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LLCOOLSTEVE 24-04-2013 07:43 PM

https://www.youtube.com/embed/4GOgkbYUsNs

Funk Butter 24-04-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LLCOOLSTEVE

Dammit man, how are we supposed to make jokes now?

LLCOOLSTEVE 24-04-2013 09:14 PM

It was a bit moving

Kind of hope he gets a go somewhere

pauldrulez 24-04-2013 09:33 PM

I will watch the draft on Sky until NFL Network begin to make Leon Sandcastle jokes. Then I will turn it off.

Way to kill what was already a shit joke.

Funk Butter 25-04-2013 04:38 AM

My gut is the Falcons and Patriots are going to battle each other to trade up for DJ Hayden.

Strathclyde Eagle 25-04-2013 05:13 AM

Interesting to hear Bill Polian say on PTI that he allowed himself to be talked out of drafting a QB in his last year as Colts GM, just prior to Manning's injury. Seems that people have figured that he was talking about drafting either Andy Dalton or Colin Kaepernick. That's an enormous "what if" to think about.

pauldrulez 25-04-2013 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Funk Butter
My gut is the Falcons and Patriots are going to battle each other to trade up for DJ Hayden.

Moving down much more likely.

I don't see the CB need in NE.

Starters: Talib, Dennard
Nickel: Arrington (paid him good money)
Backup: Dowling, Cole.

Need a Rusher and Receiver and I'd much rather have an extra pick or 2 in rounds 2/3 than move up

davematt 25-04-2013 09:34 AM

Mayock's released his mock and has Geno Smith going to Cleveland at 6; wouldn't be too surprised to be honest. He can't be more of a bust than Brandon Weeden surely?

jazman 25-04-2013 02:03 PM

I wonder what plans the Dillon Panthers and the East Dillion Lions have for the draft ... ;)

Beckenham Boy 25-04-2013 03:03 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/american-football/21961331

NFL Draft 2013: Menelik Watson swaps inner-city life for the big time
By Ian Shoesmith

From devouring free sachets of tomato ketchup as an impoverished kid in inner-city Manchester to the brink of a multi-million dollar career in the NFL, Menelik Watson's journey is an incredible tale.

As one of four boys brought up by a single parent on the tough Anson Estate in Longsight, an area of Manchester which until recently was infamous for gun crime and turf wars between gangs, life's dice were loaded against him.

One of the Watson boys is still in prison and another has spent time inside. But not Menelik.

"I saw my brothers hit the streets and I really saw what it was doing to my mum," the 24-year-old told BBC Sport ahead of Thursday's NFL Draft (early hours of Friday in the UK), in which the cream of the college crop are allocated to the sport's 32 professional teams. "I always knew that I didn't want to add to that stress - it was really breaking her down.

"I've been on the street corner before, but I've always been blessed by a good spirit around me that kept me out of trouble."

That and his quick feet. Able to complete the 40-yard dash in a shade over five seconds, Watson is freakishly fast for a man standing 6ft 5in (1.95m) tall and weighing 310lb (22st, 141kg).

Watson also thanks his lucky stars for the day he met basketball coach Rob Orellana.

The American spotted him at a Christmas 2006 basketball tournament in Manchester, just after Watson's 18th birthday.

While being 6ft 5in tall is something the vast majority of us can only dream of, amazingly it is not quite tall enough to put you into the stratospheric world of an NBA power forward.

But Orellana thought he would take a punt on Watson anyway, because of his "agility, lift and unique ability to move laterally for a kid of his size" and offer him a place at his basketball academy in the Canary Islands.

It represented a second chance in sport for Watson, whose dreams of playing as a defensive midfielder for his beloved Manchester City had been shattered along with his ankle five years previously during a "100 against 100" game of park football.

"Can you imagine seeing the bone poking out of your skin? The doctor told me they almost amputated [my foot] because they were worried about the difficult complications that could happen if they put my ankle back together," he recalled.

"They told me I shouldn't play sports again. Me being bone-headed, I found basketball and fell in love with it."

What he lacked in inches Watson certainly made up for in application, although he openly admits to having initially found Orellana's tough training regime hard to deal with.

