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Old 15-07-2021, 09:45 PM
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I assumed Peter was suggesting Mancini was the best manager, based on his club career

Mancini has the most impressive CV, and massively so compared to Southgate
No I get that, and I don't necessarily disagree. However Denmark, for example, did remarkably well with a far inferior choice of players. I'm not saying they're necessarily better, but that the others excelled and are notable.
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Not sure if others are Patreon’s to the FYP pod, but just listening to Adam Sells account of going to Wembley for the final on Sunday. Sounded like absolutely horrific stuff. Can’t believe the lack of policing and stewarding. How could they allow so many English lad wan*ers to run amok like that?

Really shocking to hear a first hand account like that. Can only imagine how scary it was for families and ladies that attended.
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Old 16-07-2021, 10:15 AM
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apparently the met police think they saved the final....delusional or what...
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Old 16-07-2021, 10:35 AM
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apparently the met police think they saved the final....delusional or what...
Where are you getting that from?
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Old 16-07-2021, 11:03 AM
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My armchair analysis of the scenes on TV - it felt like they didn't have enough police there? Which seems a bit of an error in terms of underestimating what sort of trouble the final would attract. Particularly when you see the level of policing at games like Palace v Southampton where the potential for trouble seems pretty small. Perhaps they were just stretched too thin because of the gatherings in Trafalgar Square etc?
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apparently the met police think they saved the final....delusional or what...
Don't know how there were none to be seen by 7pm.
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So a semi final and a final and you want rid Gareth is growing in the job and with the players , he deserves the World Cup next year. We are so close .

Because he’s had two chances and a relatively kind draw in for both. We didn’t win. Winning must always be the objective.

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Because he’s had two chances and a relatively kind draw in for both. We didn’t win. Winning must always be the objective.

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apparently the met police think they saved the final....delusional or what...
Aside from a group of riot police on Wembley Way at about 6:30pm, I didn't see any police.
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Aside from a group of riot police on Wembley Way at about 6:30pm, I didn't see any police.
I also saw none on the videos. They should have been grabbing everyone of them and chucking them in the cells on drunk and disorderly charges.
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Not sure if others are Patreon’s to the FYP pod, but just listening to Adam Sells account of going to Wembley for the final on Sunday. Sounded like absolutely horrific stuff. Can’t believe the lack of policing and stewarding. How could they allow so many English lad wan*ers to run amok like that?

Really shocking to hear a first hand account like that. Can only imagine how scary it was for families and ladies that attended.
Was absolutely out of control on Wembley Way by 3 pm, glass bottles being launched in the air, some fights etc. As we went to go in some lads stormed the barriers and headed for the turnstiles. Loads jibbed in, many sat in the isles or in other people's seats.

Game was okay.

Going home after the match was like being an extra on 'the Purge'. Wembley Central area out of control, people getting hit by cars, hitting each other. Really mad!
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The next tournament, we need a manager to manage.

Penalties must be an opportunity for the manager to direct to each and every squad member what part of the goal they must execute their penalty to.

No low slow 50/50 lottery.

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The next tournament, we need a manager to manage.

Penalties must be an opportunity for the manager to direct to each and every squad member what part of the goal they must execute their penalty to.

No low slow 50/50 lottery.

They must execute only to either of the two parts of the goal the keeper can't reach.

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Caught some of this game again the other day. The 10 or 15 minutes before Italy equalised.

No excuses really. It was like watching Palace playing against one of the top sides and trying to preserve a 0-0. It was identical. We just gave them the freedom of the midfield and soaked up pressure after pressure. Every time we got the ball we just gave it straight back to them.

Our players should have been better than that.

We coud point to how good the Italians were. But pre-tournament you wouldn't have had them as one of the teams to be fearful of. The players weren't household names.

Ultimately the opportunity was lost because of the quality of the managers. Mancini had his players capable of doing that to England. Southgate didn't have an answer to it.

I think that is why there weren't people rioting after the game. Most people could see that there wasn't a hard luck story to be had this time.
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Caught some of this game again the other day. The 10 or 15 minutes before Italy equalised.

No excuses really. It was like watching Palace playing against one of the top sides ...

I think that is why there weren't people rioting after the game. Most people could see that there wasn't a hard luck story to be had this time.
I agree that it was scarily similair to Palace. Maybe a vision of a "Christmas future" when Southgate comes home to manage.

But the riots happened beforehand. By several hours. Wembley way was a right mess beforehand. Groups of people off their heads . Lobbing beer bottles and smokes into the crowd just for fun. Laughing gas cannisters everywhere. And a very few met police just watching.

I have been to many England games and not seen this scale of agressive anarchy home or away.

The authorities were very fortunate that this didnt become a national disaster and instead was more of a national disgrace.
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Yobs will be yobs. They have always been there. Maybe there is more of them, or maybe we expect a nicer world full of inclusiveness.

One difference might be the suggested (on here, at least) prevalance of sniff powder.

I woud like to think that these people would have bought tickets at fair prices if they had been available. I can half understand people being a bit pissed off with the packages at silly prices, and then seeing the likes of Tom Cruise getting tickets. Not sure any of that is 'football's coming home'.

I don't know how you 'learn' these individuals even if you get them in a court room and give them a ridiculously long sentence as a warning to them and others. That would just add in a further sense of bitterness.
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