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LuieJack 11-01-2022 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 16203923)
Iím not sure this is entirely correct. Iíd have to check the stats but I seem to recall him doing pretty well, scoring a couple of 50ís and getting close to a ton in one innings against, I think, India. I certainly donít think he Ďfailedí and it was his injury that saw him miss out rather than his form.

Maybe my choice of words "Failure" could have been different as he did have some decent innings against India and then the misfortune of the finger injury. But then his form fell away hence why he got ignored eventhough we went through countless of other opening batsmen, maybe the error was by the selectors to reintroduce him into an Ashes series in Australia, but looking at his nervous and unsure approach does not bode well for an Opener and that is what i am judging him by.
Lets see what happens in the months ahead and if the selectors still have faith in him or not.

LuieJack 11-01-2022 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16204020)
Absolute nonsense

Such an excellent response, very enlightining.:rolleyes:

stinky 11-01-2022 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LuieJack (Post 16204196)
Such an excellent response, very enlightining.:rolleyes:

Except he's correct

Tomo 11-01-2022 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by LuieJack (Post 16204192)
Maybe my choice of words "Failure" could have been different as he did have some decent innings against India and then the misfortune of the finger injury. But then his form fell away hence why he got ignored eventhough we went through countless of other opening batsmen, maybe the error was by the selectors to reintroduce him into an Ashes series in Australia, but looking at his nervous and unsure approach does not bode well for an Opener and that is what i am judging him by.
Lets see what happens in the months ahead and if the selectors still have faith in him or not.

They clearly see something in him, and have done for a while.

He looked assured vs India in the summer, and I thought he looked fine at the beginning of this series. Clearly he's struggling now but I'd not say it's going to be terminal to his england career.

ozzieEagle 11-01-2022 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16203627)
I love Tassie, one of the best places I have ever visited. Please don't confuse my cliched Sydney mainlander joke for a dislike of the place


Yes definitely well worth visiting and quite unique. I'm looking forwards to seeing how they Televise the Test there.

Olympian2 11-01-2022 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LuieJack (Post 16204196)
Such an excellent response, very enlightining.:rolleyes:

You literally said the following :

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Originally Posted by LuieJack (Post 16203759)
As for Hameed, we must not forget he was selected for England a few years ago and clearly did not quite make the grade then

You might not like me calling that out as nonsense but it is, indeed, nonsense. He absolutely, completely lost form after his finger injury but in November 2016, everyone was clearly very impressed with his batting in the 3 Tests in India.

In fact, here's what Virat Kohli had to say at the time about the then 19 year old...

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/v...e-rise-1069768

LuieJack 11-01-2022 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by stinky (Post 16204217)
Except he's correct

Are you Two joined at the hip.:rolleyes:

spike 11-01-2022 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LuieJack (Post 16204266)
Are you Two joined at the hip.:rolleyes:

At least 5 posters have disagreed with your statement.:wallbash:

stinky 11-01-2022 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LuieJack (Post 16204266)
Are you Two joined at the hip.:rolleyes:

No? I don't understand the question.

davech 13-01-2022 12:12 PM

More pink ball day-night nonsense coming up. Why? Just...why???

Aki Aki Aki 13-01-2022 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by davech (Post 16208643)
More pink ball day-night nonsense coming up. Why? Just...why???

$$$$$

I see Joe Root has given his backing to Silverwood. That's another decade of Ashes misery :p

Maiden Eagle 13-01-2022 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aki Aki Aki (Post 16208679)
$$$$$

I see Joe Root has given his backing to Silverwood. That's another decade of Ashes misery :p

Well, I suppose he has to say that (in public, at least)

But **** me, we need to get rid of Silverwood ASAP.

He deserves to be sacked, just on his decision to leave Broad out of the 1st and 3rd tests, alone:clown:

Jordan's Jacket 13-01-2022 12:44 PM

Given Root has no say on the appointment of the Head coach it's kind of irrelevant what he says

spike 13-01-2022 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by davech (Post 16208643)
More pink ball day-night nonsense coming up. Why? Just...why???

To keep it in the same time slot as the Perth Test would have been for broadcast purposes (so ultimately $$$, as suggested already).

Tomo 13-01-2022 04:47 PM

I've no issues with the Day/Night matches. I'm glad to see Test cricket is doing something to move on and develop.

