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RazorsEdge 21-12-2021 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16162905)
Should be coming any day now! :p

Cheers Jim, nice one :)

Lol

TAK 21-12-2021 03:18 PM

I'm sure once the third test has been lost we'll see an uptick in the English performances, especially the batting.

Once the pressure is off. Seen it happen before.

TBH the Aussie's are not just technically better but mentally stronger than our lot.

art malice 21-12-2021 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by art malice (Post 16157923)
Wonder if anyone will retire halfway through the series like Graeme Swann did?

Yes Bumble!

Olympian2 21-12-2021 05:20 PM

Hard to disagree with much in this Aussie-perspective article…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59741381

Olympian2 21-12-2021 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by art malice (Post 16163828)
Yes Bumble!

Ha! I just saw that. This article says that Gower, Botham & Holding have all recently left Sky. Have they ‘retired’ or gone somewhere else? I’ve never had Sky so am completely clueless.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59741382

RobertCPFC 21-12-2021 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16163926)
Ha! I just saw that. This article says that Gower, Botham & Holding have all recently left Sky. Have they ‘retired’ or gone somewhere else? I’ve never had Sky so am completely clueless.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59741382

Gower and Botham left Sky after the 2019 Ashes. Botham is working for an Australian broadcaster during the current Ashes series. Gower is supposedly going to be on BT during the next test and has done some work in Pakistan. I heard Holding retired a few months ago but I don't think it has been confirmed yet.

crystaljim 21-12-2021 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16163917)
Hard to disagree with much in this Aussie-perspective article…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59741381

Did you read Pontings blast?

It was aimed at Roots blaming of the bowlers for bowling too short.

As a captain, he said if he thought his bowlers were bowling too short, he would tell them to pitch it up more, its up to the captain to manage his bowlers and make these on field decisions.

He also mentioned that when Root left the field to get a groin strain treated and Stokes took over, the bowlers started pitching it up more.
I don't have coverage here in Prague, did anyone watching at the time notice this?

RazorsEdge 21-12-2021 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16163941)
Did you read Pontings blast?

It was aimed at Roots blaming of the bowlers for bowling too short.

As a captain, he said if he thought his bowlers were bowling too short, he would tell them to pitch it up more, its up to the captain to manage his bowlers and make these on field decisions.

He also mentioned that when Root left the field to get a groin strain treated and Stokes took over, the bowlers started pitching it up more.
I don't have coverage here in Prague, did anyone watching at the time notice this?

Come to think of it, they did pitch it up when Root was off.

Worksop Palace 21-12-2021 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RobertCPFC (Post 16163938)
Gower and Botham left Sky after the 2019 Ashes. Botham is working for an Australian broadcaster during the current Ashes series. Gower is supposedly going to be on BT during the next test and has done some work in Pakistan. I heard Holding retired a few months ago but I don't think it has been confirmed yet.

Yes Mikey retired a few months ago.

cpfc4evandeva 21-12-2021 07:20 PM

Do we think Archer will ever play for England again? Apparently he's now out until at least the Summer.

Olympian2 21-12-2021 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16163941)
Did you read Pontings blast?

It was aimed at Roots blaming of the bowlers for bowling too short.

As a captain, he said if he thought his bowlers were bowling too short, he would tell them to pitch it up more, its up to the captain to manage his bowlers and make these on field decisions.

He also mentioned that when Root left the field to get a groin strain treated and Stokes took over, the bowlers started pitching it up more.
I don't have coverage here in Prague, did anyone watching at the time notice this?

Yeah, I saw that. Impossible to know if the bowlers were or were not bowling to a/the plan. Either way, either Root or the bowlers are not covered in glory.

Actually, one could argue that it reflects badly on Root regardless - either the plan was dumb or he couldn't control his bowlers, two of which are massively experienced (both in the top 6 for most Test wickets taken).

I've no doubt that Punter is enjoying stirring the English pot but all it does is highlight the absolute rag-tag shambles that is the English touring party - & they've only played 2/5 Tests so far....

0.bj 21-12-2021 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Olympian2 (Post 16164169)
Yeah, I saw that. Impossible to know if the bowlers were or were not bowling to a/the plan. Either way, either Root or the bowlers are not covered in glory.

Actually, one could argue that it reflects badly on Root regardless - either the plan was dumb or he couldn't control his bowlers, two of which are massively experienced (both in the top 6 for most Test wickets taken).

I've no doubt that Punter is enjoying stirring the English pot but all it does is highlight the absolute rag-tag shambles that is the English touring party - & they've only played 2/5 Tests so far....

Punter’s only stirring in the sense he’s made the comments publically. You know England are in a mess when the Aussie media are damning you with the truth and not just Pigeon’s drunken rants.

KYLIE MINEAGLE 22-12-2021 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva (Post 16164135)
Do we think Archer will ever play for England again? Apparently he's now out until at least the Summer.

The Conner Wickham of the ECB,

Jordan's Jacket 22-12-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva (Post 16164135)
Do we think Archer will ever play for England again? Apparently he's now out until at least the Summer.

I reckon next summer or sometime thereafter

Prince Phillip 22-12-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva (Post 16164135)
Do we think Archer will ever play for England again? Apparently he's now out until at least the Summer.

Life will be a lot easier for him just to pick up the dosh for 24 balls in T20 franchises, that's for sure.

davech 22-12-2021 11:15 AM

Silverwood has said he would pick the same two teams again.

Idiot. We're f*cked. Get rid asap.

GanbareWashi 22-12-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by davech (Post 16165558)
Silverwood has said he would pick the same two teams again.

Idiot. We're f*cked. Get rid asap.

Beggars belief

Jordan's Jacket 22-12-2021 11:33 AM

You would have thought that this bizarre statement would be enough to present him with his P45

CommercialStone 22-12-2021 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cpfc4evandeva (Post 16164135)
Do we think Archer will ever play for England again? Apparently he's now out until at least the Summer.

He will be on the ODI and T20 merry-go-round only before long.

davech 22-12-2021 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crystaljim (Post 16160797)
I guess Player of the match will have to go to Lagershandy. No one else really stood out.

Speaking of the devil.....

Labuschagne has now replaced Joe Root as No.1 in the Test rankings. I suppose congratulaions are in order. If only we could unearth a No.3 like him.


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