"The first year, I hated him. I couldn't stand him," joked Watson before talking about the incredibly close relationship which now exists between them.

The love goes both ways.

"If everyone had his drive we would have a beautiful world," said Orellana. "You'd have to do a lobotomy; you'd have to do open-heart surgery to see what was in his brain and what he's got in his heart."

When Watson was about to become a father four years ago, it was coach Orellana who stumped up the money to pay for him to fly home to Manchester.

"I got home to see my baby being born. He's like my father, he always has been and always will be," said Watson.

When it was clear a couple of years ago that his protege would not make it as a professional basketball player, Orellana took Watson to a small-town college which barely registers in its home state of California, let alone across the United States.

"We showed up unannounced on the doorstep at Saddleback junior college and said 'hey, he wants to play [American] football'," explained Orellana.

"He ran a little, they looked at the size of his legs and they said 'we'd love to have you'."

At this point, Watson had never donned a pair of shoulder pads or even picked up an American football.

But he took to the sport like a natural - "I had to learn all the rules; it was fun, like being a kid again" - and within months he had scouts from elite colleges checking him out.

The man who ended up signing Watson, though, did so purely by chance.

If you were looking for an actor to play the role of a gruff, grizzled coach, Rick Trickett's name would surely be at the top of Central Casting's list.

"I went to California to see another guy we had on our list," explained the former US Marine and Vietnam veteran. "And the junior coach then pulled me aside and said 'I've got one better than him'.

"And I'm thinking 'OK, sure you do'."

Watson joined Trickett's Florida State University team as a right tackle, a position where your main jobs are to stop your equally huge opponents from flattening your quarterback and to open up gaps for your running back to exploit.

"I've been doing this going on 41 years now," said Trickett in his slow West Virginian drawl. "And Menelik is the most explosive big man that I've ever coached.

"It didn't take long for me to realise this cat is a little bit different."

Having only played 20 games in his entire life, Watson now heads to the NFL Draft at Radio City Music Hall in New York as one of the highest-rated young players in America.

A seven-figure salary awaits wherever he ends up, although he had the option of further honing his skills by playing one more year in college.

But American football is a brutal sport. With the risk of a torn cruciate ligament or a head injury snatching away any dreams of a million-dollar contract in an instant, few can blame him for turning pro at the first opportunity.

"I'm 24 years old, I've been in school my whole life and I thought it was about time I got a job," said Watson, who promises to give some of his first pay cheque to his mum Novlyn as well as buying his first place to live and a "little" vehicle.

"I'm a simple guy, I don't need much," he said.

"Some consider me as a mummy's boy. She had four boys, she was by herself and many a time she could have walked out and left us [but] she always showed us love.

"She was hard on us - she had to be - but it's just the respect, when you see somebody fight that hard for you. I owe it to her, more than anybody else in the world, to do something positive and see her smile. That's my motivation."

When he was growing up, he remembers being so hungry that, when accompanying his mum on a cleaning job, he helped himself to ketchup in the canteen.

Watson is desperate for his four-year-old girl Orellana - named in honour of his mentor Rob - to have a better start to life than he did and is relieved that his soon-to-be-found financial security will enable him to see a lot more of her in Manchester, where she still lives with her mother.

"She is so aware of her surroundings, so advanced, smart, respectful and loving," he says with pride. "I'm just so glad that she won't have to ever go through some of things [I had to]."

Watson knows he still has a lot to learn but, in the words of coach Trickett, "Menelik is like a sponge".

Trickett explained: "He's not been Americanised so he doesn't know what he's not supposed to know.

"God's blessed him with enough ability and enough intelligence that, for the most part, he can do anything."

As for Watson himself?

"I haven't done anything yet in terms of where I want to go and want to accomplish," he said.

"Rome wasn't built in a day but I've figured out the formula of the way you're meant to do things.

"One of my big goals is to win a Super Bowl. I watched this year and I was telling myself 'I know I'm going to be there one year'."

You can listen to BBC Radio 5 live's NFL Draft Preview programme by clicking here . Live coverage of the first round will be on BBC Radio 5 live Sports Extra from 00:30 BST on Friday

Funk Butter 25-04-2013 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Moving down much more likely.