What i find mental, is all this talk about rotation and resting players, is that Stokes, the player who'd played the least over the last year is the one we've not chosen to rest/rotate.

stinky 13-01-2022 11:19 PM

What time is everyone planning on getting up tomorrow? I'm toying with a 5am alarm but realise 'lunch' will probably be at 6

Tomo 14-01-2022 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by stinky (Post 16209758)
What time is everyone planning on getting up tomorrow? I'm toying with a 5am alarm but realise 'lunch' will probably be at 6

Iíll set it for 6 and take the dog for a walk through the ďdinner breakĒ so Iím back for the middle session. but imagine Iíll get up about 5 to go for a piss and justo go downstairs to watch it.

RazorsEdge 14-01-2022 04:32 AM

I am up already but the rain seems to have reached Hobart and toss has been delayed

KYLIE MINEAGLE 14-01-2022 05:02 AM

Root wins toss and puts Australia in.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 14-01-2022 05:05 AM

WTF Anderson left out. Bairstow unfit (thumb)

KYLIE MINEAGLE 14-01-2022 05:57 AM

Duck for Dave

KYLIE MINEAGLE 14-01-2022 06:08 AM

Duck for Dave

RazorsEdge 14-01-2022 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE (Post 16209852)
WTF Anderson left out. Bairstow unfit (thumb)

I couldnít believe it


Lagershandy is dropped and I think Crawley should have left that for Root, hope this drop does not cost us too much

KYLIE MINEAGLE 14-01-2022 06:16 AM

Duck for Steve.

RazorsEdge 14-01-2022 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE (Post 16209912)
Duck for Steve.

Get in and Ussie is gone

12-3

ExiledStirling 14-01-2022 06:20 AM

I thought I had woken up but am obviously still asleep and in the midst of a dream. In my dream Australia are 12-3.

Olympian2 14-01-2022 06:33 AM

England bowling really well but Australia already 24-3. Probably enough for a 1st innings lead…

ExiledStirling 14-01-2022 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16209915)
England bowling really well but Australia already 24-3. Probably enough for a 1st innings leadÖ

Game over 29-3

Tomo 14-01-2022 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomo (Post 16209810)
Iíll set it for 6 and take the dog for a walk through the ďdinner breakĒ so Iím back for the middle session. but imagine Iíll get up about 5 to go for a piss and justo go downstairs to watch it.

5:20 it happened

Olympian2 14-01-2022 06:45 AM

Aus 30-3 & still 4/6 to win the Test match….

stinky 14-01-2022 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomo (Post 16209918)
5:20 it happened

I set mine for 6.25, as I thought the session would be 4-6am. Downstairs with a coffee at 6.30. Turn TV on and they're walking off for 'lunch'.

Fuming

RazorsEdge 14-01-2022 07:48 AM

I am not laughing at the way lagershandy got dismissed as I had something similar happen to me in nets many years ago lol

RazorsEdge 14-01-2022 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ExiledStirling (Post 16209914)
I thought I had woken up but am obviously still asleep and in the midst of a dream. In my dream Australia are 12-3.

Would have been 4 if not for dropped catch

stevek 14-01-2022 07:52 AM

Just got up - when I saw the score I assume it was England batting.

stinky 14-01-2022 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorsEdge (Post 16210151)
I am not laughing at the way lagershandy got dismissed as I had something similar happen to me in nets many years ago lol

BBC live text are going mental saying how it's the most extraordinary dismissal you'll ever see.

Am I alone in thinking it's not that extraordinary? They're saying he got his feet completely tangled, fell over and then got bowled as a result. It doesn't look like it to me. The ball was past him by the time he 'fell over'. He just completely misjudged it, gets bowled and falls over. I'm not even sure he slipped. His feet didn't get tangled. It looks like he threw himself to the floor for some bizarre reason.

spike 14-01-2022 07:56 AM

For anyone who hasn't seen Labushagne getting out, it was a cross between Burns first ball of the series and Wood bowling an effort ball.

https://twitter.com/btsportcricket/s...76124858781696

spike 14-01-2022 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by stinky (Post 16210155)
Am I alone in thinking it's not that extraordinary? They're saying he got his feet completely tangled, fell over and then got bowled as a result. It doesn't look like it to me. The ball was past him by the time he 'fell over'. He just completely misjudged it, gets bowled and falls over. I'm not even sure he slipped. His feet didn't get tangled. It looks like he threw himself to the floor for some bizarre reason.

Yeah, he was batting on off-stump and he planted his front foot another 2 ft outside off to a ball hitting middle <s> and leg</s>. The fall occurred as he tried to reach back for the ball as it was going past him.

