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Old 19-03-2023, 12:26 AM
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Iíve watched us play, Iíve been screaming all season that we are overperforming in terms of points relative to performances. But the decision to sack right now is still wrong. He hadnít lost the dressing room and the players should be good enough after 10 years in the PL. I think they just about are.
If PV never lost the dressing room its only because our blokes dont give a crap either way

Agree we overpointed relative to performance at the beginning of the season
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Old 19-03-2023, 12:26 AM
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I haven't "abused" you either - something else you've made up.
I wonder how it feels having so so many people dislike you on here and think of you as nothing but rude, argumentative, and contentious
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Old 19-03-2023, 12:28 AM
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I wonder how it feels having so so many people dislike you on here and think of you as nothing but rude, argumentative, and contentious

I dunno, you tell me how it feels.
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Old 19-03-2023, 12:28 AM
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Quite right. Nearly all of them have been referring to our completely new, refreshing, good to watch possession-based approach to games.

That was last season.
Yeah, if it's not West Ham or the big teams, they ain't interested and will just reiterate out of date rhetoric, based on the fact they are 1) ******* lazy and 2) just don't give a shit about a club like us.
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Old 19-03-2023, 12:29 AM
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I dunno, you tell me how it feels.
Hahahahaha. Outstandingly childish. Genuinely made me laugh. Well done.
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Old 19-03-2023, 12:30 AM
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It's is as clear as bloody day that things weren't right. How can anyone say with any degree of certainty that he hadn't lost the players? Sheesh, there is some hope beyond reality in play here.
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Old 19-03-2023, 12:33 AM
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Hahahahaha. Outstandingly childish. Genuinely made me laugh. Well done.

Glad it perked you up.
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Old 19-03-2023, 12:43 AM
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Anyone saying he lost the players is speculating. The chairman has said the opposite. It’s pretty well established how popular he himself was among the players. It is though quite possible that the rest of the coaches lost the players
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Old 19-03-2023, 12:47 AM
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Lost the players is a bit vague as well.

I think the players may have lost confidence in him but the majority of them appeared to still be trying for him.
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Old 19-03-2023, 12:52 AM
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The chairman has said the opposite.
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Remind me again the industry that our chairman arrived from previously?!
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Old 19-03-2023, 12:57 AM
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Can't remember his name, seemed like a nice fella, but the third coach reminded me of a children's TV presenter. Maybe it was a YouTube video someone posted in here that did it, but it always stuck with me. Every time I saw a round window, I thought of him.
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Old 19-03-2023, 01:13 AM
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Lost the players is a bit vague as well.

I think the players may have lost confidence in him but the majority of them appeared to still be trying for him.
So Pat hadnít lost the players in the dressing room. I agree. Think some were trying to claim the opposite even though all the sources would suggest otherwise.
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Old 19-03-2023, 01:40 AM
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Don’t think Vieira lost the players. I just don’t think the players really had a clue what they were supposed to be doing under him.

That for me is the worst element of Vieira as a manager. Even when managers have poor spells, you can usually identify what it is they’re trying to do, at least. With Vieira, on the ball, I genuinely have no idea what he was trying to achieve.
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Old 19-03-2023, 02:29 AM
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I suspect he was too matey with the players.

And being a nice bloke doesn't usually correlate with being a good football manager when times aren't great.

Schlupp, Ayew and a few others probably thought he was great for obvious reasons.
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Old 19-03-2023, 03:43 AM
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Donít think Vieira lost the players. I just donít think the players really had a clue what they were supposed to be doing under him.

That for me is the worst element of Vieira as a manager. Even when managers have poor spells, you can usually identify what it is theyíre trying to do, at least. With Vieira, on the ball, I genuinely have no idea what he was trying to achieve.
I'm not sure he'll ever be a manager of any significance.
I do wish him the best for the future
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Old 19-03-2023, 05:11 AM
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Don’t think Vieira lost the players. I just don’t think the players really had a clue what they were supposed to be doing under him.

That for me is the worst element of Vieira as a manager. Even when managers have poor spells, you can usually identify what it is they’re trying to do, at least. With Vieira, on the ball, I genuinely have no idea what he was trying to achieve.
Exactly this. I think the players liked him and respected him, but they have gone from having a clear structure to play in to confusion.

I am not sure why, but it is like we were a word that was correctly spelt but ever since then we have the same letters but that now get placed in increasingly random order and rarely form an intelligble word
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Itís actually 3pts off the drop
Our GD advantage has also been eroded

Wham, Leicester and Leeds all have better GD than us now

Only Southampton, Bournemouth and Forest have significantly worse

Also, after today Leeds, Forest, and Leicester will have a game in hand and wham will have 2
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Old 19-03-2023, 07:47 AM
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Vieira really has left us in a perilous position. I feel so much more confident he and his team of jokers are no longer here. Fingers crossed now we can get back to basics and get over the line.
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Vieira really has left us in a perilous position. I feel so much more confident he and his team of jokers are no longer here. Fingers crossed now we can get back to basics and get over the line.
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