I don't see the CB need in NE.

Starters: Talib, Dennard
Nickel: Arrington (paid him good money)
Backup: Dowling, Cole.

Need a Rusher and Receiver and I'd much rather have an extra pick or 2 in rounds 2/3 than move up

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before Talib and Dennard are in jail, though.

Funk Butter 25-04-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by davematt
Mayock's released his mock and has Geno Smith going to Cleveland at 6; wouldn't be too surprised to be honest. He can't be more of a bust than Brandon Weeden surely?

McShay has Joeckel going 11th. Unless that guy robbed a liquor store last night, that's crazy. And both he an Kiper have Lane Johnson going to the Eagles. Since I said it a month ago, I'm sticking with Milliner at #4. (of course, it might not be to the Eagles)

pauldrulez 25-04-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Funk Butter
I'm sure it's only a matter of time before Talib and Dennard are in jail, though.

Talib maybe, Dennard is in jail next March. Before his crime, he hadn't done anything wrong by most accounts.

I think Belichick keeps Talib on the straight and narrow.

The better insult/joke would've been about Dowling being on IR. Ras-IR Dowling.

Funk Butter 25-04-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldrulez
Talib maybe, Dennard is in jail next March. Before his crime, he hadn't done anything wrong by most accounts.

I think Belichick keeps Talib on the straight and narrow.

The better insult/joke would've been about Dowling being on IR. Ras-IR Dowling.

Ok, I'll bet you an imaginary hot dog that if the Falcons or Patriots trade up in the 1st round it will be for Hayden, if he isn't already picked. I think to be sure of getting him, they'll have to move up to 18th just ahead of the Giants. If the Giants don't take him, I think he'll be gone by pick 24 to the Colts.

pauldrulez 25-04-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Funk Butter
Ok, I'll bet you an imaginary hot dog that if the Falcons or Patriots trade up in the 1st round it will be for Hayden, if he isn't already picked. I think to be sure of getting him, they'll have to move up to 18th just ahead of the Giants. If the Giants don't take him, I think he'll be gone by pick 24 to the Colts.

IF! they trade up!

I don't think the value is moving up from low in the round this year. The value is from 25-60, if the Pats can get 3 picks there, i'll be happy

pauldrulez 25-04-2013 05:59 PM

Mallett trade rumours coming out!

I love it.

Pats sit patiently and wait for teams to get the hump with this QB Class and come cap in hand to NE.

I think a 3rd this year and 2 (conditional 1) in 2014 gets it done.

Andy Newton 25-04-2013 06:59 PM

nfl network gamepass draft coverage free with signup to nfl.com for those that dont have sky etc.

Funk Butter 25-04-2013 09:56 PM

Here are my bets:

NFL Draft 1st Round Quarterbacks - Over 1.5 (@ 1.85 at BWin)
NFL Draft Player Drafted 1st? - Anybody other than Luke Joeckel (@ 1.83 at Skybet)
NFL Draft 1st Round Tight Ends - Over 0.5 @ 1.22 at SkyBet (This is your banker)
NFL Draft 1st Round Offensive Linemen - Under 6.5 @ 3.0 at Skybet (It's entirely possible that 6 go in the first 12 picks, so this is touchy)
NFL Draft Tavon Austin Draft Position - Under 13.5 @ 1.62 at Boylesports (He will not pass pick #13)
NFL Draft Cornelius Carradine Draft Position - Under 33.5 @ 1.57 at Skybet

Funk Butter 25-04-2013 09:57 PM

Btw, the scuttlebutt is now the Raiders taking Hayden at #3 if they can't trade down. That's throws the kibosh on the hot dog bet.

pauldrulez 25-04-2013 10:47 PM

For anyone that views this thread in the next 3 hours, I might as well ask these 4 questions...

1. Where does the first QB come off the board, and who is it?

2. Where does Tavon Austin end up and who trades up for him?

3. Who (realistically) would you like your team to select in the first round?

4. Who is your late round prospect (other than Lawrence Okoye) who you would like your team to pick up?


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