-2 down???

Easy money.

This Giants game proving to be a ncie touch - each team having spells of being in the lead and faves on the betting.

God I love this sport.

Just need Detroit to get the next score and everything will be fine and dandy.

Grim Reaper 11-11-2007 11:49 PM

Shockey a season high 9 receptions last time he played Dallas - already on 8 this time at ht!!!

Grim Reaper 11-11-2007 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Strathclyde Eagle
And St. Louis win.
Snigger




















Oh sh1t that means Jets are no longer 3rd worst but in fact jt 2nd worst!! :o

elliott 12-11-2007 03:09 AM

Yay. Defeat from jaws of victory as usual.

At least we beat the spread, a victory in my eyes.

Anyone hear my shoutout on five? Not happy that they didn't read out the business part of the email!

Teagle 12-11-2007 03:17 AM

Manning thrown 4 interceptions in a little over a quarter.


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