Wolfnipplechips 14-01-2022 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by spike (Post 16210157)
For anyone who hasn't seen Labushagne getting out, it was a cross between Burns first ball of the series and Wood bowling an effort ball.

https://twitter.com/btsportcricket/s...76124858781696

Bowled middle stump.

RazorsEdge 14-01-2022 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stinky (Post 16210155)
BBC live text are going mental saying how it's the most extraordinary dismissal you'll ever see.

Am I alone in thinking it's not that extraordinary? They're saying he got his feet completely tangled, fell over and then got bowled as a result. It doesn't look like it to me. The ball was past him by the time he 'fell over'. He just completely misjudged it, gets bowled and falls over. I'm not even sure he slipped. His feet didn't get tangled. It looks like he threw himself to the floor for some bizarre reason.

He misjudged it pure and simple and some poetic license was taken by the bbc

RazorsEdge 14-01-2022 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stevek (Post 16210154)
Just got up - when I saw the score I assume it was England batting.

Hahaha

RazorsEdge 14-01-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spike (Post 16210165)
Yeah, he was batting on off-stump and he planted his front foot another 2 ft outside off to a ball hitting middle and leg. The fall occurred as he tried to reach back for the ball as it was going past him.

Yup

stinky 14-01-2022 08:12 AM

Starting with the expensive Wood after lunch

stinky 14-01-2022 08:19 AM

Why is Robinson bowling so slowly?!

Edit: injured. FFS.

Tomo 14-01-2022 08:40 AM

There’s been a few hints that Robinson needs to work on his fitness.

I know anyone can get injured but it’s not useful.

Prince Phillip 14-01-2022 08:45 AM

If only England had some right arm fast-medium to bring into the attack.

stinky 14-01-2022 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomo (Post 16210207)
Thereís been a few hints that Robinson needs to work on his fitness.

I know anyone can get injured but itís not useful.

1 over of 70mph dollies after the break then off and not seen again.

Less than ideal. And still haven't seen Broad yet.

stinky 14-01-2022 09:14 AM

When they got to 100, Skybet were offering 5/2 on next wicket to fall at over 150.

Easy money.

Worksop Palace 14-01-2022 09:18 AM

WTF is Gower banging on about. Tit

Olympian2 14-01-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by stinky (Post 16210233)
When they got to 100, Skybet were offering 5/2 on next week to fall at over 150.

Easy money.

Well played! :p

stevek 14-01-2022 10:00 AM

I was just typing "Normal service well and truly resumed" and the wicket fell :)

GB2506 14-01-2022 10:02 AM

They will still go on to get 325 which will give them a first innings lead of about 100 as we struggle to get 200 again.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 14-01-2022 10:03 AM

I have got 6/1 on Root scoring a ton. Feel he is due.

stevek 14-01-2022 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GB2506 (Post 16210287)
They will still go on to get 325 which will give them a first innings lead of about 100 as we struggle to get 200 again.

Oh, yes, undoubtedly. In fact, you might be being optimistic.

LuieJack 14-01-2022 10:21 AM

It's good to see England playing with pride and showing a real fight, a pity Wood's bowling was poor giving them easy runs. However take nothing away from the superb Travis Head and if not for him and now Green assuming we dont allow him also to get a century, then we would be in a really strong position.
Now we await to see how our batsmen respond and that is always impossible to predict.

Philipw 14-01-2022 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LuieJack (Post 16210317)
It's good to see England playing with pride and showing a real fight, a pity Wood's bowling was poor giving them easy runs. However take nothing away from the superb Travis Head and if not for him and now Green assuming we dont allow him also to get a century, then we would be in a really strong position.
Now we await to see how our batsmen respond and that is always impossible to predict.

Problem is that all their batsmen seem capable of doing this - and one or two generally do in each innings. Until the last test, only Root looked capable of getting past 50

Bones14 14-01-2022 10:37 AM

Marnus.................................I would've been bowled out as well mate..........................but not with that stupid ****en shot.................idiot.

stinky 14-01-2022 10:49 AM

I don't understand why Wood was picked to play on a green wicket in overcast conditions. Some really bizarre decisions on this tour.

stinky 14-01-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16210238)
Well played! :p

Whoever sets the odds at Skybet clearly isn't a follower of the England cricket team. We are the masters of letting a good position get away from us.

