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Old 15-08-2022, 08:15 AM
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Neil’s “...a lot of Bitcoin advocates do come across as cultish...” shows an amazing lack of self-awareness, even by BBS standards.
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Admittedly a lot of Bitcoin advocates do come across as cultish. There's a strong counter-culture aspect to Bitcoin scene but the posturing is ironic most of the time. You have to take it with a pinch of salt.

The Bitcoin Mining Council was set up by bitcoin advocates that want a counter narrative to the criticism of bitcoin as harmful to the environment. Your argument that the data is incomplete is also true for any statistics about mining industry. In China miners face up to 10 years in prison and a hefty fine so they are hardly going to volunteer data to any research group. The Bitcoin Mining Council are trying to do the best they can from the available data and at least they are up-front about the difficulties.
But they haven't done that though. They are completely self-policed by the look of things. Not reliable for information, surely? You say yourself it has to be taken with a pinch of salt.

On the point of the mining industry (assuming you are talking about metal and mineral mining at this point, not bitcoin 'mining'), but crypto mining, or at least bitcoin, uses at least twice the energy of gold/other metals. (Admittedly this data is three years old now)

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It's a tricky subject and not one I'm an expert in. Rightly or wrongly, the commodities are needed as we shift towards a green economy (think lithium for batteries etc). Crypto, not so much. Despite reading a fair amount about crypto and trying to understand it (including reading and listening to the information provided), I am yet to see what it (crypto) offers, other than opportunities for criminals, scammers of bogus coins or those who think they can get rich quickly, a hugely volatile 'asset' that isn't linked in any way to economic fundamentals, most of which is not (yet) proven to be anywhere near renewable, although I do get the logic and potential of the underlying blockchain tech in some cases. As I say, good luck to you - not for me!

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Netflix is down 59% YTD
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But Bitcoin is dead… apparently
Same as bitcoin then
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It tells me that The Guardian has an anti-Bitcoin agenda.

That photo's caption is wrong. It does not show a Bitcoin mining facility, it's a photo of a coal-fired power station which is fundamentally misleading. This report also misleads in trying to suggest Ethereum's move to proof of stake is revolutionary yet there are many other shitcoins already using that algorithm , many of which are have been hacked such as Solana a few weeks ago.
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That photo's caption is wrong. It does not show a Bitcoin mining facility, it's a photo of a coal-fired power station which is fundamentally misleading.
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But in 2019, Greenidge began to use the plant to power its Bitcoin mining efforts. As the price of Bitcoin soared since then, the potential profit from mining the cryptocurrency surged, too, and Greenidge increased the plant’s output.

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At the end of 2020, the plant’s carbon dioxide equivalent emissions totaled 243,103 tons, up from 28,301 tons in January, the report said. The plant generated carbon emissions of just 119,304 tons in 2018 and 39,406 tons in 2019, according to the federal documents obtained by Earth Justice.
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The photo still doesn't show a Bitcoin mining facility, it shows a power station. It's mislabelled. They could equally have shown this photo which is more accurate as it actually shows the containers where the bitcoin miners are held:



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Still buying the dip Neil?
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The photo still doesn't show a Bitcoin mining facility, it shows a power station. It's mislabelled. They could equally have shown this photo which is more accurate as it actually shows the containers where the bitcoin miners are held:



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Lovely to know that valuable green electricity is being wasted in a shipping crate so that some criminals and fools can do their thing. Houses nearby are now having to use gas or coal.

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Point of order, you have failed to specify time into the equation. Methane is destroyed within 12 years and CO2 lasts for hundreds of thousands of years

Nevertheless, to suggest that crypto powered by mineral methane is "green" is an outright lie, or massive ignorance.
Hi Spindle. A new White House report published today states "mining operations that capture vented methane to produce electricity can yield positive results for the climate". To view the link you have to Register or Login Are they ignorant or lying?
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Still buying the dip Neil?
The dip will continue into probably early next year. There will then likely be 3 years or so of gradual incline, at some point around 2024/2025 there will be a huge boom. Then the cycle will repeat.

Pointing out bitcoin is low right now to anyone who knows bitcoin is completely irrelevant.

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It would be good if there were a bull market in them at some stage. Hopefully by then there will be funds that we in the U.K. can easily buy into to spread crypto risks. Or do they already exist.
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The dip will continue into probably early next year. There will then likely be 3 years or so of gradual incline, at some point around 2024/2025 there will be a huge boom. Then the cycle will repeat.

Pointing out bitcoin is low right now to anyone who knows bitcoin is completely irrelevant.

Anyone with half a brain can make a lot of money.
Caution. You can be pilloried on this thread for making predictions.
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The dip will continue into probably early next year. There will then likely be 3 years or so of gradual incline, at some point around 2024/2025 there will be a huge boom. Then the cycle will repeat.

Pointing out bitcoin is low right now to anyone who knows bitcoin is completely irrelevant.

Anyone with half a brain can make a lot of money.
The number of investors shorting bitcoin has never been as high as it has been than in the last few months, so agree with you on the last point.


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