Northern Ireland

[CPFC since 1989]

Belongs to England. Discuss.

[Hpalace]

Originally Posted by CPFC since 1989

Belongs to England. Discuss.

The good Friday agreement (Belfast treaty) relinquished ownership decades ago. Apart from that you might have had a point if we were in the 1980s.

[CPFC since 1989]

Originally Posted by Hpalace

The good Friday agreement (Belfast treaty) relinquished ownership decades ago. Apart from that you might have had a point if we were in the 1980s.

Can't Westminster, England not govern if we want? Go in there with the troops. Apaches, air strikes if necessary. Always came across to me that England owns Scotland and Wales too lol

[Pat of the Palace]

What are you, like 12? You're lucky that our glorious leader doesn't post nowadays or he'd rip you a new one.

[dogstar721]

Originally Posted by CPFC since 1989

Belongs to England. Discuss.

England isn't a political entity, with no independent form of governance, as such it cannot own territory, other than as part of the Union, which is a conglomerate of England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales.

Attempts to 'own' Northern Ireland or divest ourselves of North Ireland are incredibly problematic.

[Del Fenner]

The British Government has confirmed that it won’t deliver on it's promise to Sinn Fein to introduce an Irish language act for Northern Ireland at this stage.

The promise by Brandon Lewis last year led to the restoration of the Stormont Assembly following the resignation of Arlene Foster.

[CT_Palace]

Originally Posted by Del Fenner

The British Government has confirmed that it won’t deliver on it's promise.

Well well well...

Such a trustworthy government.

[Johnybegood]

Originally Posted by Del Fenner

The British Government has confirmed that it won’t deliver on it's promise to Sinn Fein to introduce an Irish language act for Northern Ireland at this stage.

The promise by Brandon Lewis last year led to the restoration of the Stormont Assembly following the resignation of Arlene Foster.

It is no surprise but I sense that after the govt threw the DUP under the bus with the protocol, (which they can't back out of without repercussions) they would refuse to power-share after the upcoming elections, where Sinn Fein are likely to get 1st minister.
If the DUP now refuse to power share then Lewis could impose the Irish language Bill from Westminster - so it is more that he is withholding the bill temporarily to beat them with.
The protocol remaining intact and a power sharing executive are priorities but eventually it will all come

[Del Fenner]

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This is a very significant point. Northern Ireland as an entity was constructed with the primary purpose of enabling Unionists to rule over all other factions. So any scenario where they have to submit to any other party is an existential crisis for Unionism, hence the current attempts to bring back bombings, paramilitary actions, violence against nationalists. And the UK government is steadfastly ignoring all threats.

[Adlerhorst]

Season 3 of Derry Girls starts on April 12th

[biggus mickus]

The DUP turn up, register, then bugger off. They are able to collect their wages now, without working. How can that be right?

[Adlerhorst]

Originally Posted by biggus mickus

The DUP turn up, register, then bugger off. They are able to collect their wages now, without working. How can that be right?

The other lot don’t even bother to turn up to the uk Parliament in the first place and still get expenses.

[biggus mickus]

Broken UK.

[mte103]

Guy on question time in audience vehemently explaining that NI is clearly and historically part of 'Great Britain' is a great example of politics in recent times - it doesn't matter that you're wrong, if you believe it enough.

[Johnybegood]

Originally Posted by Adlerhorst

The other lot don’t even bother to turn up to the uk Parliament in the first place and still get expenses.

This was a story that started with a claim that Sinn Fein mps claim salaries from Westminster. Despite being accepted as truth by the right wing press, it wasn't.
It is true that some expenses are claimed as Sinn Fein require representation in discussions e.g. peace process, stormont executive, etc but only for out of pocket expenses. No Sinn Fein MP is paid for any Westminster work.


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[Maiden Eagle]

Originally Posted by biggus mickus

Broken UK.

Yep, this is what Johnson and his mob of Brexit loving 'Little Englanders' have done.

[stevek]

Originally Posted by CPFC since 1989

Belongs to England. Discuss.

Do you similarly think Scotland and Wales 'belong to England'?

[Maz]

Not to mention Cornwall.

[Adlerhorst]

Freedom for Mercia

[JimmyAG]

Originally Posted by Maz

Not to mention Cornwall.

Yes, needs to be rebuilt