Philipw 14-01-2022 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stinky (Post 16210377)
Whoever sets the odds at Skybet clearly isn't a follower of the England cricket team. We are the masters of letting a good position get away from us.

Is jimmy injured?

stinky 14-01-2022 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipw (Post 16210382)
Is jimmy injured?

No idea but this pitch and these conditions seem tailor-made for him

crystaljim 14-01-2022 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipw (Post 16210382)
Is jimmy injured?

You would have to think so. It's a pitch that suits him. Would be bizarre if he was fit and not picked.

Olympian2 14-01-2022 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16210404)
You would have to think so. It's a pitch that suits him. Would be bizarre if he was fit and not picked.

Especially as he's been previously rested.

Anyway, off for rain now which helps my 3-0/3-1 bets a little....

Olympian2 14-01-2022 11:17 AM

In other news (not, I appreciate, specifically related to 2021 Ashes), Tom Harrison seems to have finally woken up to what we've all been saying for ages about red-ball cricket in England....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59945358

Palace Kebab 14-01-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16210404)
You would have to think so. It's a pitch that suits him. Would be bizarre if he was fit and not picked.

Steve Harmison via a note to David Gower on commentary said he is

LuieJack 14-01-2022 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipw (Post 16210382)
Is jimmy injured?

Yes.

LuieJack 14-01-2022 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipw (Post 16210336)
Problem is that all their batsmen seem capable of doing this - and one or two generally do in each innings. Until the last test, only Root looked capable of getting past 50

That is very true, as just when you think you have got them on the ropes you get Green come in and turn it around again, at least he's out before any real damage if he had got to a century.:)
We can only hope that our batsmen put smiles back on our faces after what has been a dismal series.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 15-01-2022 06:14 AM

Burns run out 0, bloody awful cricket .

RazorsEdge 15-01-2022 06:26 AM

It was a wrong call by Zac there was no single there and direct hit by lagershandy. Burns had no luck

KYLIE MINEAGLE 15-01-2022 06:45 AM

It was school boy running. Smith or Labuschagne would have dived for that .

Worksop Palace 15-01-2022 08:32 AM

Another stellar contribution from the Surrey captain I see.

Brilliant stuff. What a player.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 15-01-2022 08:46 AM

Going to struggle to avoid the follow on chasing 300.

ExiledStirling 15-01-2022 08:47 AM

An England batting collapse. Never saw that coming.

Olympian2 15-01-2022 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 16213420)
Another stellar contribution from the Surrey captain I see.

Brilliant stuff. What a player.

Another stellar contribution from Worky, I see.

Brilliant stuff. What a poster.

Worksop Palace 15-01-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ExiledStirling (Post 16213426)
An England batting collapse. Never saw that coming.

Yeah itís a puzzler for sure.

I have a small amount of sympathy for our middle order. They are constantly coming in facing a relatively new ball because our openers canít hang around for more than a few deliveries. You will win very few test matches with shit opening batsman.

Worksop Palace 15-01-2022 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16213433)
Another stellar contribution from Worky, I see.

Brilliant stuff. What a poster.

Cheers :p

Stockport_Eagle 15-01-2022 08:59 AM

This simply has to be the final test match for a lot of players & staff.

Disgrace is a strong word but this is a disgrace.

Aki Aki Aki 15-01-2022 09:01 AM

The pitch is too green for a non English Test.

Over to you Sam

ANTEAGLE 15-01-2022 09:04 AM

The comeback is on! Centuries for each of these lads. We bowl the Aussies out for 150 meaning we are chasing about 50 and then we get bowled out for 37.

RazorsEdge 15-01-2022 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE (Post 16213376)
It was school boy running. Smith or Labuschagne would have dived for that .

He was miles away (mentally) and yes I agree

Wolfnipplechips 15-01-2022 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE (Post 16213373)
Burns run out 0, bloody awful cricket .

Sold down the river by Crawley unfortunately.

RazorsEdge 15-01-2022 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ANTEAGLE (Post 16213442)
The comeback is on! Centuries for each of these lads. We bowl the Aussies out for 150 meaning we are chasing about 50 and then we get bowled out for 37.

There is a good chance of this happening, however a odds on innings defeat by tomorrow lunch is on too

Ben H 15-01-2022 09:05 AM

What a joke. Once again the bowlers give us a chance only for the batsmen to come up short.

Worksop Palace 15-01-2022 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 16213445)
Sold down the river by Crawley unfortunately.

Pfft :D

Wolfnipplechips 15-01-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 16213476)
Pfft :D

Youíve already pissed people off on here this morning. Nb. Olympianís response to you twenty minutes ago.

What do you get out of it?

How long before you start moaning about being followed? Youíre such a bore.

Worksop Palace 15-01-2022 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 16213491)
Youíve already pissed people off on here this morning. Nb. Olympianís response to you twenty minutes ago.

What do you get out of it?

How long before you start moaning about being followed? Youíre such a bore.

:D

Wolfnipplechips 15-01-2022 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Worksop Palace (Post 16213494)
:D

I canít be bothered today Richard.

Play with yourself. Itís so tedious. Bye.

Worksop Palace 15-01-2022 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 16213495)
I canít be bothered today Richard.

Play with yourself. Itís so tedious. Bye.

:D

KYLIE MINEAGLE 15-01-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolfnipplechips (Post 16213445)
Sold down the river by Crawley unfortunately.

Don't agree. It's Crawleys call, which he does at once. Burns was slow off the mark his attempt to make his ground was as I posted school boy. Makes no odds ,he went and Crawley was'nt far behind. I don't know why they don't just open with Malan save a lot of bother.

Palace Kebab 15-01-2022 09:20 AM

Pope could be decent, but until he leaves better outside off stump he should not be selected

Aki Aki Aki 15-01-2022 09:21 AM

Give it is rest you two, stick to cricket.

Pope is a good young batter, we must stick with him as part of the future along with Captain Sam

RazorsEdge 15-01-2022 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Palace Kebab (Post 16213530)
Pope could be decent, but until he leaves better outside off stump he should not be selected

Yes, he does have potential and I agree

RazorsEdge 15-01-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE (Post 16213528)
Don't agree. It's Crawleys call, which he does at once. Burns was slow off the mark his attempt to make his ground was as I posted school boy. Makes no odds ,he went and Crawley was'nt far behind. I don't know why they don't just open with Malan save a lot of bother.

I would suggest Leach the nightwatchman to open, he can do a better job than any of these openers we have at the moment (it is sad to see a tailender who has better technique than a opener)

Worksop Palace 15-01-2022 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KYLIE MINEAGLE (Post 16213528)
Don't agree. It's Crawleys call, which he does at once. Burns was slow off the mark his attempt to make his ground was as I posted school boy. Makes no odds ,he went and Crawley was'nt far behind. I don't know why they don't just open with Malan save a lot of bother.

Burns sets off slowly and even hesitates. If he does what he should do, he gets home comfortably. Nothing wrong with the call for a single, it was on. Schoolboy running.

Philipw 15-01-2022 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Aki Aki Aki (Post 16213532)
Give it is rest you two, stick to cricket.

Pope is a good young batter, we must stick with him as part of the future along with Captain Sam

Agree with this, he has flaws but his technique generally good and we need to stick with him in the test side and let him make his mistakes and learn. These days there is nowhere else to learn and its not as if he is keeping a good alternative batsmen out

GB2506 15-01-2022 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GB2506 (Post 16210287)
They will still go on to get 325 which will give them a first innings lead of about 100 as we struggle to get 200 again.

Iím not going to be far off

Palace Kebab 15-01-2022 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipw (Post 16213589)
Agree with this, he has flaws but his technique generally good and we need to stick with him in the test side and let him make his mistakes and learn. These days there is nowhere else to learn and its not as if he is keeping a good alternative batsmen out

Fair and now the frustration of him getting out like that again has passed I tend to agree. Same as how we should probably stick with Crawley and Hameed too

GB2506 15-01-2022 09:39 AM

We are going to go a 5 test series and not score 300 in an innings. It’s so bad.

Worksop Palace 15-01-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GB2506 (Post 16213661)
We are going to go a 5 test series and not score 300 in an innings. Itís so bad.

Embarrassing I think is the word youíre looking for. Bad works as well I suppose.

RazorsEdge 15-01-2022 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GB2506 (Post 16213604)
Iím not going to be far off

You are more or less spot on

Aki Aki Aki 15-01-2022 10:30 AM

ECB bloke wants our players to play Sheffield Shield. Fair request in my opinion as it's been very one sided for decades. If the ACB don't agree, stop allowing the Aussie cricketers to spend every summer in England. If we did stop overseas players playing in country cricket, home Test series would certainly be more favourable to England, maybe even to the tune of 5-0 in the Ashes with conditions so unique and alien.


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